The most dangerous video on the planet

**John Dias** · 4th-December-2008

From here:

This is exactly what Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) is all about.

Transcript below:

The Matrix is one of the greatest metaphors ever. Machines invented to make human life easier end up enslaving humanity - this is the most common theme in dystopian science fiction.

Why is this fear so universal - so compelling? Is it because we really believe that our toaster and our notebook will end up as our mechanical overlords?

Of course not.

This is not a future that we fear, but a past that we are already living.

Supposedly, governments were invented to make human life easier and safer, but governments always end up enslaving humanity.

That which we create to "serve" us ends up ruling us.

The US government "by and for the people" now imprisons millions, takes half the national income by force, over-regulates, punishes, tortures, slaughters foreigners, invades countries, overthrows governments, imposes 700 imperialistic bases overseas, inflates the currency, and crushes future generations with massive debts.

That which we create to "serve" us ends up ruling us.

The problem with the "state as servant" thesis is that it is historically completely false, both empirically and logically.

The idea that states were voluntarily invented by citizens to enhance their own security is utterly untrue.

Before governments, in tribal times, human beings could only produce what they consumed -- there was no excess production of food or other resources. Thus, there was no point owning slaves, because the slave could not produce any excess that could be stolen by the master.

If a horse pulling a plow can only produce enough additional food to feed the horse, there is no point hunting, capturing and breaking in a horse.

However, when agricultural improvements allowed for the creation of excess crops, suddenly it became highly advantageous to own human beings.

When cows began to provide excess milk and meat, owning cows became worthwhile.

The earliest governments and empires were in fact a ruling class of slave hunters, who understood that because human beings could produce more than they consumed, they were worth hunting, capturing, breaking in - and owning.

The earliest Egyptian and Chinese empires were in reality human farms, where people were hunted, captured, domesticated and owned like any other form of livestock. Due to technological and methodological improvements, the slaves produced enough excess that the labor involved in capturing and keeping them represented only a small subset of their total productivity. The ruling class - the farmers - kept a large portion of that excess, while handing out gifts and payments to the brutalizing class - the police, slave hunters, and general sadists - and the propagandizing class - the priests, intellectuals, and artists.

This situation continued for thousands of years, until the 16-17th centuries, when again massive improvements in agricultural organization and technology created the second wave of excess productivity. The enclosure movement re-organized and consolidated farmland, resulting in 5-10 times more crops, creating a new class of industrial workers, displaced from the country and huddling in the new cities.

This enormous agricultural excess was the basis of the capital that drove the industrial revolution.

The Industrial Revolution did not arise because the ruling class wanted to free their serfs, but rather because they realized how additional "liberties" could make their livestock astoundingly more productive.

When cows are placed in very confining stalls, they beat their heads against the walls, resulting in injuries and infections. Thus farmers now give them more room -- not because they want to set their cows free, but rather because they want greater productivity and lower costs.

The next stop after "free range" is not "freedom."

The rise of state capitalism in the 19th century was actually the rise of "free range serfdom."

Additional liberties were granted to the human livestock not with the goal of setting them free, but rather with the goal of increasing their productivity.

Of course, intellectuals, artists and priests were - and are - well paid to conceal this reality.

The great problem of modern human livestock ownership is the challenge of "enthusiasm."

State capitalism only works when the entrepreneurial spirit drives creativity and productivity in the economy.

However, excess productivity always creates a larger state, and swells the ruling classes and their dependents, which eats into the motivation for additional productivity. Taxes and regulations rise, state debt (future farming) increases, and living standards slow and decay.

Depression and despair began to spread, as the reality of being owned sets in for the general population.

The solution to this is additional propaganda, antidepressant medications, superstition, wars, moral campaigns of every kind, the creation of "enemies," the inculcation of patriotism, collective fears, paranoia about "outsiders" and "immigrants," and so on.

It is essential to understand the reality of the world.

When you look at a map of the world, you are not looking at countries, but farms.

You are allowed certain liberties - limited property ownership, movement rights, freedom of association and occupation - not because your government approves of these rights in principle - since it constantly violates them - but rather because "free range livestock" is so much cheaper to own and so more productive.

It is important to understand the reality of ideologies.

State capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism, democracy - these are all livestock management approaches.

Some work well for long periods - state capitalism - and some work very badly - communism.

They all fail eventually, because it is immoral and irrational to treat human beings as livestock.

The recent growth of "freedom" in China, India and Asia is occurring because the local state farmers have upgraded their livestock management practices. They have recognized that putting the cows in a larger stall provides the rulers more milk and meat.

Rulers have also recognized that if they prevent you from fleeing the farm, you will become depressed, inert and unproductive. A serf is the most productive when he imagines he is free. Thus your rulers must provide you the illusion of freedom in order to harvest you most effectively.

Thus you are "allowed" to leave - but never to real freedom, only to another farm, because the whole world is a farm. They will prevent you from taking a lot of money, they will bury you in endless paperwork, they will restrict your right to work -- but you are "free" to leave. Due to these difficulties, very few people do leave, but the illusion of mobility is maintained. If only 1 out of 1,000 cows escapes, but the illusion of escaping significantly raises the productivity of the remaining 999, it remains a net gain for the farmer.

You are also kept on the farm through licensing. The most productive livestock are the professionals, so the rulers fit them with an electronic dog collar called a "license," which only allows them to practice their trade on their own farm.

To further create the illusion of freedom, in certain farms, the livestock are allowed to choose between a few farmers that the investors present. At best, they are given minor choices in how they are managed. They are never given the choice to shut down the farm, and be truly free.

Government schools are indoctrination pens for livestock. They train children to "love" the farm, and to fear true freedom and independence, and to attack anyone who questions the brutal reality of human ownership. Furthermore, they create jobs for the intellectuals that state propaganda so relies on.

The ridiculous contradictions of statism -- like religion -- can only be sustained through endless propaganda inflicted upon helpless children.

The idea that democracy and some sort of "social contract" justifies the brutal exercise of violent power over billions is patently ridiculous.

If you say to a slave that his ancestors "chose" slavery, and therefore he is bound by their decisions, he will simply say:

"If slavery is a choice, then I choose not to be a slave."

This is the most frightening statement for the ruling classes, which is why they train their slaves to attack anyone who dares speak it.

Statism is not a philosophy.

Statism does not originate from historical evidence or rational principles.

Statism is an ex post facto justification for human ownership.

Statism is an excuse for violence.

Statism is an ideology, and all ideologies are variations on human livestock management practices.

Religion is pimped-out superstition, designed to drug children with fears that they will endlessly pay to have "alleviated."

Nationalism is pimped-out bigotry, designed to provoke a Stockholm Syndrome in the livestock.

The opposite of superstition is not another superstition, but the truth.

The opposite of ideology is not a different ideology, but clear evidence and rational principles.

The opposite of superstition and ideology - of statism - is philosophy.

Reason and courage will set us free.

You do not have to be livestock.

Take the red pill.

Wake up.

**TheOldOligarch** · 4th-December-2008

To be honest I think he's talking mostly crap, like when people say ''employment is paid slavery''. Well of course it is, but getting paid is what separates employment from slavery. That's like saying sex is just consensual rape.

He doesnt actually offer any alternatives, because there obviously aren't any; where there is no state, one will arise. He also ignores the use of force on the part of the common man to claim greater freedom. Was Parliament formed because King Charles thought he could get more work out of freer people? No, it was because he lost the civil war.

**haahoo** · 5th-December-2008

Very good, I like it when people think like I do!!

Unfortunately, most people prefer to act like farm animals..

So its inevitable that they will be treated as such..

To think that being paid a wage makes a person less of a slave, is to have failed to see the crucial point of this video.

The reason the slaves are paid wages and given more "freedom" (to choose their master) is because it is cheaper and more productive to give the slaves the illusion of freedom, though in reality, there is no escape..

In the UK, it is estimated that two thirds of families are directly dependant on state resources for survival, (even though most parents are employed) but of course this is still cheaper than keeping the slaves, homing and feeding them etc on work premises..

**MadShangi** · 5th-December-2008

Quote from John Dias

From here:

YouTube - True News 13: Statism is Dead - Part 3 - The Matrix

This is exactly what Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) is all about.

Transcript below:

The Matrix is one of the greatest metaphors ever. Machines invented to make human life easier end up enslaving humanity - this is the most common theme in dystopian science fiction.

Why is this fear so universal - so compelling? Is it because we really believe that our toaster and our notebook will end up as our mechanical overlords?

Of course not.

This is not a future that we fear, but a past that we are already living.

Supposedly, governments were invented to make human life easier and safer, but governments always end up enslaving humanity.

That which we create to "serve" us ends up ruling us.

The US government "by and for the people" now imprisons millions, takes half the national income by force, over-regulates, punishes, tortures, slaughters foreigners, invades countries, overthrows governments, imposes 700 imperialistic bases overseas, inflates the currency, and crushes future generations with massive debts.

That which we create to "serve" us ends up ruling us.

The problem with the "state as servant" thesis is that it is historically completely false, both empirically and logically.

The idea that states were voluntarily invented by citizens to enhance their own security is utterly untrue.

Before governments, in tribal times, human beings could only produce what they consumed -- there was no excess production of food or other resources. Thus, there was no point owning slaves, because the slave could not produce any excess that could be stolen by the master.

If a horse pulling a plow can only produce enough additional food to feed the horse, there is no point hunting, capturing and breaking in a horse.

However, when agricultural improvements allowed for the creation of excess crops, suddenly it became highly advantageous to own human beings.

When cows began to provide excess milk and meat, owning cows became worthwhile.

The earliest governments and empires were in fact a ruling class of slave hunters, who understood that because human beings could produce more than they consumed, they were worth hunting, capturing, breaking in - and owning.

The earliest Egyptian and Chinese empires were in reality human farms, where people were hunted, captured, domesticated and owned like any other form of livestock. Due to technological and methodological improvements, the slaves produced enough excess that the labor involved in capturing and keeping them represented only a small subset of their total productivity. The ruling class - the farmers - kept a large portion of that excess, while handing out gifts and payments to the brutalizing class - the police, slave hunters, and general sadists - and the propagandizing class - the priests, intellectuals, and artists.

This situation continued for thousands of years, until the 16-17th centuries, when again massive improvements in agricultural organization and technology created the second wave of excess productivity. The enclosure movement re-organized and consolidated farmland, resulting in 5-10 times more crops, creating a new class of industrial workers, displaced from the country and huddling in the new cities.

This enormous agricultural excess was the basis of the capital that drove the industrial revolution.

The Industrial Revolution did not arise because the ruling class wanted to free their serfs, but rather because they realized how additional "liberties" could make their livestock astoundingly more productive.

When cows are placed in very confining stalls, they beat their heads against the walls, resulting in injuries and infections. Thus farmers now give them more room -- not because they want to set their cows free, but rather because they want greater productivity and lower costs.

The next stop after "free range" is not "freedom."

The rise of state capitalism in the 19th century was actually the rise of "free range serfdom."

Additional liberties were granted to the human livestock not with the goal of setting them free, but rather with the goal of increasing their productivity.

Of course, intellectuals, artists and priests were - and are - well paid to conceal this reality.

The great problem of modern human livestock ownership is the challenge of "enthusiasm."

State capitalism only works when the entrepreneurial spirit drives creativity and productivity in the economy.

However, excess productivity always creates a larger state, and swells the ruling classes and their dependents, which eats into the motivation for additional productivity. Taxes and regulations rise, state debt (future farming) increases, and living standards slow and decay.

Depression and despair began to spread, as the reality of being owned sets in for the general population.

The solution to this is additional propaganda, antidepressant medications, superstition, wars, moral campaigns of every kind, the creation of "enemies," the inculcation of patriotism, collective fears, paranoia about "outsiders" and "immigrants," and so on.

It is essential to understand the reality of the world.

When you look at a map of the world, you are not looking at countries, but farms.

You are allowed certain liberties - limited property ownership, movement rights, freedom of association and occupation - not because your government approves of these rights in principle - since it constantly violates them - but rather because "free range livestock" is so much cheaper to own and so more productive.

It is important to understand the reality of ideologies.

State capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism, democracy - these are all livestock management approaches.

Some work well for long periods - state capitalism - and some work very badly - communism.

They all fail eventually, because it is immoral and irrational to treat human beings as livestock.

The recent growth of "freedom" in China, India and Asia is occurring because the local state farmers have upgraded their livestock management practices. They have recognized that putting the cows in a larger stall provides the rulers more milk and meat.

Rulers have also recognized that if they prevent you from fleeing the farm, you will become depressed, inert and unproductive. A serf is the most productive when he imagines he is free. Thus your rulers must provide you the illusion of freedom in order to harvest you most effectively.

Thus you are "allowed" to leave - but never to real freedom, only to another farm, because the whole world is a farm. They will prevent you from taking a lot of money, they will bury you in endless paperwork, they will restrict your right to work -- but you are "free" to leave. Due to these difficulties, very few people do leave, but the illusion of mobility is maintained. If only 1 out of 1,000 cows escapes, but the illusion of escaping significantly raises the productivity of the remaining 999, it remains a net gain for the farmer.

You are also kept on the farm through licensing. The most productive livestock are the professionals, so the rulers fit them with an electronic dog collar called a "license," which only allows them to practice their trade on their own farm.

To further create the illusion of freedom, in certain farms, the livestock are allowed to choose between a few farmers that the investors present. At best, they are given minor choices in how they are managed. They are never given the choice to shut down the farm, and be truly free.

Government schools are indoctrination pens for livestock. They train children to "love" the farm, and to fear true freedom and independence, and to attack anyone who questions the brutal reality of human ownership. Furthermore, they create jobs for the intellectuals that state propaganda so relies on.

The ridiculous contradictions of statism -- like religion -- can only be sustained through endless propaganda inflicted upon helpless children.

The idea that democracy and some sort of "social contract" justifies the brutal exercise of violent power over billions is patently ridiculous.

If you say to a slave that his ancestors "chose" slavery, and therefore he is bound by their decisions, he will simply say:

"If slavery is a choice, then I choose not to be a slave."

This is the most frightening statement for the ruling classes, which is why they train their slaves to attack anyone who dares speak it.

Statism is not a philosophy.

Statism does not originate from historical evidence or rational principles.

Statism is an ex post facto justification for human ownership.

Statism is an excuse for violence.

Statism is an ideology, and all ideologies are variations on human livestock management practices.

Religion is pimped-out superstition, designed to drug children with fears that they will endlessly pay to have "alleviated."

Nationalism is pimped-out bigotry, designed to provoke a Stockholm Syndrome in the livestock.

The opposite of superstition is not another superstition, but the truth.

The opposite of ideology is not a different ideology, but clear evidence and rational principles.

The opposite of superstition and ideology - of statism - is philosophy.

Reason and courage will set us free.

You do not have to be livestock.

Take the red pill.

Wake up.

That was a very good video. Thank you for posting this.

**haahoo** · 5th-December-2008

One area where I would take issue with this video is the statement that communism worked very badly whereas state capitalism worked much better..

If this is judged on the basis of how much a system can deplete its own resources and fuck up the planet to feed the consumer greed of the "farmed" fuckwits then sure..

But since on the basis of many "nationwide" parameters, Communist Russia was neck and neck, or even ahead of the US in some pretty critical areas, (rocket science and some medical areas etc...)

It is hard to see why such a statement as "worked badly" is being made?

Did not the Communist countries come from total shit to Superpower status in a brief period of time?

Has not Russia lost that status as fast as it lost its Communist philosophy?

Are the Shitizens of capitalism really happier or better off?

**Timocrat** · 6th-December-2008

Excellent find John. I have been adding a lot of Stephan's work to something I'm doing, and he has one hell of a lot to add to the conversation.

Problems he states in some of his videos:

1. Agnostic (not sure on God) doesn't mean one believes in agnosticism (we can now nothing for certain). He connects the 2 because he is a sworn atheist. He takes agnosticism apart the same way as I do deconstructionism (much better in fact) and is exactly right on their counter productive thinking.

2. For a man who doesn't like agnosticism he uses the same deconstructionism when he looks at religion.

3. He talks of pacifism and gives no support for it, as some else here states he gives few of his ideas to fix things. I haven't read his free books yet, and they may contain his ways to fix things. So he may not have another deconstructionist trait in not giving solutions and only attacking.

His ideas on business are rock solid and there we see eye-to-eye. As for statism he is right on the mark too, and is a good man to learn from why government is not the solutions to our problems, it "is" the problem.

**Stan** · 6th-December-2008

Quote from Billy

Putin paid off Russias debt to the Rothchild bankers.
Saying they need them no more. Insulting to the Rothchild and he kicked many Zionist out. Putin claimed he would make Russia one of the most wealthiest countries. Usary is Slavery.

Look at the sham going on in the USA.

Our national debt is what 11 trillion?

And we are planning to overspend the budget on normal stuff next year by 1.5 trillion.

So 700 billion gets approved for the mortgage mess....only now it looks more like another 7 trillion totalled out.

And the US car companies are looking for more handouts...by next year that could be another 125 billion...I find it amazing that on the one had some of the SAME irresponsible / criminal politicians that created the banking mess are lecturing the car company executives about good business practices.

Obama wants to toss in another 500 Billion to a Trillion to act as a stimulus. He also wants to add new programs and expand existing ones.

Social security and senior health care are about to explode any year now.

If you add all this up...all or most of a person's tax liability just goes to service the debt.

Technically the US went bankrupt only it can still keep going since if we print more money or type in more numbers on a computer screen other folks will still accept it. Like China for example.

If we did not have all this crushing debt...we'd be much better off and with brighter prospects for the future.

I mean with all this debt to pay off...we need to have very high taxes for the foreseeable future.

It's like we need to drive a rusty old used car while making payments on two loaded up Mercedes.

If Putin has or will cut off or down any excess loans Russia has to pay...they truly will gain greatly in power around the world. And they have their own oil, and no greenies blocking all drilling.

**Stan** · 6th-December-2008

Quote from Billy

english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/22-08-2006/84038-paris-club-0

My guess is the USA still sends billions to Russia to help them out. I doubt they will pay us off. We can write it off and borrow more from Zionist. We are so inslaved to Zionist bankers we will never be free.

We need to do what Kenedy done and print our own money. Kick those bankers to the curb. Oh but that's what got him killed.

Bankers are begging for US assistance and saying forget GM and Chrysler. We are a financial mess. The Zionist oil companies realized they are killing us so they finally drop gas prices.
$1.55 here now and it was $3.95.

Gas is supposed to hit around 1.00 or less next year!!?? Guess what: If that can last the liberals will just tack on more taxation. Since it kinda defeats all these green cars that they want to push.

I am not up to speed on "Zionist Banker".

But I do know that the Federal Reserve which I thought was part of the USA is actually private and they do their own thing according to their own agenda. Is the Federal Reserve the ZBs?

**Stan** · 6th-December-2008

In the USA: 1 in 10 homeowners behind on mortgage payments, or in foreclosure... and this will go up...

USA: Chinese property hunters to raid USA; Steep price falls attract investors... Fire sale?

USA: Auto Company bailout could be tied to gov't-run overhaul... GM / FORD / Chrysler to be Gov't run by liberals?

USA: California may be out of cash in February...

Many similar stories are out there...

**haahoo** · 27th-February-2009

answers some current questions here!

**Celtic Druid** · 28th-February-2009

Human livestock? Yes.

An interesting piece indeed.

When I first saw the title of the thread, I thought, is it "two girls, one cup?" No. Surely not.

**haahoo** · 28th-February-2009

Haha! The magnitude of the significance of this video is probably something that few folk would want to seriously think on..

The implications are immense..

The question that hangs at the end is..

What should we do?

What can we do?

Or would we rather continue as livestock and make the remarks that I hear so often..

"What is your ambition in life?"

"Oh, well, I just want to be happy!.."

Take the happy pills forever, switch the mind off, serve the slavemasters..?

And have your "free time" monitored, approved, checked, and taxed!

By the way, where is that stalwart Gentleman John Dias?

Whats he up to these days?

**Celtic Druid** · 1st-March-2009

Quote from haahoo

By the way, where is that stalwart Gentleman John Dias?

Whats he up to these days?

His profile says he's a "Retired Administrator?" Maybe he chose to move onto other things without a fuss.

Certainly in some of his last posts he spoke of setting up a men's group in his resident city, things seemed to be moving on progressively there. I wish him the very best, he's given a great deal to AM and the men's movement as a whole.

I noticed his rep now registers at zero. I'm sure this is just a technical consequence of Karl merely adjusting his account - given his departure. If this could be remedied and John's rightful rep count reinstated for posterity?

We'll look forward to him maybe logging in from time to time.

**Percy** · 1st-March-2009

An interesting perspective. Or is it?

An interpretation more like.

It is taking Animal Farm to its ultimate conclusion.

So, whose idea was this 'Human Being' bizzo anyway?

How else could large scale organisation have occured/evolved?

To what end is all this farming of human livestock by human farmers?

What is missing from this account?