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You’ve all heard the statistic: one out of every four women will be raped in her lifetime.

I’ve always had some doubts about this so-called “fact,” so I did a little research. Turns out, the statistic is wrong. In fact, according to a United Nations global crime report, there were 95,000 reported rapes in the United States in 2002.

I’m not sure how to manipulate the numbers to make a “one in four” statistic, but according to my math, 95,000 cases of rape out of a female population of about 150 million in the United States is less than 1 percent.

Even if you consider that 60 percent of rape cases go unreported and that 50 percent of rape charges are later reported to be false accusations by the accuser, the number is still less than 1 percent. The figure gets even smaller if you consider the numbers on a global scale.

This statistic, which comes from the American Association of University Women, is wildly off the mark. This distortion of the facts is the difference between 95,000 rapes and 37.5 million rapes in the U.S. alone. How could this happen?

In essence, several radical women’s advocacy groups represent the extremist side of the feminist movement. They’re loud, they’re vocal and they’ve acquired the public’s attention through startling and often falsified reports.

As an example, “radical” feminists Gloria Steinem and Naomi Wolf once (separately) made claims that 150,000 American women die from anorexia each year, citing the American Anorexia and Bulimia Association.

However, when this claim was investigated, the president of the AABA said that these figures were wrong. In fact, according to AABA studies, about 60 to 100 women die every year due to anorexia. No harm done, right? I wish.

These false numbers and many more have permeated society and are now accepted as fact. They appear in public ads and college textbooks. If you point out that these numbers aren’t accurate, radical feminists are quick to declare you sexist with an anti-feminist agenda.
The rest is here.

But she's still proud to be a feminist. Oh well.



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Re: Radical feminists, try a new view

Yeah, I just heard a radio ad for Amnesty Int'l regurgitating the "one in three women are victims of abuse" factoid

http://www.amnesty.ca/

I liked Karl's old sig, where he said people prefer lies to the truth, I'm afraid it always has been and always will be true



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I have no doubt that special interest groups exaggerate statistics to favor their cause. But as one reader pointed out, the author did some funny math of his/her own.


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For those with a literary and intellectual bent, the latest edition of the 'Quadrant' journal (May 2007), an Australian publication, has an account of the Origins of Amnesty International written by Claudio Veliz who was in at the very start. It was a Communist front organisation set up to get Communist prisoners out of Spanish jails after the Franco war. They used the fact that there were a few Freemasons in jail too that enabled the newly minted AI to appear to represent all comers but the Comintern backers were only interested in their own.

It is not surprising that Amnesty International backs feminism.


 
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Not wrong Percy!

As we read and learn we might wonder what the do-gooders, including international aid agencies are all about.

Here in SE Asia I looked into possible grants for native tribes to further their development. The 'Canada Fund' in particular was strong on "the special position of women". No surprises there.



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"the special position of women"
*poof* - there flies equality....


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Re: Radical feminists, try a new view

They said that one in four women is raped in her lifetime, not one if four women every year. If 95,000 raped occurred in one year and you take the feminist statistic of 60% going unreported then there are actually 237,500 rapes per year. So over a ten year period 2,375,000 women are raped (Of course the maths is already faulty as the same woman can be raped more than once but then remember those who come up with this are women) so over the average woman's lifespan of about 75 (I think its that) 17,812,500 women get raped. You will note this is still only 11.875%, well under the vaunted one in four. (yes i know the first and last years of life can be safely discounted but do you really think whoever came up with 1 in 4 was going to give up the extra rapes?)

Well, I'm sorry guys, I did my best but my mathematics just isn't up to the same standard as the feminists. If anyone knows where we can get an extra 13.125% to make up the numbers then we will have cracked this sucker!


 
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There is that situation on a date when she says "No, stop it" and he says "C'mon baby" and then they have sex, I think that's counted as a rape to make the 1/4 statistic.


 
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I have been a rapist most of my life, but I am handsome and always apologise afterwards so they let me off and consider it "passionate love"..

And on the other hand, you can always just kill them if you suspect they are going to complain..

Often, the women forget what happened, usually the case after you put their head under the wheel of your 4 litre SUV and drive over it..

Lets face it lads, its like, no fun if they actually WANT sex is it?

If they are giving it away easy, it aint worth much is it?

Standard economics!!


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There is that situation on a date when she says "No, stop it" and he says "C'mon baby" and then they have sex, I think that's counted as a rape to make the 1/4 statistic.
So, not an actual rape then.. he didn't force himself, he didn't drug her up, he didn't beat her senseless... he did what women are good at; he nagged.








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