Fuck her.. Thats the deal!

We really need more men refusing to pay, especially if the woman makes the same amount of money. This was one of the main issues that led to me becoming an MRA. In fact, I've yet​ to hear a logical reason why this gender role is still around.

I find women enjoy "dates" much more than the blokes, so THEY should be paying for it!!

Women rig the dating game by putting the onus on the man to ask for a date, then stating whomever has asked should pay. Despite many women proclaiming to be adherents of equality, the universal repulsion of women to the suggestion of 'going dutch' unravels the flimsiness of such a conviction.

There's often a direct correlation to the amount of sex a man has or not vs how much he spends. It's just a more formalized manifestation of the worlds oldest profession, where the punter is locked into a payment plan, of varying time spans and sums of monies, for 'goods' he may not even receive. Let the buyer beware!

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Women rig the dating game by putting the onus on the man to ask for a date, then stating whomever has asked should pay. Despite many women proclaiming to be adherents of equality, the universal repellence to the suggestion of 'going dutch' unravels the flimsiness of such a conviction.

There's often a direct correlation to the amount of sex a man has or not vs how much he spends. It's just a more formalized manifestation of the worlds oldest profession, where the punter is locked into a payment plan for 'goods' he may not even receive. Let the buyer beware!

...and in the rare occasion when a woman DOES ask a man out, she usually expects to go Dutch anyway! Not that I would have a problem with that (if I dated) of course, but I'd expect her to live up to the same standards as she would if a man asked her out, so it would only be acceptable if she would find it acceptable. Even worse, is that there are some spoiled women who think the man should ALWAYS pay EVEN if she was the one doing the asking out, stating that "it shows he cares" which is blatantly one-sided, "it took a lot of guts for her to ask him out, so he should pay", which is a blatant double standard, or that typical man-hating "gentleman" excuse.

I thought the entire point of dating was to get to know each other for a relationship, not a possible screw. Only anti-intellectuals view dating as a superficial exchange (money for sex).

Of course not!

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I thought the entire point of dating was to get to know each other for a relationship, not a possible screw. Only anti-intellectuals view dating as a superficial exchange (money for sex).

I always thought that was what sex was for.. After all, what more does one need to know about someone?

My response:

I've never quite understood this whole 'guy paying for dates' thing. Why? Why is there more obligation on the part of men, than there is women? A woman expecting to be paid for, SCREAMS of a superiority complex, thinking that her company is worth more than the guy's; I don't know about anyone else, but arrogance on that scale is very unattractive, in my eyes. It goes to show how there isn't so much difference between some women, and prostitutes, to be honest; same principle. Anyway, LEAVE this girl. If she's so shallow and selfish, that she gets upset at not being paid for by a POOR boyfriend, after a MONTH of being paid for, then she's going to cause you trouble, later down the line. The law gives women a lot of power over men, when it comes to areas such as parenting and divorce; if she's like this when you're in love, just imagine how she could be when you've fell out with one another. RUN.

Great response, I couldn't have said it better myself. To be honest, I've yet to hear a valid reason for why guys should always pay that isn't either blatantly one-sided or just stupid.

Problem is.. there is a mangina on every corner who is going to be willing to foot the bill.. so, when you get rid of the freeloader, dont be surprised if she is suckering off some other dude before you have even got the smell of her off your helmet..