Thread: Need Assistance with Replies, On domestic violence, no one wants to hear the truth

Barbara Kay is one of the few Canadian journalists challenging the PC status quo, and the National Post is the most conservative daily here. They are regularly dismissed by the mainstream as right-wing nutcases.

The truly evil part of all this is how feminist discourse dovetails with corporate greed, so that the MSM continues to publish slanted material because advertisers and retailers make more money. If women changed their consumer habits, we might actually see some balance in the media.

These internet debates generally boil down to warring statistics: who's numbers are correct, and how society should act on them. Feminists get the default credibility, even though their "scholarship" has been de-bunked. And PCism has convinced people that anything conservative is bad and regressive.

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Barbara Kay is one of the few Canadian journalists challenging the PC status quo, and the National Post is the most conservative daily here. They are regularly dismissed by the mainstream as right-wing nutcases.

The truly evil part of all this is how feminist discourse dovetails with corporate greed, so that the MSM continues to publish slanted material because advertisers and retailers make more money. If women changed their consumer habits, we might actually see some balance in the media.

These internet debates generally boil down to warring statistics: who's numbers are correct, and how society should act on them. Feminists get the default credibility, even though their "scholarship" has been de-bunked. And PCism has convinced people that anything conservative is bad and regressive.

That should be a clue. We men need to start going after merchants who support hate.

Glenn Sacks is attacking advertisers who publish anti-men ads, and is having some success. I have been publishing acolades for good companies and criticism of bad companies on my blog. For example, when ACE Hardware replaced "Helpful hardware man" with "Helpful hardware pro," I published a complaint. And I heard from individual store owners who blamed it on corporate management which they had no control of. I suggested that they complain to corporate, not to me. I haven't darkened the door of ACE hardware since.

In another case the Safeway store was collecting money for Prostate Research. They got an acolade. Good stores should be appreciated.

Men need to be loud and clear. We will not buy from merchants who pay for hate of men. And those of us who are married should steer our wives to other stores.

Blessings

Bob

Okay so please help with formulating a reply to what they said. That's what this thread is for.

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Okay so please help with formulating a reply to what they said. That's what this thread is for.

I have found that trying to dispute their fictitious "statistics" and hate speech is a total waste of your time. These hatebitches are not interested in facts or figures. You can tell by their name calling and ranting.

The ways I reply to that kind of hate is to deny the validitity of any of their "Women's Stuides" hate fiction and tell them that their feminst hate lies weren't worth shit when their grandmother used them, and men have learned better, so today they can take their lies and hate speech and cram it up their filthy fat ass. Always use the word "fat" when arguing with a bitch. They hate being "fat" more than anything else. And every female secretely believes herself to be "too fat." "Lard ass sow" is good too.


Have fun.

Blessings

Bob

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I have found that trying to dispute their fictitious "statistics" and hate speech is a total waste of your time. These hatebitches are not interested in facts or figures. You can tell by their name calling and ranting.

Well I don't want to back off otherwise they'd think they're right which gives others a wrong impression.

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Well I don't want to back off otherwise they'd think they're right which gives others a wrong impression.

Never admit that their statistics are right, in fact always criticize them as hate lies and fiction. Criticize the females who "spew" such hate as Nazis, fascist, bigots, etc. Then hit them with "fat" or some equal. Water buffalo, hippopotamus, whale, walrus, rhinoceros, sow, cow, etc.

Since they believe their lies because they have been brainwashed by “Women’s Studies” and aren’t interested in truth anyway, you can’t win by refuting individual statistics. That only leaves you exposed to “hates women” or some such. Instead you have to turn the tables on them. They “hate men” for pushing “hate lies.’ The lies were hate speech when their mother used them and nobody believes that crap any more. Their feminist hate program has destroyed families and hurts children. Ask them why they are so much in favor of hurting children? Ask them why they don’t find some new lies instead of repeating the old tired lies of their walrus mothers.

Countering their statistics with other statistics doesn’t help. They don't care. You have to turn the discussion to the evils of feminsm and fat feminists.

For example. To argue that their lie about 25% of college females are raped is the wrong number you have to accept, and affirm, their hate speech that college females being raped is a serious problem. The big lie of feminism is never in their numbers, its in the premise that underlies the rhetoric.

For example, if you object to an argument about the number of “deadbeat dads” being too high, you have affirmed the validity of their whole “C$” program, the slavery of men, and the payment of females for destroying families. Pointing out that most “deadbeat dads” are really dead broke dads only affirms and encourages their program by affirming your acceptance of the radical female social experiment. Instead turn the discussion to slavery of men, destruction of families, and the failed radical feminazi social experiment that hurts millions of children, etc. And always let them know that a fat water buffalo who hates men is a loser.

Blessings

Bob

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Okay so please help with formulating a reply to what they said. That's what this thread is for.

My only suggestion would be asking hard questions, like do they know which gender pays more taxes, commits more suicide etc.

If their minds are already made up it doesn't matter how good your arguments or statistics are, you'll just be a target for scorn.

Okay thanks for the tips. You throw bones at me and want me to do the rest by myself. That's alright, but it's more useful for me if people post what they would reply themselves literally and precisely. I don't really seek vague advice.

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Okay thanks for the tips. You throw bones at me and want me to do the rest by myself. That's alright, but it's more useful for me if people post what they would reply themselves literally and precisely. I don't really seek vague advice.

I'm sorry if we weren't more help. Its almost impossible to script specific answeres when we weren't involved in the original discussion.

Good luck with the femorrhoids.

Blessings

Bob

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I'm sorry if we weren't more help. Its almost impossible to script specific answeres when we weren't involved in the original discussion.

Good luck with the femorrhoids.

Blessings

Bob

You could produce answers based on the information in the first post. Anyway please ignore this thread if you don't supply what I seek.

What do you folks think about this?

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If anything, domestic violence against men is a greater problem than we think, but to say it's actually a greater problem than against women is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe you even posted this shit in here. I was being polite before but now you're just masturbating thinking you have a point. Please, if you want to post something controversial, at least put some thought into it.

Don't put words into my mouth. I never said it was a "greater" problem for men than for women. My point simply that the issue of domestic violence against men is not being addressed. There is a lack of attention (or the absense of) recognition of male DV victims as if they do not exist. One-sided sexist policies such as VAWA support women, but not men and is a example of how men get second-class treatment.

Do you know about for example the must arrest laws? That with domestic violence incidents there are now male-specific laws where an attending officer MUST arrest the male even if there is no proof.

The author of that article Barbara Kay is one of the few Canadian journalists challenging the PC status quo.

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What do you folks think about this?



Don't put words into my mouth. I never said it was a "greater" problem for men than for women. My point simply that the issue of domestic violence against men is not being addressed. There is a lack of attention (or the absense of) recognition of male DV victims as if they do not exist. One-sided sexist policies such as VAWA support women, but not men and is a example of how men get second-class treatment.

Do you know about for example the must arrest laws? That with domestic violence incidents there are now male-specific laws where an attending officer MUST arrest the male even if there is no proof.

The author of that article Barbara Kay is one of the few Canadian journalists challenging the PC status quo.

Once again, its a feminazi hate program intended to round up men and send men off to Auschwitz. It has little or nothing to do with real violence which is just about equally divided, nor about abusing children which is 2x as often done by mothers than fathers. The "must arrest" is a feminist excuse to destory families and send men to hell. It is strongly reminiscent of the 3rd Reich program of rounding up Jews, or the medieval witch hunts with the sole differnce of substituting "men" for "Jew" or "witch." It's a hate program of extermination.

Feminism adopted opposition to families in the middle of the 19th century at the Ceneca Falls Conference. The DV laws and hate is a part of the feminazi war on men, marriage and families.

Any female who supports the DV laws and hate is an evil femiNazi who is waging a propaganda war on men and families. Sending men to Auschwitz (or the local hellhole concentration camp, whatever its called) because of a female's hissy fit is abhorrent to decent men and women.

Their lies and hate have no place among decent people.

Blessings

Bob

Two new replies:

The issue can be summed up as such.

A guy punches a woman. This is seen as totally unacceptable by pretty much all members of civilized society. (And it is, don't get me wrong!)
But if a girl punches/physically abuses a man, it's seen as funny and not serious; the guy is probably going to draw more flak from this.

It's just one of those long-standing biases we have developed, and one that is now entrenched in our society. Of course, in practice, it really won't happen as men are bigger and stronger, but if it did, that is how it would be percieved.

And the second one:

The VAWA is only one act of many supporting victims against domestic violence and victims of crimes in general, and most victims rights acts are nonsense anyway; most of them just repeat the same things over again to simply profess and reiterate the rights of victims. The money proposals for those acts are never even met, with actual budgets set well below the upper limit.

I never said it was a "greater" problem for men than for women. My point simply that the issue of domestic violence against men is not being addressed.

So what you're saying is you agree that it IS a greater problem. But nay, let's not put words in your mouth. It's not being addressed because it's not as big of a social problem as domestic violence against women. That's why there's a VAWA and not a VAMA. Obviously, cultural ideologies and politics took a social problem way out of proportion (as they always do), and the VAWA SHOULD cover both sexes--but you're still going to see men berated with shit over women. Domestic violence against men happens--we're all aware of that possibility. Is it a big enough problem to bitch about outside the alteration of the VAWA? No. Wasting taxpayer dollars on minor social problems is stupid. We're aware it happens to men too, we just don't care. This is hardly where we should start fixing America with the fucked economy we have.

If society really wants to reduce domestic violence, it starts by holding men and women equally accountable and responsible.

Excuse society for not being liberal against common sense! I suppose we can reduce racism by enforcing affirmative action, too. Oh wait! THAT JUST CREATES MORE RACISM. Same concept. Let society fix itself, not policy.

The author of that article Barbara Kay is one of the few Canadian journalists challenging the PC status quo.

There's a reason there's a few. It's because it's not a big enough social problem.

Also, thanks for the negrep, but since you are in the red it just ended up giving me neutral.

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Okay thanks for the tips. You throw bones at me and want me to do the rest by myself. That's alright, but it's more useful for me if people post what they would reply themselves literally and precisely. I don't really seek vague advice.

I am starting to understand how these people think. What they are taught during school. (MBAs)

They are encouraged to be thinkers as in the conclusion has no merit. For their is no conclusion on thought.

They use hypotheses to argue a point. In fact everything is based on argument.

Their arguments start from questions. Their journals and the journals they use are never facts. They are simple someone's thoughts and a good argument to back the thought.

I know this sounds outrageous to people who live by facts but their are no facts being used. All research is different in theses scenarios.

You need to argue your point and you need to question their point. But what about this? What about that?

Maybe that is helpful. (maybe it is not).

Facts mean nothing. Nothing is real.

Maybe you need to figure out what it is you are arguing for.

If you decide to argue that men are suffering in DV then you need to show stories where women have killed their husbands.

But then you need to argue that these women were not doing it as self defence. That they were doing it as if they set out to do it. Stories of women being caught by law deliberately killing their husbands could back you argument.

Like the women who killed her army husband for breast implants.

Maybe leave it with the question, "How important is this man's life. He even sacrificed is life for others."

And maybe asked, "What will this teach the younger generation."

That's the best I could do.