Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
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- 28th-October-2009 #1
Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
From Yahoo Answers
Please, if you can't give a coherent answer then don't bother reading.Feminism, by the dictionary definition is just equality between genders. It doesn't say "Feminist--Noun: One who burns her bras." I think feminist means a lot of different things to different people (for some people it means finally getting equal pay, for others it's a celebration of being a woman and being able to make choices). So if I say, "Yes, I consider myself a feminist," why do many people tend to think man-hating feminazi? There are obviously extremists in every group. It's bigotry to assume all Muslims are suicide bombers, to say "I'm anti-Muslim" but somehow, you can say "I'm anti-feminism" and assume feminism is about superior rights for women instead of equal rights.I'm a feminist, and I think that it's wrong that women get preferential treatment in custody battles, just like it's wrong that women still don't get equal pay.But feminism isn't an organization, it's a theory of equality. The only rule is that you have to believe in equal rights, and you're in.
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- 28th-October-2009 #2
Re: Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
Noooohoooohooope....she even gots the dictionary definition wrong.
http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/2009/0...nding-all.htmlFEMINISM: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of sexual equality
I would say that more and more people realise that empowering women certainly doesn´t help men.Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
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Re: Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
wimyn have no such identity crisis
- 28th-October-2009 #4
Re: Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
My favorite thingie is how... A lot of feminists cry why their numbers are dwindling and (you've guessed it) blame it on the patriarchy, lol.
A lot of feminist blogs talk about the fast dwindling support of feminism, and people willing to associate themselves to it, but instead of going "hey, maybe we're doing something wrong if women dislike feminism"... They again find someone to blame.
Its funny, its almost like committing suicide. I have never seen an organization so immune to reform or self-correction and adaption. I'm trying hard to think, but I genuinely can't think of any other movement or group that has been so stubborn like... ever.
- 28th-October-2009 #5
- 3rd-November-2009 #6
Re: Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
Whoopee, I got best answer. I rarely use YA, so this is my first BA on there, break out the champagne.
Feminism is not an official organisation, I still don't understand why anyone takes them seriously.
How can anyone take a group seriously when all you have to do to be part of that group is just say you are?
There are no feminist leaders, and no official agenda, so why would any woman in her right mind want identify with them?
Self-proclaimed feminists are very good at claiming they've brought changes, they take credit for women having the right to vote, the right to work, and the right to drive, yet they have had no input in any of those things, all these laws are changed by governments, not unofficial dreamers.
You had to mention that women earn less, yes, they EARN less, but they do not unfairly make less than a man for doing the same job, same experience, same overtime etc. Feminists have been using this wage gap myth to give women victim status for years, I can see you've lapped it up and didn't even question it, I'm not the slightest bit surprised. In over 40 years of playing victim to it, feminists have never been able to point to one instance of a man being paid more than a woman for the same job, same hours, doesn't this tell you something? If it was such a problem, surely we would have at least one example in 40 bloody years?
I bet if you were asked, you'd say you're intelligent, you would probably consider yourself to be a free-thinker who uses logic and common sense, and that's fine, but if it was true, then why not ask the most blindingly obvious question there is, if it really did cost 20% less to hire a woman than it did a man, then why would any company hire a man?
Women, and the world at large, do not need feminism, it is a hindrance to women, and the worst of it is the fact that they do more to hold women back and make it so it's almost impossible to respect them, yet they claim to be looking out for women, they're a laughing stock the world over, and any woman who sides with them inevitably ends up looking just as much as a laughing stock, the phrase "Turkeys voting for Christmas" comes to mind.Hugh & Mary Discuss Feminist Related Issues (ALL SUBTITLED): http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...0081D259987DCD
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- 3rd-November-2009 #7
Re: Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
In the same way that you can say "I'm anti-man"?
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Great answer, 6ame.
One thing I will say for this woman, however, is that at least she acknowledges at least one unfairness that works against men; something most feminists never do. I always said that I would have more respect for the dictionary definition of feminism and few self-confessed feminists, were they to at least acknowledge discrimination against men, even if they were also foolish enough to buy into rubbish such as the 'wage gap'."There are lies, damned lies, and there are feministic statistics". Myself
"Behind every bitch, is a FEMINIST who made her that way....". Myself
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Re: Open Question: Why are people so hesitant to identify with feminism?
I never have seen wimyn deckhands on those crab fishing boats in the Bering Sea;
this is clearly a put down of wimyn if not an outright instance of blantant discrimination and calls for compensation for all wimyn struggling agin the exclusive male patrarchy;
as an intial remedial measure I suggest a quota system of 50/50;
the repression of wimyn has just got to stop
- 3rd-November-2009 #9
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