Janus I notice many men argue with these feminist types - to be honest I regard it as a waste of time .I have done a bit of it and have found it a futile exercise - they are different so different from you.They are NOT seekers after the truth.Even if you give accurate figures you wont change their ideas even if you prove them wrong, they will keep telling lies that is what feminism is A LIE.
For what its worth if you must - attack them with questions them why defend men why are we always defending?attack them with their lies on DV? Question their research who did it what questions were asked?etc Challenge them.Set them on the defensive!
This guy maybe able to help its a superb site been up a long time and he knows a thing or two about feminists tricks and lies.
http://www.fathersforlife.org/Table_...#Hate_Language
I still think we should aim our wrath at politicians who continue to ignore us,yet bend over backwards to "please wimmin".

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Janus I notice many men argue with these feminist types - to be honest I regard it as a waste of time .I have done a bit of it and have found it a futile exercise - they are different so different from you.They are NOT seekers after the truth.Even if you give accurate figures you wont change their ideas even if you prove them wrong, they will keep telling lies that is what feminism is A LIE.
For what its worth if you must - attack them with questions them why defend men why are we always defending?attack them with their lies on DV? Question their research who did it what questions were asked?etc Challenge them.Set them on the defensive!
This guy maybe able to help its a superb site been up a long time and he knows a thing or two about feminists tricks and lies.
http://www.fathersforlife.org/Table_...#Hate_Language
I still think we should aim our wrath at politicians who continue to ignore us,yet bend over backwards to "please wimmin".

I know. I just can't back down from this BS though. I just can't. I want some numbers, # of male rapes reported and percentage estimated NOT to report it due to shame or embarrassment. Then I can use those numbers to get a est. total of real victims and compare it to her number.

It makes me sick and I won't take it anymore. I just need numbers, stats and facts to help me out. That is why I'm here.

(Un)equal time for female molesters : Here

Men are More Likely Than Women to Be Victims in Dating Violence, UNH Expert Says : Here

Drug rape myth exposed as study reveals binge drinking is to blame. :Here

Over one million false allegations of domestic violence each year : Here

Straus Says National Violence Against Women Survey is Biased : Here


Plenty of 'facts & figures' in this forum, here.

Women do rape men, they just can't rape men generally because men are generally much more poweful than them, that's one reason why the statistics are unbalanced. When women rape men, it's when men are at their most vunerable, like being drunk, or sleeping.

Women tend to rape children a lot more than men, because they can control children. So it's true that men probably rape women at a higher rate, than the other way around. There's no point in fighting a statistic like that.

NONETHELESS, a lot of women do something just as bad as rape, and that's crying rape. Fem****s love to claim this is isolated, but 95% of rapes fail to result in convictions, which is a pretty big indicator that a lot of women who claim to be raped, are indeed lying. Fem****s want to claim this percentage is too low, which may or may not be so, but considering that men are not being found not guilty after trials, is something that highly implies that most women are lying when it comes to rape claims.

There is this, but most of the details I'm finding so far insist on talking about men raping men, not women raping men.

Ask Alice

Dear Alice,
Is male rape possible? Where can I find more information on male rape?

—Floor question
Dear Floor question,
Yes, male rape does happen. Most research suggests that 10 to 20 percent of all males will be sexually violated at some point in their lives and that one in every ten rape victims is male. Recent studies by the Department of Justice and other governmental agencies found that victimized men accounted for 6% (9,040 men) of completed rapes, 9 % (10,270 men) of attempted rapes, and 11% (17,130 men) of completed and attempted sexual assaults reported. Additionally, studies sponsored by gay and lesbian studies programs at various universities suggest that 12 - 30 percent of gay and bisexual men surveyed had indicated that they engaged in sexual intercourse when they did not want to because they felt coerced to do so. Recent studies show that more than 86% of male survivors are sexually abused by another male.
Experts believe that current male rape statistics vastly under-represent the actual number of men who are raped each year both because crime statistics often do not actually include men as potential victims of rape and because men are less likely to report rape. Research suggests that the rates of under-reporting among men are even higher than those of women.
While male rape occurs, it's often not considered an acceptable topic for discussion because of the commonly held beliefs that men are "too big," "too strong," or "too much into sex" to be sexually assaulted. The adverse effects of commonly held gender stereotypes of males contribute to the stigma, shame, and embarrassment a male survivor goes through as they begin to cope with what has happened to them.

Here's another...
Survivers UK

Within our society there is much ignorance, taboo and misinformation on the crime of male rape and sexual abuse. At Survivors UK we know that in order to help the many thousands of men who have suffered this terrible ordeal, we need to dispel the myths and break down the taboos of male sexual assault.

...

Who can it happen to?
Quite simply, anyone. It could have happened to you whilst you were a child or a teenager, or as an adult. It is not a 'gay crime' - it happens to more straight men than gay men.

Thousands of men contact Survivors UK every year.

Why do so many men suffer in silence?
Because of our society's taboo about male rape and sexual assault it is rare that a victim will go to the police or seek immediate help - on the contrary, he will often be as desperate to keep it a secret as his attacker is. As well as the trauma and feelings of shame, many of our clients face the difficulties of people's attitudes to male rape and abuse.

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(Un)equal time for female molesters : Here

Men are More Likely Than Women to Be Victims in Dating Violence, UNH Expert Says : Here

Drug rape myth exposed as study reveals binge drinking is to blame. :Here

Over one million false allegations of domestic violence each year : Here

Straus Says National Violence Against Women Survey is Biased : Here


Plenty of 'facts & figures' in this forum, here.

I couldn't find any info for male rape victims though, or estimations on how many victims go without reporting their abuse. I need numbers on that.

Janus, the percentages are bound to be unequal. Women don't have the means to rape men, and any attractive woman attempting rape, probably wouldn't get turned away. If Hilary Duff came at me and tried to rape me, I wouldn't even try and stop her. You can't rape the willing. lol

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Janus, the percentages are bound to be unequal. Women don't have the means to rape men, and any attractive woman attempting rape, probably wouldn't get turned away. If Hilary Duff came at me and tried to rape me, I wouldn't even try and stop her. You can't rape the willing. lol

Don't have the means? Is that sarcasm, or complete ignorance? Not all men are willing, and there are many victims. I'm asking for a number and a source. Also a estimate of how many go unreported for a rough total.

Also, the female stats are not factual. 50% of women lie about rape, so cut them right in half, then take all the "Oh I had one drink last night and today my boyfriend found out I cheated so it's rape" cases out and you are left with a number not nearly as large as what was given to me.

I just want to sort through this BS and show women are not just victims, they are just as bad as men are.

Women don't have the strength to rape an unwilling man, and they know this, so they don't even try. It'd be like me trying to rape a professional boxer. I wouldn't stand a chance.

And not, not all men are willing, I agree. But considering the difference in attitude towards sex men and women have, a lot of men wouldn't object to a woman being aggressive sexually. That's how men are programmed. They want sex, and as much of it as possible.

As for the 50% of women lie about rape, well the conviction rate heavily implies it's 95% who lie about being raped. The true percentage of who is lying and who isn't will never be known though. If you wanted to win this argument, you should have used some other arguments. Arguments like how children are at more danger with their mother than father for example.

Men will always rape women more than the other way around, because men are more powerful. This is just something we should just all accept, and not debate against.

Women are just as evil as men, I agree. Just in different ways.

Oh, and don't mistake this as me having a go at you, I'm on your side. Really, I am.

As given in example in the film '40 days & 40 nights' women can & do rape men, and boys. In fact, the latest 'priority news' sections has a bulletin about a teacher who raped 5 boys.

Rape does not, as feminists are only too eager to tell us, necessarily mean physical force - it can be unwillingly, coerced, drugged, etc. there are many definitions to express rape. You're focusing purely on one aspect - which any feminist will tell you, is wrong

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Female Teacher Rapes 5 Boys

A female middle school teacher was arrested Wednesday accused of having sex with five boys under her supervision. In a wide range of locations outside & inside the school a Allenna Williams is said to have had sex with boys varying in ages up to 15. Investigators say there could be more cases coming to light. She is charged with five counts of second-degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor and six counts of lewd acts on a minor.

Rape?

Whenever a man penetrates a woman, it is rape..


A woman cant ever truly consent, becuase..

She is always under patriachal oppression and cant be expected to know whether or not she is making the right decision..

What is interesting about "rape" is that it is almost always avoidable with a common sense attitude..

And more women that men will vouch for that (there are stats on this.. women on the whole have a far lower opinion on prick teasers than men have!)..

The rape debate is a non-debate..

Dont let the femi-hags get you rooting for mathematical proof of the obvious,..

The state dont really mean much, as you aught to know..

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As given in example in the film '40 days & 40 nights' women can & do rape men, and boys. In fact, the latest 'priority news' sections has a bulletin about a teacher who raped 5 boys.

Rape does not, as feminists are only too eager to tell us, necessarily mean physical force - it can be unwillingly, coerced, drugged, etc. there are many definitions to express rape. You're focusing purely on one aspect - which any feminist will tell you, is wrong

The definition of rape put forward by feminists isn't even worth giving the time of day. I agree though, rape can come in different forms. A man could be sleeping, and a woman could start masturbating him, and that is indeed, rape.

Janus,

I don't believe you'll be able to find decent statistics on male rape, because it's my understanding that prison rape is not reported in the U.S. Dept. of Justice official documents.

Of course, a lot of the published feminist stats on rape are defined as "sexual assault, attempted rape, or completed rape...."

Just like domestic violence, the definitions of rape continue to be broadened to include even the most ambiguous circumstance. "Date rape" and "marital rape" are now encoded in law.

It is interesting that "penetration" by a penis always qualifies as rape, while "engulfment" by a vagina does not.

Yet almost every day we read news stories about female sexual predators exploiting young men and often a teacher with her high school student, and usually these predators get off with a slap on the wrist; whereas a man would get 12 years hard time --- the average sentence for statutory rape.