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MRM --- The big Fail..

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    The history of the MRM seems to be a catalogue of failure..

    I laugh when I hear folk speak optimistically of signs of hope for the movement, when all around us there is increasing evidence that all movement is in the opposite direction..

    The only hope for the movement is that it can somehow be made into an effective force, and start to do effective things..

    But every attempt to get folks to unite, and to do such things, runs into a wall of apathy and a failure to progress..

    I personally know of literally dozens of men and women who are no longer contactable in the movement, folk who were once in the front line, have now dissapeared.. or at best, have spiralled off into other hardly related directions that dont get the feminists and the state so worried..

    The biggest thing to affect society regarding the movement was f4j, and now, f4j is completey demolished as a force, there is pratically NO f4j other than a handful of dispersed fellows..

    The moderate groups, dont even class as mrm groups really, all they do is play the system laid down by the state, and sit back and watch as things get worse..

    I will be going to the Geoff Hibbert Trial tomorrow, I will probably meet up with what is left of the f4j crew, it will be a small number of people, because, practically everyone has quit now.. And there is no new blood..

    More and more, the ideas I have always supported and hoped to see progressed look more and more like what needs to be done..

    Ideas such as retreat strategies, alternative cultures, work strikes, direct actions (not "line em up for jail" stunts)..

    The online movement is self-destructive, that is clear to see..

    The street movement is dead in the water, or simply passively going along with the feminist statist ways and feminising men.. Or lining folk up for court and jail with no return or public support worth thinking of..

    I suspect I will be dissasociating myself from the movement soon, for the sake of my own personal mental health and other reasons..

    One cannot keep flogging a dead horse while one watches it weaken and flog itself towards an early grave..

    I will stay committed to the ideals shared by a few of the wise elements in the movement and work from there..

    I believe the best approach for folk who want to get the results to be..

    1. Retreat from the system..

    Strikes, tax avoidance, freedom from wage slavery and feeding the state parasites..

    Avoidance of the family courts, total..

    2. Inconviencing the system..

    Direct actions, pestering and maintaining pressure on those in power, demo's etc..

    3. Promotion of the idea of male headship in families, with all the duties and responsibilities that entails.. Abandonment of the utopian folly of "equality"..

    4. Creation of sub-cultures that allow the above ideas to be enjoyable and social activities..

    5. Maintaining contact and good communications with other like-minded folk..

    6. Consideration and assimiliation of the ways and methods of the effective groups in society that seem less prone to the problems we suffer, largely, religious groups..

    Have fun thinking of what you folk need to do..

    And dont forget, if the movement fails again, it will be MY fault..

    It must be, because I get the blame for everything round here and everywhere else!!

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    Haahoo, why don't you go visiting all the offices around you country and tell men they can't be the way they are. Go tell them that progress is shit and they need to be something they don't want to be.

    Oh, and can you pass on something to my cousin and her husband. He has a massive contract with technology and owns a number of homes in different countries but they happen to be living in the UK at the moment. Please don't mention anti feminism.

    And can you also get some autographs from soccer players for me too. But please get the autograph before you tell them how to be a man.
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    Haahoo, why don't you go visiting all the offices around you country and tell men they can't be the way they are. Go tell them that progress is shit and they need to be something they don't want to be.

    Oh, and can you pass on something to my cousin and her husband. He has a massive contract with technology and owns a number of homes in different countries but they happen to be living in the UK at the moment. Please don't mention anti feminism.

    And can you also get some autographs from soccer players for me too. But please get the autograph before you tell them how to be a man.
    Fuck off

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    I cannot speak for any movement, but masculinity is alive and well, at least in my home and in my wife and children. What? Masculinity in women, in your home? Consider it the recognition of masculinity, the measure of a man, the extent of integrity. My girls can spot a phony a mile off, including three would-be fiancees in the last year!

    Regarding men, I have instilled in them the ability to judge character, the fortitude to deny emotions for the sake of truth, and the heart to reward men for their earned honor, whether it's little brother for doing what he said he would do, or it's her husband (future tense) for providing his family their needs. In short, they know how scammers work. I showed them. We spent time with such people, so my kids could know the patterns and traits of people best avoided. I further showed them the results of friendships and relationships with such folks, thus lowering the inherent hunger in children to experiment with stupid choices. I didn't keep the world secret from them (as many think about homeschooling parents).

    Hope for the movement? If you speak of some universal brotherhood currently watered-down due to weakness, I don't see any cumulative hope other than a very slow awakening. The only hope I see is on an individual basis. Only through this outlet can we multiply the living examples of real men, and the women who love them. Feminism has been more than a century in the making, and it will not be exited in less time. Have we begun to reverse the pendulum? Debatable. I won't live to see the exit, but you have no idea of the pride in family a man can have toward sons of repute and integrity, unless/until you have as many as you are able, and then live hard by the rules you lay down for them. You will sometimes fail, but then you must show them how to get up and keep going, without emotions to cloud vision of the goal. That goal is to teach their own sons how it's done.
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    Fuck off
    NO! C'mon Haahoo. You are telling everyone else how to walk when you haven't yourself.

    (where's Kim... she'll fix this)

    But I won't because I actually disagree with your crap without an issue.
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    I cannot speak for any movement, but masculinity is alive and well, at least in my home and in my wife and children. What? Masculinity in women, in your home? Consider it the recognition of masculinity, the measure of a man, the extent of integrity. My girls can spot a phony a mile off, including three would-be fiancees in the last year!

    I have instilled in them the ability to judge character, the fortitude to deny emotions for the sake of truth, and the heart to reward men for their earned honor, whether it's little brother for doing what he said he would do, or it's her husband (future tense) for providing his family their needs. In short, they know how scammers work. I showed them. We spent time with such people, so my kids could know the patterns and traits of people best avoided. I further showed them the results of friendships and relationships with such folks, thus lowering the inherent hunger in children to experiment with stupid choices. I didn't keep the world secret from them (as many think about homeschooling parents).

    Hope for the movement? If you speak of some universal brotherhood currently watered-down due to weakness, I don't see any. The only hope I see is on an individual basis. Only through this outlet can we multiply the living examples of real men, and the women who love them. Feminism has been more than a century in the making, and it will not be exited in less time. I won't be here to see it, but you have no idea of the pride in family a man can have toward sons of repute and integrity, unless/until you have all that you are able.
    Hey, I do apologise for my argument getting in the way of a fine subject. What you have written here is pretty special in my eyes. It is fine TBH
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    Sooo, I have to go for now and for a few weeks to 2 months. Please stay Haahoo defending the fort from women like me. Men seriously need it.

    And umm, make sure you work with the others to become stronger. I think their might be a few feminists on the way. If not I will come back and I am relying on you to teach men to attack rather than defend. lol
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    Well said, haahoo. Feminist input = NULL.

    Another MRA golden rule.

    I believe the best approach for folk who want to get the results to be..
    I think all of the six above points are very good.

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    i agree with you HaaHoo


    Julie--i second the statement--"fuck off"

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    The first coherent thing Julie writes in months and it's an insult.
    SUPPORT THE POLICE!

    Kick your own ass.

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    i agree with you HaaHoo


    Julie--i second the statement--"fuck off"


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    I will stay committed to the ideals shared by a few of the wise elements in the movement and work from there..

    I believe the best approach for folk who want to get the results to be..

    1. Retreat from the system..

    Strikes, tax avoidance, freedom from wage slavery and feeding the state parasites..

    Avoidance of the family courts, total..

    2. Inconviencing the system..

    Direct actions, pestering and maintaining pressure on those in power, demo's etc..

    3. Promotion of the idea of male headship in families, with all the duties and responsibilities that entails.. Abandonment of the utopian folly of "equality"..

    4. Creation of sub-cultures that allow the above ideas to be enjoyable and social activities..

    5. Maintaining contact and good communications with other like-minded folk..

    6. Consideration and assimiliation of the ways and methods of the effective groups in society that seem less prone to the problems we suffer, largely, religious groups..

    Have fun thinking of what you folk need to do..

    alright--but how do u get the word out and even more so-how do u get ppl to act?

    (not "line em up for jail" stunts)..
    u forgot--slow and deliberate attention seekers who are intent on suicide and are showing nothing but surrender to the enemy---even though i was at that point myself-i came back swinging with a vengeance and can now only imagine why such a silly thought once crossed my mind in the first place--after a few days no one will care after u are gone anyways

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    The first coherent thing Julie writes in months and it's an insult.

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    Hey you!!!! Don't laugh about this. I am really pissed.

    With all the shit men say I have ended up trying to fix the problem.

    Don't you think these intelligent idiots could be fixing it themselves without people like you, me, Travis A. Ramirez and Tera? We are the ones who turned off, we are the ones who already figured this was shit along time ago.

    These others have all their fancy words and fancy degrees on the wall. And yet somehow we have to clean up their mess.

    I am NOT happy.
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