Quote from westminster

Well then, it seems that their responses are entirely in character for what you intend for this forum. In this case, I don't understand why Yan Yan and Brad are here.

I'm really quite certain it is not your place to dictate who belongs and who doesn't. I also think you are trying to twist the context of my post.

I am stating:
This board is not pro-misogyny.
You appear to be pro-misogyny.
I do not wish for dissention.
You appear to want dissention, either at this board or between men & women in general.
This board is a venting area for likeminded men and women (fed up of misandry & feminism's anti-male stance in society), the 'likemindedness' is really what dictates who stays & who goes, not one individual*.

Please, don't try to put words in my mouth. What I say is purely my opinion and little else.

*exceptions to members with Admin access, or a vote by moderators & admin access members.

But Karl, you are putting words into my mouth. You are twisting the meaning of what I have said. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Quote from westminster

Yes, I do think that women and men have a duty to procreate.

Yes I know. So my responce was correct, thanks for clearing that up.

Yes, I do think that England will no longer be England, if it isn't English.

Yes I know, what you think, but its off topic.

No, I don't think that is "Over the Top;" I think it is common sense.

By O/T i meant Off topic not Over the top (OTT)

I'm not going to entertain an argument with this level of mentality.

Quote from karl

This board is a venting area for likeminded men and women (fed up of misandry & feminism's anti-male stance in society), the 'likemindedness' is really what dictates who stays & who goes, not one individual*.

And to be fair (I think you do yourself an injustice here, Karl) AFAIK anyone is welcome, hence the flipside board, just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

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I'm not going to entertain an argument with this level of mentality.

I'm not surprised. Someone who thinks they can read my mind, certainly won't be able to find the humility to admit, when they are wrong. Particularly, when they've already stuck their neck out.

Quote from Glitz

Yes I know. So my responce was correct, thats for clearing that up.



Yes I know, what you think, but its off topic.



By O/T i meant Off topic not Over the top (OTT)

Well, in any case, your response seemed inflammatory to me.

In regards to being on topic, certainly that is debatable.

And you've misspelled response.

Quote from westminster

Well, in any case, your response seemed inflammatory to me.

I understood your position to be that women should stay at home and do housework and make babies. If this not correct, please let me know.

In regards to being on topic, certainly that is debatable.

I fail to see how your racism is connected to misandry.

And you've misspelled response.

I cant spell, and must have forgot to spell check that one. Not sure why its important, but thanks anyway.

Quote from Glitz

I understood your position to be that women should stay at home and do housework and make babies. If this not correct, please let me know.


I fail to see how your racism is connected to misandry.


I cant spell, and must have forgot to spell check that one. Not sure why its important, but thanks anyway.

You seek Justice for Men. So, you must have a Moral Basis. What is your moral basis for defending men?

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You seek Justice for Men. So, you must have a Moral Basis. What is your moral basis for defending men?

Not a 100% sure I understand your question but will try to answer..

I believe a person should be treated based on what type of personality they are are they honest?, hard working?, criminal?.

I dont believe an assumption should be made about someone just because of their gender, race or sexual orientation. We are all human and I believe inequality is only in the choices we make.

I believe men are discriminated against, negative assumptions are made about men and positive assumptions are made about women.

I believe this is wrong, we are not judged on our own talents our conduct, but on what sex organs we have.

I believe it is morally wrong to treat someone favorably/unfavourably based on an assumption that we have made without finding if it true or not.

Quote from Glitz

Not a 100% sure I understand your question but will try to answer..

I believe a person should be treated based on what type of personality they are are they honest?, hard working?, criminal?.

I dont believe an assumption should be made about someone just because of their gender, race or sexual orientation. We are all human and I believe inequality is only in the choices we make.

I believe men are discriminated against, negative assumptions are made about men and positive assumptions are made about women.

I believe this is wrong, we are not judged on our own talents our conduct, but on what sex organs we have.

I believe it is morally wrong to treat someone favorably/unfavourably based on an assumption that we have made without finding if it true or not.

What your explaining is your formula, for determining what is FAIR and what isn't fair. We disagree on the formula.

Your Moral Basis is, how you determine what is right and wrong. You say, that it is WRONG, to treat anyone unfairly. Why is it wrong to do that and/or how do you know that it is wrong to do that?

Quote from westminster

What your explaining is your formula, for determining what is FAIR and what isn't fair. We disagree on the formula.
Your Moral Basis is, how you determine what is right and wrong. You say, that it is WRONG, to treat anyone unfairly. Why is it wrong to do that and/or how do you know that it is wrong to do that?

A good point to take note of there, westminster. However, if we treat people unfairly based on various elements, especially those outside a persons' control, does that not make us as bad as the feminists?

This is all getting a bit silly.
The battle of gender supremacy will never be won.
As soon as one side or the other takes their bat home, the group becomes extinct.
I have sympathy for both sides since I'm probably a closet male-supremacist who loves women.
Men get things done. They build civilizations and enact laws, sometimes to their own cost. If they're motivated they'll do it. If they're not motivated they can just as much fun hunting, or drinking with their fellow-tribesmen.
That's a man's right to choose.

The groundswell of negative feeling among some young western men is not a normal thing. It's an instinctive reaction to the stupid notion of 'ekwalitee' which turns out to be nothing of the kind. But the explosion of men's boards in the last few years demonstrates that the tide is turning.

Entering into debate about 'true equality' seems a hiding to nothing. New definitions of 'fair' could keep philosophers busy for the next thousand years. The old religions were built on pragmatism - something in it for everybody.

Solely from a man's point of view, I would say that there are two kinds of women. Those that can be successfully managed and those that can't.

Why is it wrong to treat anyone unfairly?