Quote from Popadibs

I hate to say it but since I heard it from a video game it must be true.

"The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long."

The better of a government, country, society, etc. that we build the sooner that government, country, society, etc. will fail to be sustained.

Eventually people that come afterwards will take that society for granted and they will sooner or later destroy the very fabrics of the cloth that holds the under garments of our society together.

When this happens those that ruin the society will be left naked with no one to provide it for them and it will crumble because they cared not to keep it.

Similar may have very well happened to the empires of Rome, what's those people called? you know? watchacallits? Oompa Loompas? no wait the Mayans, yeah them, and well, america is no different.

If we don't preserve the fabrics that held the under garments of our society together then we will too be left naked and exposed and it will not be a pretty sight. If something truly matters we must do whatever is necessary to keep it (within reasonable measures depending on what "it" is). With all of this being said I feel that the people sometimes act as skidmarks on the underpants of society and no one wants underpants with skidmarks on them.

Don't worry, it will get worse as it was predestined.
3 years from now, we won't be using cash any more.
America will become Amerika the spitting image of Rome.
You will join the world government or die in the FEMA camps!

Quote from RebelliousVanilla

They leave because you have retarded immigration laws. And if the government weren't be in the student loan business, schools would be forced to lower tuition and raise the number of students it has. If I do come there for a masters, I have absolutely no intention of staying if I have to wait for 7 years to get a greencard and 15 years combined to become a citizen. That's almost as much as I lived on Earth until now and it will be time in which I will pay taxes without getting any of the services I pay for. So really, why would I be interested in staying?

I agree. I think medical insurance is a scam too. Insurance, IMO, makes the cost of health care go up. If we all paid out of pocket, medical costs would have to be affordable. Hospitals can afford to charge exhorbitant fees as most people have insurance and contribute $$$$$ that they will never use "just in case" something happens. It's akin to gentlemanly extortion.

So how do you subsidize the education of foreigners? They pay twice the tuition you pay, they can't get most of your scholarships and so on(if they stay though, they will pay tax money for those exact scholarships)... lol. Education should be private anyway.

Well, if you came illegally, some states would let you get away with paying in-state tuition! Crime does pay!

If we are into protectionism, let's ban all imports and exports. That would be cool. And stop lending money to the US at all. That would be neat. All this stupid shit was proven to hurt more than do good.

Yes, I wish foreign govt's would stop lending us $$$$$. The sooner every collapses, the sooner we can fix everything.

AKUUS, I kept writing both on my blog and here on my single payer thread that the insurance business pushes prices to go up. And insurance is actually prepaid healthcare, since insurance covers a risk, not day to day things. Also, in a lot of states companies of a certain size have to get insurance by law, which makes a guaranteed pool of insured people.

And I abhor illegal immigration. I got bashed for saying that I'd put snipers on the southern border if I would be the US president and that I'd deport everyone and not give legal status to parents who just have a child born in the US, among other things. I'd also deport all the illegals, especially if they use healthcare without paying or commit crimes. Let alone pay their tuition. I find this despicable.

Quote from RebelliousVanilla

AKUUS, I kept writing both on my blog and here on my single payer thread that the insurance business pushes prices to go up. And insurance is actually prepaid healthcare, since insurance covers a risk, not day to day things. Also, in a lot of states companies of a certain size have to get insurance by law, which makes a guaranteed pool of insured people.

And I abhor illegal immigration. I got bashed for saying that I'd put snipers on the southern border if I would be the US president and that I'd deport everyone and not give legal status to parents who just have a child born in the US, among other things. I'd also deport all the illegals, especially if they use healthcare without paying or commit crimes. Let alone pay their tuition. I find this despicable.

So young, so smart!!! In my state, having health insurance is not required by law. You get fined in your taxes if you don't have any. The assumption is that if you don't and you get sick, others will have to pick up the tab. If the gubment is so worried about picking up the tab for uninsured, they should round up all the invaders, put parachutes on them, fly them over their countries, and shove them out!!! The could be the 101 Wetback Airborne Division!

Your ideas about illegals are 100% correct. Those who love the invaders don't care that illegals kill, on average, 25 Americans per day through outright murder and drunk driving. Do the math!!! That's thousands and thousands!

Quote from AKUUS

So young, so smart!!! In my state, having health insurance is not required by law. You get fined in your taxes if you don't have any. The assumption is that if you don't and you get sick, others will have to pick up the tab. If the gubment is so worried about picking up the tab for uninsured, they should round up all the invaders, put parachutes on them, fly them over their countries, and shove them out!!! The could be the 101 Wetback Airborne Division!

Your ideas about illegals are 100% correct. Those who love the invaders don't care that illegals kill, on average, 25 Americans per day through outright murder and drunk driving. Do the math!!! That's thousands and thousands!

I'm disgusted by the idea that if I would be a dictator in the US, I would do a way better job than all the Congressmen, Senators and President combined. And it isn't because I'm superhuman, it is because they're morons who don't give a ****(happy, Percy? :P) about people and their constituents. But again, if I'd be a dictator there, I'd try all the living Presidents of the US for high treason because they didn't obey their oath to protect the Constitution, so heh.

Quote from RebelliousVanilla

I'm disgusted by the idea that if I would be a dictator in the US, I would do a way better job than all the Congressmen, Senators and President combined. And it isn't because I'm superhuman, it is because they're morons who don't give a ****(happy, Percy? :P) about people and their constituents. But again, if I'd be a dictator there, I'd try all the living Presidents of the US for high treason because they didn't obey their oath to protect the Constitution, so heh.

If you became a dictator it would corrupt you.

Quote from Popadibs

If you became a dictator it would corrupt you.

No, it wouldn't because I am a goddess.

Quote from RebelliousVanilla

No, it wouldn't because I am a goddess.

If you are a goddess then I'm an athiest.

look, border jumper enabling has a WHOLE LOT to do with the economic mess we are in
so does NAFTA
see, the problem is, that mexico is so fucked up, its not just julio the lettuce picker comin over here; pedro the carpenter, Jorge the 18 wheeler driver, antonio the bricklayer, and chico the landscaper have come over for greener pastures(and not to get extorted or killed by corrupt cops or drug cartels). and these people send their money to mexico instead of spending most of it here

Quote from Aug9th-LiveOrDie

look, border jumper enabling has a WHOLE LOT to do with the economic mess we are in
so does NAFTA
see, the problem is, that mexico is so fucked up, its not just julio the lettuce picker comin over here; pedro the carpenter, Jorge the 18 wheeler driver, antonio the bricklayer, and chico the landscaper have come over for greener pastures(and not to get extorted or killed by corrupt cops or drug cartels). and these people send their money to mexico instead of spending most of it here

Actually no, this economic mess was created by the government through moral hazard and awful monetary policy. Cheap money lead to malinvestment, which was exacerbated by the flawed policies of the bureaucrats. This crisis is the payback for the Internet bubble. And it will just get worse with what Obama is doing and plans to do.

Quote from RebelliousVanilla

Actually no, this economic mess was created by the government through moral hazard and awful monetary policy. Cheap money lead to malinvestment, which was exacerbated by the flawed policies of the bureaucrats. This crisis is the payback for the Internet bubble. And it will just get worse with what Obama is doing and plans to do.

no, the burden places on social services because of illegal immigration, combined with the amount of money not being spent in the US, plus outsourcing, PLUS the new waves of skilled and semi skilled illegal aliens coming over, has affected the economy in border states greatly
wage scales for food service, construction labor, light manufacturing and warehousing, and outdoor work have plummeted, in a large part because of the deluge of border jumpers

Quote from Aug9th-LiveOrDie

no, the burden places on social services because of illegal immigration, combined with the amount of money not being spent in the US, plus outsourcing, PLUS the new waves of skilled and semi skilled illegal aliens coming over, has affected the economy in border states greatly
wage scales for food service, construction labor, light manufacturing and warehousing, and outdoor work have plummeted, in a large part because of the deluge of border jumpers

Yes, the whole US economy and house market collapsed because of border jumpers.

Prices for services going down is a good thing.

Quote from RebelliousVanilla

Yes, the whole US economy and house market collapsed because of border jumpers.

Prices for services going down is a good thing.

I didnt say that the entire US economy collapsed because of border jumpers but they played a part, just ask california
the bullshit free trade agreements have taken the economy down the shitter too
plus there are too many imports