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    This forum, this modesly sized community of regulars, has been undergoing some small changes recently. Our numbers have increased a little but the type of people has broadened. Acrimony has increased a tad.

    Hey, I 'm not pointing fingers nor do I intend to whack anyone. I have been arguementative too.

    It is easy to continue down the path of criticism and compalint about feminism. God knows there are few enough places safe to do either. It is good that we periodically explore what to do and what organisation is feasible. We don't seem to get very far with that.

    We discuss what we can do. We tell one another about things we are occasionally doing in the way of activism.

    What we rarely discuss is what we do at home.

    You see, there are a number of people here who are trying to make a go of their marriages. Not just the few women, either. And I think - howl me down if you wish - that a sound MRA looks after what he has got in an active fashion.

    So, why not discuss some issues of strengthening what we have at home?

    (Run for the Hills. Percy is going all touchy-feely ! )

    Below is an article by Marc Rudov. Whack'em on the head and drag'em to the cave Rudov.

    He makes a good case. It cuts both ways. Of course we do not expect men to be much good at communication if, that is, we apply stupid, mendacious, misandric stereotypes to ourselves; and we do expect women to have all the good words and phrases because they have a streotype, a hubris, about their own supreme communication skills.

    http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/20/why-did-she-choose-you/

    Marc H. Rudov

    Why Did She Choose You?

    April 20, 2008 at 2:03 pm · Filed under Vox Populi
    Harbingers of Failure

    Ask your woman why she chose a Louis Vuitton bag or Manolo Blahnik shoes. She’ll talk endlessly and enthusiastically about these possessions. Impressive, huh? Has she told you, to your face, with similar enthusiasm, why she chose you? If not, there are three possible reasons, each unacceptable: 1) you never asked her; 2) she doesn’t adore you; 3) she’s guarded and unexpressive. Whatever the case, your relationship is already dead and headed for dissolution.

    If you continue this relationship, however, without hearing her glowing testimonial about you, do so at your peril — and prepare for her scathing testimony about you in court. By the way, if you fail to communicate likewise to her, you are just as culpable for your eventual breakup. Being able to talk ad nauseam about why you love fishing or hunting or football, while unable to express specifically why you’re living with or married to her, is a HUGE red flag.

    Lack of conviction and inability to communicate it are two harbingers of failure — in politics, in relationships, in business. One of my most searing political memories is from November 4, 1979, three days before Senator Ted Kennedy officially announced his candidacy for the 1980 Democratic presidential nomination.

    On that pivotal night, CBS News correspondent Roger Mudd asked him why he wanted to be president. Kennedy, shocked by Mudd’s insightful question, stumbled, fumbled, and uttered a convictionless, passionless policy-speak response, precipitating a sharp decline in his popularity. Jimmy Carter ultimately defeated him 50%-38%. Kennedy really didn’t want to be president, and it was obvious.

    Dumbfounding
    Marriage in America is an institution in decline: divorce continues to ravage parents (especially fathers) and children; for the first time in history, only 49% of women are married; and the ever-climbing out-of-wedlock birthrate now averages 40%.

    Why is this? First, family law encourages acrimony and single-mother households. Second, misandrist feminists like Rosanna Hertz condone and celebrate fatherless homes. Third, men and women join forces for all the wrong reasons and can’t even explain why they’re together. It’s dumbfounding. If you don’t believe me, ask your best buddy why he’s with his current girlfriend or wife. You’ll be amazed at his answer. Or, maybe you won’t be.

    Last week, singer Enrique Iglesias announced to the press that, for at least three years, he’s been with girlfriend Anna Kournikova, who has ignored his countless marriage proposals. Says Iglesias about his unrequited attempts to betroth Anna: “I always try, but she pays me no attention.” Ignoring him is abusive, disrespectful behavior: she owes him an answer, one way or the other. But, his tolerance of her abuse and disrespect is proof that he has no self-esteem.

    Why on earth are these people together? And, what keeps them together? Besides unhealthy inertia and individual self-loathing, I haven’t a clue. Yet, you may identify with their dysfunctional dynamic and wonder why it’s a problem. If so, you need serious help.

    The NoNonsense Bottom Line
    Become Roger Mudd: Get to the “heart” of your relationship; determine why your woman wants to be with you. Ask her this simple, revealing question: Why did you choose me? If she’s not as obviously excited, animated, passionate, specific, and forthcoming about you as she is about her new shoes, give her the boot.
    He raises several useful issues.

    What would you advise people to do regarding their perceptions of one another, as an MRA.

    How would you, as an MRA, help people stay and grow together.?

    What would you do, as an MRA, to help your own marriage to survive and prosper and not fall prey to the Family Court blood and money suckers and associated rent-seeking scum?

    Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum
    Love the Sinner but not the Sin.
    (St. Augustine)

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
    against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. “
    (and within ourselves)
    (Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)

    A Feminist is a human being who has lost her way and turned vicious.
    If you meet one on the road as you Go your Own Way,
    offer kindness but keep your sword drawn.
    (Me)





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    My marriage has worked for nearly 20 years cause I married a noN feminist brainwashed Asian women.
    Filipinas value their family more than they do their personal ambitions this trait has saved our marriage a few times but currently we have never been happier.
    If I was to mention to her the term "male chauvinist pig " she would respond "how much did you pay for it and how do I cook it"

    In the Philippines men are not considered a step below cockroaches to be extermintated in any case theireis no vicious divorce laws enacted against men cause there AINT NO DIVORCE in the philippines

    We have two well adjusted chilreren the eldest is a trainee chef the younger is doing well in a non feminist private school and seems to have an apptitude for mathematics

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    Alright Shaazam, another man happily married to an Asian woman, the odds are much better aren't they! I'm happily married for 12 years to a Japanese lady I met in my home country.

    As for Marc, his heart is in the right place. Knowing why your wife likes you is great, telling you is not as good as showing you in deeds though.

    Our effeminate culture of, "talk to me lovey dovey or I'll dump you" shows Marc seems not to have escaped the talk show and its many dysfunctions.

    Asian cultures are filled with gestures and masculine ideas of one doesn't need to place your heart on your sleeve to be real. It's sad that we need so much talk, are all men & women from Venus now in the west, are there any mars men left?

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    I think, in our case, it's because when one of us wanted to give it up, the other one refused to give in. Call us stubborn, or gluttons for punishment.

    Seriously, the only thing that is getting us through this last time is the fact that we've been forced to confront and deal with our addictions, and we found an unbelievably fantastic counselor. Truly, he's a miracle worker. If we'd found him any earlier in our marriage, I doubt very much it would have worked, but we found him at exactly the right time.

    We joke that we're too stupid to know when to give up, but what it comes down to is commitment, and realizing that our lives wouldn't be any better apart. In fact, things would be worse in very many ways.

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    Quote Quote from Percy View Post
    He raises several useful issues.

    What would you advise people to do regarding their perceptions of one another, as an MRA.

    How would you, as an MRA, help people stay and grow together.?

    What would you do, as an MRA, to help your own marriage to survive and prosper and not fall prey to the Family Court blood and money suckers and associated rent-seeking scum?

    The main issue he raises is that many modern men are willing to be kicked around by females. The answer is for men to grow some gonand and kick back or go their own way.

    When men stop kowtowing to abusive females the females will get another plan.

    Blessings

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    Quote Quote from bobx23456 View Post
    The main issue he raises is that many modern men are willing to be kicked around by females. The answer is for men to grow some gonand and kick back or go their own way.

    When men stop kowtowing to abusive females the females will get another plan.

    Blessings

    Bob
    absolutely!

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    Oh, come on you two. You're giving all your power away.

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    The Fundamental problem is the fact that Women are subsidized by the Government in Divorce. The new term is the Divorce Industrial Complex. That is the problem. The fact that our Tax Dollars are being spent to encourage Divorce, not to discourage it. Only one party has to want out, and the other Party has no Say in the Matter. NONE. Going to a Marriage Counselor only works if both parties are committed to trying to make the Marriage work. And the problem is that Women have the Government firmly on their side. And even worse it is adversarial against Men. It is our sworn enemy.

    We are already identified due to the Duluth Model as the Primary Aggressor. When in doubt always arrest the man. Always. VAWA and IMBRA states that Men are the abusers. And that US Men are abusive Sex Criminals who must prove their innocence. Our Constitutional Right to the presumption of innocence is dead. Terrorists at Gitmo have more rights than US Men. This is an outrageous abuse of Government power.

    How heavy handed look at WACO, Ruby Ridge, and now San Angelo. On an accusation without Proof. Just an accusation. When they had an Undercover Informant there for Four years and they could not find anything. Your children now belong to the Government. This is clearly established, in WACO and now in San Angelo. California declared Home Schooling Parents to be Criminals.


 

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