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    Sexist advice?


    I've just been reading through a PDF file about violence against women, titled "What men can do".

    This is one of the pieces of advice given:

    If a woman is walking in front of you along a dark street, give her a lot of room or cross to the other side of the road.
    Personally, I believe both males and females should be advised to give a lot of room, or cross over the road (if possible), should they find themselves walking behind a lone person late at night.

    In my opinion, issuing this advice to males only, is not only sexist - it's potentially dangerous too.

    This kind of advice reinforces the idea that only women need to be concerned about their safety at night, and is likely to breed complacency within men.

    However in reality, it is men, not women who are statistically more likely to fall victim to violent crime whilst out late at night.

    Also, on a similar topic, here is an excerpt from an article about Reclaim the Night on a feminist website:

    Furthermore, as a worker in a local rape crisis centre, I am squeamish about some of the implications of Reclaim the Night. How useful is it to demand women’s right to walk along dark streets late at night, when attacks by strangers account for less than 10% of rapes? Is this really the best fight for young feminists?

    A woman is overwhelmingly more likely to be raped in her own home by someone she has either invited in, or already lives with, than she is by the stranger in the park. That’s not to say that this doesn’t happen, or that it isn’t horrendous for women when it does, but there is a real possibility that Reclaim the Night marches, with their focus on safe streets for women, will play into the very ‘rape myths’ which we need to undermine.
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    Re: Sexist advice?

    A woman is overwhelmingly more likely to be raped in her own home
    A woman is not overwhelmingly likely let alone more likely to be raped at home, or anywhere for that matter.

    Rape is a rare crime.

    It is only by counting in a host of other activities as rape that are NOT rape that the numbers reach any sort of problematic level.

    But hey, the idea is to frighten the ladies, isn't it.
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    Rape is a rare crime. And I agree that rape occurs (as does murder) with greater frequently by someone you know rather than a total stranger. I'm not sure if that holds true in the same way for men as it does for women.

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    Re: Sexist advice?

    Does rape REALLY occur more frequently, between two people who know each other? Things just don't add up; surely a rapist is less likely to rape someone he knows, as this means he's less likely to get away with it? Or is date-rape really that common? Sounds to me like more feministic bullshit designed to make women weary of even men they know well.

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    "If a woman is walking in front of you along a dark street, give her a lot of room or cross to the other side of the road".

    I don't agree with this, hanging back or slinking off to the other side of the road could make it look like your stalking.

    I always just keep on walking ... if this cuases fear so what, i have every right to be walking down the street without worrying that someone might be afraid of me.

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    Actually, when I was younger - don't say I haven't warned you folks that I used to be profeminist - I DID do as this suggests. I would observe a woman in front, and either walk slower so she could move ahead, or I'd cross the street to avoid her.

    At that time, I thought was being a good boy™.

    I didnt' do that because someone told me to, or because a book suggested it - I just would place women above myself (and other men) to that level because I thought it was what was expected of me.

    Do I do so now?

    No.

    Why should I? Should she walk away from me to make me feel more secure that she is now less likely to accuse me (falsely) of rape?

    Now that I've matured, I see the stupidity and sexism of that behaviour.

    It is sexist to men, myself and to women. It assumes all women are petrified of strangers.
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    Not many people walk alone on a dark street by themselves...but if they did, it would make sense to use a little caution. Sure, chances are you're not going to be the target of a crime, but hell, you never know if you're about to be part of that unlikely small percentage that is.

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    Intimate Partner Violence in the U.S.
    Victim Characteristics

    Gender | Age | Marital status | Race | Hispanic origin | Income | Home ownership | Children exposed to intimate partner violence
    Gender

    Females are more likely than males to experience nonfatal intimate partner violence.
    On average between 2001 and 2005, nonfatal intimate partner victimizations represented —

    • 22% of nonfatal violent victimizations against females age 12 or older
    • 4% of nonfatal violent victimizations against males age 12 or older.

    Victim/offender relationship in nonfatal violent victimizations, by victim and gender, 2001-2005

    Average annual rate per 1,000 persons age 12 or older

    Female Male
    Victim/offender relationship Rate Percent Rate Percent 100 % 100 % Intimate 4.2 21.5
    0.9 3.6 Other relative 1.7 8.9
    1.2 4.6 Friend/acquaintance 7.0 36.2
    8.6 34.3 Stranger 6.5 33.4
    14.4 57.4 For homicides, intimate partners committed —

    • 30% of homicides of females.
    • 5% of homicides of males.

    Homicide victim/offender relationship by victim gender, 1976-2005

    Percent of homicide victims
    by gender Victim/offender relationship Female Male Total 100 % 100 % Intimate 30.1 5.3 Other family 11.7 6.7 Acquaintance/Known 21.8 35.5 Stranger 8.8 15.5 Undetermined 27.7 37.1
    Trends for nonfatal intimate partner victimization differ by gender.
    The rate of nonfatal intimate partner victimization for —

    • females was about 4 victimizations per 1,000 persons age 12 or older in 2005, down from about 10 in 1993.
    • males remained stable between 2004 and 2005.

    To view data, click on the chart.
    [D] Homicides of intimates have declined, especially among male victims.
    [D] See Intimate homicide in Homicide Trends in the United States.
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    Age

    For females of most age categories, nonfatal intimate partner victimization declined over time.

    • In general, females ages 12 to 15 and age 50 or older were at the lowest risk of nonfatal intimate partner violence.
    • During 2005, females ages 35 to 49 were at a greater risk of nonfatal intimate partner violence than older females.

    To view data, click on the chart.
    [D] With the exception of males and females age 65 or older, average annual rates from 2001 through 2005 for nonfatal intimate partner victimization were higher for females than males within each age category.

    • Females ages 20 to 24 were at the greatest risk of nonfatal intimate partner violence.
    • In general, males ages 12 to 15 and age 65 or older experienced the lowest rates of nonfatal intimate partner violence.

    To view data, click on the chart.
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    Marital Status

    Rates of nonfatal intimate partner violence for females who were married, divorced, separated, or never married were lower in 2005 than in 1993.

    Females who were —

    • separated reported higher rates than females of other marital status
    • married reported the lowest rates of nonfatal intimate partner violence.

    To view data, click on the chart.
    [D] On average from 2001 to 2005, both females and males who were separated or divorced had the greatest risk of nonfatal intimate partner violence while persons who were married or widowed reported the lowest risk of violence.
    To view data, click on the chart.
    [D] Most intimate homicides involved spouses, although in recent years the number of deaths by boyfriends and girlfriends was about the same.
    [D] See Intimate homicide in Homicide Trends in the U.S.
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    Re: Sexist advice?

    Late at night a few weeks ago, I was walking down a street on my route home, when a woman came out of a house and began walking down the same path - just a few feet ahead of me. In this street on the right-hand side (which I was on) is a very long row of houses, and on the left-hand side is just grass and bushes.

    Because the path is so narrow, it wasn’t a viable option to step on the accelerator and overtake her, so I found myself in a rather awkward situation. Hence, I instinctively decided to cross over and walk on the other side of the road.

    Had it been a bloke walking in front of me, I am sure I would have acted the same - being a fast walker, I hate being stuck behind people walking at a slow pace.
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    Re: Sexist advice?

    Quote Quote from TERA View Post
    Not many people walk alone on a dark street by themselves...but if they did, it would make sense to use a little caution. Sure, chances are you're not going to be the target of a crime, but hell, you never know if you're about to be part of that unlikely small percentage that is.

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    ""A woman is overwhelmingly more likely to be raped in her own home""

    how about the refugee wimin put on by the dykes running the wimmins refuges

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    Quote Quote from TERA View Post
    Not many people walk alone on a dark street by themselves...but if they did, it would make sense to use a little caution. Sure, chances are you're not going to be the target of a crime, but hell, you never know if you're about to be part of that unlikely small percentage that is.
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    Re: Sexist advice?

    How about as a society, we "reclaim" a modicum of common sense regarding damaging feminist rape myths? This begins with allowing neutral 'vetted' groups to promulgate the truth about rape, not those feminists with a biased ideology to promote.
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    Quote Quote from Statistics
    Females are more likely than males to experience nonfatal intimate partner violence.
    On average between 2001 and 2005, nonfatal intimate partner victimizations represented —

    • 22% of nonfatal violent victimizations against females age 12 or older
    • 4% of nonfatal violent victimizations against males age 12 or older.
    Those statistics don't confirm the first statement; the 4% against males could be greater than is the 22% against females.


 

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