Sure, I am pround to be an American. I am also proud to be tall, white, male, from Texas, and any number of other things over which I was born into with no control whatsoever.

Actually, I am just being sarcastic, but of that I really am proud.

I don't get people who are proud of things that they have nothing to do with. It's actually pretty silly. Pride should be saved for what you do, what you accomplish in life. Citizenship, gender, race and the like are just luck, either bad or good depending on how you look at it, and taking pride in any of it usually says to me you don't have any real accomplishments to take pride in.

But am I grateful to be an American? Yep. I could have been from Somalia. Besides, who else but Americans get to watch much of the rest of the world look down their noses at us.....while trying to move here.

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Sure, I am pround to be an American. I am also proud to be tall, white, male, from Texas, and any number of other things over which I was born into with no control whatsoever.

Actually, I am just being sarcastic, but of that I really am proud.

I don't get people who are proud of things that they have nothing to do with. It's actually pretty silly. Pride should be saved for what you do, what you accomplish in life. Citizenship, gender, race and the like are just luck, either bad or good depending on how you look at it, and taking pride in any of it usually says to me you don't have any real accomplishments to take pride in.

But am I grateful to be an American? Yep. I could have been from Somalia. Besides, who else but Americans get to watch much of the rest of the world look down their noses at us.....while trying to move here.

By the Lord Harry, Sir, you could be taken for an Englishman !

I, too, don't understand feelings of pride towards one's nationality; after all, noone can CHOOSE where they're born. People shouldn't be afforded a sense of pride over something they did nothing to achieve.

I think people take far too much PERSONAL pride in their heritage. Acknowledging the positives and the negatives of one's heritage is fine as far as it goes, but hubris tends to take over. Taking the less savoury parts that happened to one's forebears - other people, long dead - to enable 'victimhood' is generally 'used' to claim priviledge that is unearned.

Similarly taking all the good parts of past people's lives and accomplishments and claiming them for oneself is also false and hubristic. Even taking accomplishments from any other person and claiming some sort of superiority for oneself by association (say, by gender) is false.

Being born English is good fortune for which most older Englishmen are grateful. I can understand Americans being grateful for being born under the US Flag too. A damned sight more grateful than the Somalians could hope to be!

Being an American gives me a sense of superiority over the rest of the world, but on the other hand, I hate America because it is the nerve center of global Feminism and Liberalism. I think of all of the uppity women in the Middle East who would be keeping their mouths shut if they didn't have America to look to and it makes me sick.

I'm conflicted.




Death to America.

my loyalties are that Im a texan first, southerner second and american third

When Texas seceeds from the Union, can you please execute Amanda Marcotte?

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When Texas seceeds from the Union, can you please execute Amanda Marcotte?

I'll take it under consideration
on the other hand what we might do is just send her to loser-iana, thats a fate worse than death

I just live here!!!

Proud..no...glad, yes.

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my loyalties are that Im a texan first, southerner second and american third

Too bad ya lost the war of northern aggression.

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my loyalties are that Im a texan first, southerner second and american third

I was a Colonel in the Confederate Air Force for a while some years back.

( I was also an Honourary Major in the USAF, too for a few years)

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I was a Colonel in the Confederate Air Force for a while some years back.

( I was also an Honourary Major in the USAF, too for a few years)

My grandfather worked at a bombs factory during the WW2 and he was like 20 something and he tells me stories about it. Pretty creepy stories since he also lived in a city that had oil refineries and the USAF liked bombing those. :P

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my loyalties are that Im a texan first, southerner second and american third

Interesting. I actually don't consider myself a southerner. That starts in Louisiana and goes east from there.