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Subconscious Perceptions Of Men

"...When associated, on the subconscious level, with the word 'Happy', a blank expressionless face would seem to the observer to smile, to look friendly, amiable, outgoing. When the same face was associated, also on the subconscious level, with the word 'angry', it took on a forbidding expression and seemed to the observer to have become hostile. To a group of young women, it also came to seem very masculine - whereas when it was associated with 'happy', they saw it as belonging to a member of their own sex." - A Brave New World Revisited (Aldous Huxley)

For citation purposes this experiment was carried out in New York University under the auspices of The National Institute for Health. I am unable to find a date, please however keep in mind this experiments goal was not to expose misandry or any other cultural bias, but only to determine whether this sort of subconscious association of images juxtaposed with value-bearing words functioned. Thus we can obviously not state anything empirical about the misandry which the test highlights as it was not the focus of the experiment (lacking an adequate sample, control groups, etc) though of course we can exptrapolate something from a data as it stands; it may be pointing us in a direction where more fruitful study and analysis might be carried out. I would very much like to see this kind of experiment undertaken for that purpose (to determine unconcious misandry) and that purpose alone, the results we may well find interesting.

The book "A Brave New World Revisited" is not about misandry or anything related, I feel I should note this as well. The misandry highlighted seems rather to have been an incidental matter highlighted by data the author was using to support an unrelated assertion however he does comment on it (albeit in facetious tones) 'husbands and fathers; take note,' keep in mind the book was published in 1959 and so it could be said safely before the feminist-inspired culture of misandry came to assert itself on the world at large, an interesting fact in and of itself. We can further presume that the test itself must have been performed even earlier, and thus the young female's associations of anger with the male sex and more positive emotions with the female sex, I stress, are unlikely to be the result of feminist-inspired cultural misandry.


 
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'To a group of young women, it also came to seem very masculine - whereas when it was associated with 'happy', they saw it as belonging to a member of their own sex." - A Brave New World Revisited (Aldous Huxley)'

especially the blanket hate mongering against men and boys by the rabid and hysterical feminits after 40 years non stop


 
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especially the blanket hate mongering against men and boys by the rabid and hysterical feminits after 40 years non stop
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"...the young female's associations of anger with the male sex and more positive emotions with the female sex, I stress, are unlikely to be the result of feminist-inspired cultural misandry."


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OK...perceptions of men.....by most women it seems....

Scene yesterday morning - our local Tesco supermarket. Very, very busy....loads of checkouts all with long queues at them.

Me - finished shopping and waited in the queue, and the woman immediately in front of me (about late 30st early 40s) had a full trolley......she got to the checkout stage and loaded all her stuff onto the conveyor belt...loads of it and at the same time she began to gossip with the operator (also female, about 50s).

The woman had so much stuff that it took ages to off load and she put a lot of stuff on the sides of the belt as there was no room on the belt until it moved on but she was so "busy" yabbering away with the operator that she "forgot" all about her stuff waiting at the sides. I know I could well have put all her stuff on the belt for her but I didn't feel like it as she annoyed me so much with her chatter with the operator so I did nothing but waited. I could tell that even if she had put all the rest of her stuff on the belt she wouldn't have put the divider on it so that I could start loading my stuff - I always do that but i notice very few women do! She was so busy talking to the op woman that she didn't notice all her stuff still standing on the edges. But the operator women did so she barked out at me: "Would you put all the rest of this lady's shopping onto the belt No please or anything, just an aggresive demand and a glaring look to go with it as if it was all my fault that the rest of this woman's stuff was still waiting to go on the belt. The women customer did not even look at me but still carried on putting her paid for stuff into her bags.

That irritated me so much that I said "Sod this for a game of soldiers, who do you think you're ordering about here, madam? No - it's this woman's shopping not mine, so she can do it herself!"

I then took my trolley and shopping to the queue at another till, and didn't give a toss about having to wait all over again. Those two women pissed me off to the limit, and the way I feel about women these days it's a wonder I didn't screw the top off a jar of pickled onions and chuck the contents all over them.

Why do so many women have such negative attitudes towards males, especially younger males. It's so on going and it makes me pig sick. Did that operator think it was my duty to see to that other woman's shopping while all she could do was jabber away about a load of old crap anyway. If I had been a female would she have yelled out to me in the same nasty manner?

On another day recently I saw this woman drop her shoulder bag without noticing it. She just carried on walking. I said "Excuse me - you've dropped your bag!" so I picked it up and gave it to her. "Oh, my bag!" she said, taking it off me, gave me a sort of half smile and carried on walking. Do female to male "thank yous" come with some sort of price tag or something? That cow showed no appreciation, unless that weird smile was it.

I'm so off the female gender right now.....


 
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I suspect many married men have had the experience I had today leaving church. My wife had foot surgery this week and is hobbling about with a surgical boot. Sure enough, some woman we don't know took it on herself to approach us and say to me, "Did you kick her?" You must understand that in the world of soccer moms, this is what passes as wit.

But let's be perfectly candid, anytime a woman suddenly appears in public in any state of physical impairment, whether bruised or otherwise, some misandrists immediately wonder if the husband or boyfriend beat her.

Needless to say, I did not find the woman's comment amusing (because it wasn't) that this amateur comedienne sought to use me as her unwitting straight man -- the butt of her a joke premised on the unfair stereotype of males as domestic abusers.


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I have worked in supermarket but the women I worked around never talked shit to me, because I don't smile much and before they open their say something stupid I keep a clinched fist!


 
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That irritated me so much that I said "Sod this for a game of soldiers, who do you think you're ordering about here, madam? No - it's this woman's shopping not mine, so she can do it herself!"
Your firm response was perfectly fair and, indeed, justifiable. The question of politeness does not bear being mentioned as the woman behind the counter clearly was not interested in being polite; she simply assumed that you, being a man, should feel yourself responsible for aiding nearby women in any physical task; that is a retrograde way to think. You're responsible for nobody save yourself, nor much you account for your actions to anyone save yourself; your reaction was correct although it could be said that it lacked a certain something. When confronted by a situation like this it is often best to engage the offending party; place her items upon the desk, but take a moment as you do so to speak to these wayward girls about their childish behavior. Of course such a lecture is unlikely to change them, but it does feel good to get it off one's chest.

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"Oh, my bag!" she said, taking it off me, gave me a sort of half smile and carried on walking. Do female to male "thank yous" come with some sort of price tag or something? That cow showed no appreciation, unless that weird smile was it.
Often when one does something like this for a young woman she is too shy to thank him properly; hence the awkward smile. This is, of course, no excuse on her part; if she cannot 'put herself out' to thank him, why would he have 'put himself out' to help her? Still, often a little encouragement is needed. Remind her that although a gentleman does not do these things for thanks, but rather as a product of his simply being a gentleman that her parents at some point must have taught her the appropriate magic words for such an occasion; ask her to repeat them for you now.

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I suspect many married men have had the experience I had today leaving church. My wife had foot surgery this week and is hobbling about with a surgical boot. Sure enough, some woman we don't know took it on herself to approach us and say to me, "Did you kick her?"
This is just terrible. How does one react to such a casual example of hateful suspicion, of mean and spiteful accusations? There must be an effective method of turning it around on the accuser of making them feel like they made you feel; a method by which one can cause them to realize the audacity of their immoral sentiment.


 
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I suspect many married men have had the experience I had today leaving church. My wife had foot surgery this week and is hobbling about with a surgical boot. Sure enough, some woman we don't know took it on herself to approach us and say to me, "Did you kick her?" You must understand that in the world of soccer moms, this is what passes as wit.

...the unfair stereotype of males as domestic abusers.
My wife annoys me with sth similiar. She has very bright skin and somehow get small bruises very easily. When I massage her as a means to avoid stretch marks and loudly wonder where she got those bruises from she usually says sth like "thats where you hit me". I am always complaining that this isnīt even funny ans she shouldnīt say sth like that. But somehow I guess she likes to pick on me with said behaviour. Damn educating your wife isnīt easy.


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My wife annoys me with sth similiar. She has very bright skin and somehow get small bruises very easily. When I massage her as a means to avoid stretch marks and loudly wonder where she got those bruises from she usually says sth like "thats where you hit me". I am always complaining that this isnīt even funny ans she shouldnīt say sth like that. But somehow I guess she likes to pick on me with said behaviour. Damn educating your wife isnīt easy.
That's scary man.


 
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My wife annoys me with sth similiar. She has very bright skin and somehow get small bruises very easily. When I massage her as a means to avoid stretch marks and loudly wonder where she got those bruises from she usually says sth like "thats where you hit me". I am