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5th-November-2009 #1
something i needed for a change --good news!!!
although i thought this should be in priority news-i am not allowed to post there(guess its for the exceptional few)
this is really good news for hunters farmers and all men at the mercy of the fat old SOW(status of wymen)
MPs vote to abolish long-gun registry
Last Updated: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 | 10:27 PM ET Comments1138Recommend191
CBC News
A man replaces a shotgun in the rack in a downtown Montreal outdoors store in this file photo. MPs gave second reading Wednesday to a bill that would abolish the registry for long guns. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press) The federal long-gun registry moved one step closer to being abolished as MPs voted Wednesday in the House of Commons to scrap the controversial program.
With support from 18 Liberals and New Democrats, the private member's bill passed second reading 164-137, and now goes to committee.
If passed, Bill C-391 would scrap the decade-old registry and destroy existing data within the system on about seven million shotguns and rifles.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper rises along with Environment Minister Jim Prentice and Defence Minister Peter MacKay to vote in favour of the bill to abolish the long-gun registry in the House of Commons. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press) The legislation was proposed by Manitoba Tory backbencher Candice Hoeppner.
Because the proposed law was introduced as a private member's bill, opposition MPs were permitted to break from party lines and support it.
That secured support from New Democrats and Liberals from northern and rural ridings, where opposition to the gun registry is strongest.
The Conservatives have long opposed the gun registry, brought in by the former Liberal government in response to the killing of 14 women at Montreal's L'École Polytéchnique in 1989.
However, there is also unwavering support for the gun registry from such groups as the Coalition for Gun Control, the Canadian Chiefs of Police and the Canadian Police Association.
Wendy Cukier of the Coalition for Gun Control said firearm deaths such as suicides and murders of women have declined during the time the registry has been in place. The mother of one of the slain Montreal students made a public appeal this week, imploring MPs to preserve the gun registry.
Conservatives argue the registry has been a billion-dollar boondoggle, although a 2006 study by the auditor general found eliminating the long-gun portion of the registry would only save taxpayers about $3 million a year.
In an annual report from Canada's Firearms Commissioner prepared by the RCMP, police said they used the registry more than 2.5 million times in 2007.
With files from The Canadian Press
CBC News - Politics - MPs vote to abolish long-gun registry
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5th-November-2009 #2
Re: something i needed for a change --good news!!!
CANADA RULES
canada is AWESOME
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5th-November-2009 #3
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Good for Canada.
What are the flowers on the MPs jackets for Outdoors?Ignorance is the Oppressor, Vigilance the Liberator.
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5th-November-2009 #5
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All British M.P.'s and many other people will be wearing poppies at this time of year, they are sold to raise money for ex-servicemen and their families. I had assumed poppies would be seen throughout the commonwealth, do you not have them in New Zealand?
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5th-November-2009 #6
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Ooooo Kaaaay.
Oh, the irony.
I did PD once for my fines because you get paid more for PD than working. (hope you get that)I dont see what folk need guns for. Oddly enough, it seems its only problem to the authorities when WOMEN get killed..
I would hazard a guess that most gun deaths are male..
Anyhow there was this guy who worked with medicine in the laboratories. It was his job to watch over something important and he travelled all over the place from lab to lab. He and his mate went out hunting and his mate went one way and he went the other.
Then they saw each other and he mistook his mate for a deer and shot him in the throat. A good shot but not a good thing to do.
He was in the courthouse with his family and the family of his mate and they were all holding hands and hugging each other while the judge gave the sentence. He got PD. And....
He loved it.
He had never done a hard days work in his life.
My job was to make bake beans and spaghetti on toast for the guys who worked and I found it absolutely fascinating. The stories that you hear are incredible even from the wardens who watch over you. A well spent Saturday. IMO
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At one stage the police would get the Pd people to burn all the dope they found in the bush.
It was stopped after a while because everyone was getting stoned.
They were huge bonfires.
Ignorance is the Oppressor, Vigilance the Liberator.
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5th-November-2009 #7
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Haahoo,
Maybe this got lost on you somewhere along the line.
Canada has had a regime of registering firearms since the early 1980's.
It has not stopped your common criminal from getting access to them firearms, as only the law-abiding actually follow the system.
Criminals can get any fire-arm they like, they steal them from the law abiding citizen's gun safe while another criminal beats and ties up his victims, in thier own home.
Haahoo, I own firearms here and the police say, make sure you lock them all up nice and safe, take them to bits and store each bit in a different part of the house.
Yeah OK, who is kidding who here.
If someone comes to my house looking for firearms, there is no way in hell I am going to be under their mercy until I assemble one of of my rifles or shotguns to have it used against me or my partner, let's be real here.
Firearms registration never worked then, it doesn't work now, because only the honest will comply.
Even in NZ here, we've had amnesty after amnesty, do you seriously think that any criminal is going to bring his sawn-off shotties, base-ball bats, chains and the like into the cop-shop because there is a bloody amnesty on?.
I mean, that would have to be a pretty kick-arse cup of tea and cup-cake to get them in there in the first place.
Good frigging Lord!
BTW, I own fire-arms to hunt deer, goats, rabbits with, all of which are pests here in New Zealand.Last edited by MikeT; 5th-November-2009 at 09:36 AM. Reason: Typo's
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Aye, no doubt..
But there is a strong correlation between the levels of gun ownership in a country and the death rates from guns.
Most people have no need of guns.
Unless they fear folk with guns of course.
I would imagine that many criminals get their guns by stealing them off folk who legally own them..
http://www.allbusiness.com/finance-i.../523667-1.html
Guns reduce the average lifespan of the US citizen by a substantial amount according to those stats..
Men of course being the main victims..
I show that firearm violence shortens the life of an average American by 104 days (151 days for white males, 362 days for black males). Among all fatal injuries, only motor vehicle accidents have a stronger effect. I estimate that the elimination of all firearm deaths in the United States would increase the male life expectancy more than the total eradication of all colon and prostate cancers.
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5th-November-2009 #9
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Now, now haahoo, that's a bit naughty.
The poppies are to mark Armistice Day- the end of the First World War.
On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month the war dead are remembered by two minutes silence and the sounding of the last post. "Official" ceremonies take place on the following Sunday.
Poppies are significant because of the millions of men who died in the fields of Belgium.
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Re: something i needed for a change --good news!!!
Yes, that is correct of course..
Wars still continue to happen though, sadly..
Of course, there are no longer any folk around who remember the first world war..
They have all died..
My old man used to say that armistice day glorified warfare and encourage folk to join up in the state armies to be lined up as cannon fodder for whatever war the elites wanted to wage next..
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5th-November-2009 #11
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the targets of this gun registry is men-this is an end result of the lepine massacre in montreal-it makes ciminals out of law abiding gun owners-because feminists say so-it has done nothing to curb the violence against women-it has cost 2 billion from the onset.
i hunt-therefore i own guns---as a lot of Canadians do..as a matter of fact i am going hunting here right away for a trophy whitetail deer.
This gun registry was a failure from the get go-just like feminism
so this is a big victory from the biggest form of systemic descrimination since ww11 and it is a victory for men on the war on men.
julie-the poppies are a symbolic gesture for all the MEN that gave their lives in battle of ww1-the following was written by a Canadian soldier and most canadians know of it;
In Flander's Fields
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flander's fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, tho poppies grow
In Flander's fields.
Liet. -Col. John McCrae
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5th-November-2009 #12
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btw-this hasn't passed for sure yet--it will have to go thru one more final reading--i am sure the status of wymen will now declare a state of emergency and start pressuring politicions with our own tax dollars.
just like they did when there was a threat of a funding cut to battered women safe houses.
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5th-November-2009 #13
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haahoo-most criminal(illegal) guns are brought in by smugglers-from the states
u cannot steal an uzi or an ak 47 when no one here has one to steal-unless u rob a criminal
they are highly illegal-u still cannot just go out and just buy a gun-u have to take the appropriate courses and get the proper criminal records check-this registry is nothing but a piece of paper that tells u this gun cannot be used to kill anyone,aka women
ya ..ok...
the criminals were the first in line to register their guns{sarcasm}
this is a long gun registry(hunting) and not a pistol,uzi type(criminal)
which paints law abiding citizens in the same light as criminals
and this is why people are so upset about this infringement of privacy-the data base for the registry has already been hacked numerous times which tells the CRIMINALS who,what and where to get guns
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5th-November-2009 #14
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Last edited by julie; 5th-November-2009 at 03:01 PM.
Ignorance is the Oppressor, Vigilance the Liberator.
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5th-November-2009 #15
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Three weeks ago I was standing in the Canadian memorial garden on the ridge at Passchendaele, looking across the gentle slope of fields down to Ypres, it is scarcely a ridge, it was chilling to think of the 16,000 men who had perished there.
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