Very good story, Vargas, thanks for putting it up here!

Now that I think about it, I will use "my woman" proudly and not apologize about it either. It expresses my feelings for her, a strong woman, mother of my children and I hope that she would also to refer to me as "my man"

Hell, yea! You pretty much tell it like it is (how it should be) up there, so I don't know what else to add, except: Cheers, mate!

A (in a frenzy): "You are a natural born macho. You don't even know, what you're doing. You are stubborn. German is a antifeminist language anyway. which it is from the feminist linguist point of view - feminist linguists are a big fraction in the german "scene" - needless to say, they are wrong etc...

Considering that the English language diverged from German, the women would probably claim that English is a form of *female oppression*, however they would never be able to offer a single shred of objective evidence to support their delusional claims, as their hysterical insinuations cannot be verified.

Perhaps the insane feminazi's were aware that the word *C U N T* is derived from the Germanic lanaguage, and probably used that as the foundation of their argument. Then again, I doubt the women were disciplined enough to study the history of anything that doesn't evolve around *THEM* and their *narcissistic feelings*.

Women tend to refer to men as their *boys* or their *fellas*, yet women think that is acceptable, however they will ATTACK a man who refers to a woman as his *woman*. Such a mentality is an indication of narcissism and a personality disorder, because a sane individual would not define herself as being exempt from the harsh standards that she enforces upon the men.

Female narcissism seems to be portrayed as a form of *liberation*, as a LOT of women tend to possess an internet handle that refers to themselves as "sexy, sexilicious, hot, beautiful, goddesses, babe, big breasted women etc", and people do not find anything wrong with their arrogance. If a man were to use such a term about himself, he would be called a narcissistic psychopath who lives in a fantasy world, and he would be told that he *cannot obtain sex from women*.

Women in general are allowed to obtain a large degree of moral impunity, and it's derived from the legal impunity that they have received from the law system for hundreds of years.

Quote from YanYan as above guest

It's definitely a question of attitude not language.
In this little corner of the world, my woman likes me to say "my woman"and her friends would say the same. At a guess because it gives her a sense of 'belonging' - being secure rather than being owned.

Similarly at a social gathering if somebody asked who she was and another replied, 'she's Yan Yan's woman', no offence would be taken.
There's an ex-pat American in our group who constantly refers to his girl as 'my future ex-wife'. They've been together a long time so she smiles a tired smile whenever he says it. I'm sure she'd much rather hear 'my woman'.

OOOPS!! Thought I was logged in.

Anyway I'll use the second shot for a bit of linguistic trivia. I only discovered a few weeks ago a well known word was coined by the early American colonists. In the Puritan communities a person could be punished - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. But I doubt if it'll ever come up on 'Who wants to be a Millionaire'.

It's odd you bring that up as i'd read otherwise.

I'd read that the aforementioned acronym came from old English back in the days when families had a badge, or crest to their name. Although i admit my memory is hazy on this subject (we're talking 15ish years ago when i was told this), it was said that a certain family in England were constantly going at it hammer & tongues and the man was somewhat renown for banging anything that remotely resemebled a woman. This guy was apparently some Lord, not just any old Joe Bloggs. His family badge bore the acronym "Ғ ΰ ĉ Κ", though i cannot now recall exactly what it stood for.
It was written that many of the 'common' surnames in England today (Smith, Jones, Brown, etc.) come from this one man, who would hump stable-hands, servents, maids, farm-hands, you name it - he was on them like a rabbit with a self-recharging ever-ready battery.

I don't know which is true, i doubt it matters too much - just letting you know what i'd read years ago.

In fact, this may well be worth looking into as a competition for a later date

The standard explanation for surnames is that distinguishing all those Jacks and Joes became difficult so another word was added denoting their appearance, home village or job. Smith hammered iron, Wright built wagons, Sawyer sawed wood, Thatcher mended the roof, Fletcher made arrows and so on. But your story is more entertaining!

On the same tack I also read that in the Middle Ages it was the custom of young men and women on Mayday to go off into the woods and enjoy themselves - it being a celebration of fertility and all that. No doubt a furtive glance at the Maypole got them going. The following Yuletide a number of babies would be born with no clearly defined progenitor so the Robin Hood legends were used to give them a surname. So if your surname is Robinson, Littlejohn, Merryman, Tuckson or even Green, your ancestry could be suspect!

Anyway, back on the thread! I think a very good strategy for MRA's would be to take back the power of language. In my former life I was obliged, every year, to sign a form for my trendy leftie, PC local government employer stating that I was not a Freemason. Guys only of course. Every year I wrote, "I am not a member of the Freemasons but I am a member of Lesbian Sisters for World Domination'. Nothing ever happened.

Since I read this thread I will henceforth say 'my woman' with a little extra pride, both in myself and in her. In our home language it sounds nice anyway - no negative overtones. Our western brothers should do the same.

Hello Vargas,

Sorry to hear about the contretemps you caused - sounds like you were an inadvertant rable rouser ! It reads as funny in retrospect because it really does seem very silly - but as you say, I'm sure it wasn't at the time.

I'm glad to see that some women stuck up for you though!

It's hard to know how to refer to people's personal relationships these days - the observations you made about the terms you listed are true and I've faced the same quandry myself in knowing quite what to say...

If I had read your comment on the forum my I think my only thought on the matter might have been that you were not a native speaker - but I'd have been a lot more interested in the topic at hand - who was the cat/dog lover (BTW I'm a cat lover)!

I always find it amusing how feminists can get quite bent out of shape at the slightest misunderstanding. Seriously, not to be sexist, but women tend to get more emotional over smaller things than men- except feminists take it to the next level- smaller things, and they get angrier and absolute.

The other day I got called a troll because I pointed out how a feminist used a double standard- twice. In fact, in the following post when she called me a troll she actually proved both of my points. Of course, unlike Vargas I did a more foul deed- in fact one of the most that if feminists got their way would warrant death- I told one of them they were wrong about something.

How many million times do you hear a woman say my man my boyfriend.

longest flame war in history eh?

Little to worry about have they not?

Must Go.... MY BITCHES have just brought some tea and biccies!

The feminazi's are most likely trying to insinuate that the term *My Woman* is an epithet, as they view the terminology as a reference to the hierarchal system that acknowledges men and women as being unique, and the feminazi's are unable to accept that there are unique qualities and disparate differences between men and women.

The feminazi's wish to live in a society where sexual disparities are replaced by gender, so that women can obtain the role of *man* when it is of convenience (IE. The desire to enter the fields that are generally dominated by men), but retain the qualities of chivalry that offer immense privilege to women (IE. Expecting to be treated better than the men and demanding that women be given more opportunity than men).

Well said Chris, well said.

Good gracious me, you'll be perpetuating the "rule of thumb is because of wife-beating" canard next!

You mean it's not true??!!

Pity.

I cannot imagine responding to someone so vehemently as the women that you encountered did to you.

If I may, my own opinion on this is that anytime I hear someone say "my man," "my woman," etc. I cringe a little. As a teacher I had years ago used to say, "Slavery was abolished decades ago."

I have a girlfriend who constantly refers to my husband in this manner to which I constantly inform her, "He's not my man. I don't own him. He's my husband, his name is J__. Yet, it still manages to go over her head. *sigh*

In any case, I guess for me the gist is this, if you don't agree with something, don't exempt yourself. I don't have some crazy idea that it's okay for me to call my husband "my man" yet God help him if he call me his woman. That's just silly. It should really be all or nothing.

A(ngry girls): "How can you say MY woman! She does not belong to you! She is not your possession!

If I say "MY God"...

does God belong to me,
is God my possession,
do I own him, etc.?

If I may, my own opinion on this is that anytime I hear someone say "my man," "my woman," etc. I cringe a little. As a teacher I had years ago used to say, "Slavery was abolished decades ago."

Wonderful joke Smtms/Alwys

Are men not enslaved to women in the western world? Does the west want to spread the word to the entire globe that men are merely cannon fodder and women should be worshipped?

I disagree most vehemently with your egalitarian crap. If I didn't call my Asian woman "My Woman" should would be seriously offended. She would ask me why I couldn't acknowledge her as such. Do I mean to discard her?- Big fight!!
Should I be ashamed of my very intelligent but peasant wife in the pseudo-intellectual environment of this internet board that very kindlly tolerates arrogant and semi-educated arrogant western viragos?

Did you earn your debating arrogance or was it simply bestowed upon you by the system that sustains and glorifies you? Tell the truth. What did you do for your nation?
What did you give back to all those diligient, unseen men that sustained your every comfortable day of your comfortable week, under pain of their imprisonment? Nothing! you just took them for granted.

Collectively. They gave - you took.
The hour is late.