One of the biggest things other MRA's (no names) and I have clashed over was homosexuality. They supported gays and thought of them as allies. I, on the other hand, see that homosexuality is a direct threat to the traditional family and heterosexual manhood. I also pointed out that homosexuality is being championed by feminists as it has the same goals as feminism. These other MRA's couldn't see that. I wonder if it is becoming apparent to these MRA's now?

Because when the original easy dupes of socialist marxism realized that angry girls
had outlived their usefullness as straw men, they realized other new tantrum addicts were needed to replace them. SUDDENLY "Gay"& Lesbian issues were grudgingly
admitted past the gate to The Big Tent. Then after THEY had spent all their political
currency, Bi sexual,Trans-sexual/Trans-gender folk were seduced into believing angry white chicks on puppet strings would enable THEIR utopia with the least amount of actual work.

Kinda' Like a Ponzi Scheme.
Kinda' Like Social Security.

Note: I believe I've made my own discrimination between simple homosexuality and "gay"activists, aws well as women and feminists, quite clear on this forum. While I agree, in principal, with Garak's position, I make a clear distinction between "None of my freakin' business", and "You play with the big boys and you're gonna' get hurt".

Because liberal sicko's stick together. Many feminists also belong to PETA and Green Peace as well.

Liberals are crazy the have no self control and don't want others to as well. That includes homosexuals. Especially homosexuals.

Some lesbians are not feminist and dont hate men but in my experience these are a tiny minority. Feminism and lesbianism are inextricable.
One can disagree dislike yes even HATE certain actions WITHOUT hating the person. Calling someone "Homophobe" is a left wing shaming tactic, implying bigotry. Feminists are most unabashed about being Heterophobic.
That is -Hypocrisy .
A lot of the undermining of family life is done by homosexual militants who want and love family breakdown. Feminists mask what is primarily sexual jealousy of men with their discredited and dishonest ideology.

WHO SUPPORTS FEMINISM?
WHO IS FUNDING IT?
WHY DOES THE STATE NOT STOP DISHONEST FEMINIST PROPAGANDA?
WHY IS FAMILY LAW SO EVIL?
WHY DO FALSE ALLEGATIONS GO UNPUNISHED..?

Because this goes really high up.....

They, (The illuminati) forced feminism onto the world to destabilise the family unit, thereby, making society easier to control.

We are living in the devil`s kingdom, but not for much longer.


Robert.

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They, (The illuminati) forced feminism onto the world to destabilise the family unit, thereby, making society easier to control.

We are living in the devil`s kingdom, but not for much longer.


Robert.

Divide and Conquer.

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One of the biggest things other MRA's (no names) and I have clashed over was homosexuality. They supported gays and thought of them as allies. I, on the other hand, see that homosexuality is a direct threat to the traditional family and heterosexual manhood. I also pointed out that homosexuality is being championed by feminists as it has the same goals as feminism. These other MRA's couldn't see that. I wonder if it is becoming apparent to these MRA's now?

The "LAVENDER MENACE" has long ago morphed in to the powerful LAVENDER MAFIA - and they are absolutely ruthless in their SEPARATIST / NEO_EXTERMINATIONIST Hatred of Men, Masculinity and Normal Heterosexuality...

Including employing Homo-Anal Male Perverts as tools for advancing their agenda of MISANDRY - BAMN / By Any Means Necessary.

Like Solanas said in the SCUM Manifesto - Homo-Anal Males "encourage others to de-man themselves and thus render themselves relatively inoffensive."

As for the Pro-Homosex Scam Artistes pretendig to be Men's Rights Advocates - they tend to fall apart real quick when asked whether they actually support the Right of the Boy Scouts to be Free of Mandatory Pandering to the Coprophile Cult of Feces Focused Homo-Anal pathology??

For some reason - such factually accurate questions seem to discomfort them... Ahem.

Ohso
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell.

Correct what can gays bring to the MRM if they would be forced to fold when faced with heterosexual male values? They only thing they offer are temporary count boosts, nothing worth writing home about.

However, what if they had a negative impact on the heterosexual men in the MRM? What if they turned us against one another in the name of diversity? I would call that infiltration.

Think about this, why do feminists love diversity? They love it because they can use it like a hammer to get heterosexual men to turn against one another and to hate even themselves. They use unity to divide.

Maybe it's because feminists lean toward being a liberal bunch....and because of that, embrace liberal issues of many kinds.

Also: just my own opinion here....if antis reject gays and women, who do you think gays and women will side with if not each other? Both groups see themselves (rightly or wrongly) as groups that have been historically discriminated against and both feel that there is still a great deal of prejudice toward them, and both groups probably think that men are the ones who are practicing this prejudice/discrimination toward them the most.

There is a great deal of convincing left to do if antis are to win the support of the majority of women and the homosexual population. It's been my observation that seemingly the vast majority of antis are not interested in this task. In my view, that's going to limit your public support a great deal, and cause antis to have a bad reputation. What does it matter? Maybe it does matter, maybe it doesn't...you decide.

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Correct what can gays bring to the MRM ...

What gays can bring to the MRM is proof that male solidarity outweighs differences of opinion. That would be a first on the political scene.

Also, these men need not be beholden to any female interests.

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What gays can bring to the MRM is proof that male solidarity outweighs differences of opinion. That would be a first on the political scene.

Also, these men need not be beholden to any female interests.

Opinion? Is that what is destroying heterosexual families? Nothing more than opinions?

Ok cool cause for a second there I thought they were trying to LEGALLY redefine marriage for their own selfish interests. Silly me!

and cause antis to have a bad reputation.

Maybe this is part of the reason why. Anti is a negative term assigned to us by feminists to make us look worse than them. Let's stick with MRA, ok?

Garak, I was referring to the various opinions people have about being gay. You know, the liberal opinion that gay is ok, the fundamentalist Christian one that gay behaviour is sinful and your opinion that gays are bad because they are responsible for the destruction of marriage (a very silly opinion if you ask me).

In essence I think the men's movement should be about men, not political correctness.

Divide and Conquer- Garak

Yes the Cardasian is correct. When you have feminism, women in sports (getting pay over men that can do eveything better) and gay ways in full the population goes way down. The western elites are all for it, for they want less population, unstable families and endless infighting so the male population is confused and divided. I honestly believe these forces are in the MRM, sowing the seeds of disunity on boards like this one. The bigger AM gets the more we can expect them to try and come aboard to sow more seeds. We need to enlist the Cardasian Obsidion Order to couter such efforts. Is Garak up to the task?