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    Sesame Street yanks controversial Katy Perry duet with Elmo on Yahoo! Canada Lifestyle

    YouTube - Katy Perry duets with Elmo on Sesame Street!

    I'm sorry but if women can't see the blatant problem with this video, our society is in need of some serious fvcking help. I mean the first thing I noticed about this video is her boobs are hanging out and doing a madonna type thing with the cones..... It looks to me as if she is trying to chase Elmo around and screw him. The majority of the comments left are about how we shouldn't judge her and that people are going overboard... In this arena I feel it is feminism's creation coming back to haunt them. I mean seriously... christ... sesame street? At one point they were going to announce that ernie and bert were gay... I mean wtf... now Katy Perry is influencing kids to let their boobs hangout... People are stating that there is much worse on TV and that this is nothing to worry about. I would reply that I am in agreement and that the media as a whole is becoming way over sexualized. I used to think Japan was sex obsessed but North America has far surpassed it. We are probably the country with the most sex on TV and the least sex happening in the bedroom where it belongs (behind closed doors). There may have been more 'revealing' clothes on the muppet show, but that was a show aimed at adults not kids. Quite a few comments there are trying to equate sex on TV with violence on TV and I would say the two have nothing to do with each other. Jim Henson's Fraggle Rock, a show aimed at children, was 'violent' by definition but was NEVER sexualized in any way shape or form. It had a lot of good positive messages to bring to kids. What happened?

    One might rebut that the cartoons from the 50s,60s,70s,80s... many of the 'super heroes' wore things like this. I would argue that the message wasn't the same and no one really took any notice of wonder woman or she-ra because there was never any reference or allusion to the heroes having sex.

    My question to sesame street is why they chose NOT to make her into a puppet? Also who the fvck was in charge of costumes and couldn't they have selected something less revealing? I mean the costume is clearly designed to draw attention to the cleavage. If you ask me her clothes are just raunchy and I'm willing to bet the Hollywood agenda has a lot to do with this. Well anyway, that's my rant for tonight.

    I'm seriously considering raising my children in another country or on a farm in the middle of nowhere without a TV.
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    ive seen this a few times, its creepy. I dont know what they were thinking. I dont think the whole episode needed to be tossed out (unless she was dressed like that the whole time) sesame street always has real guests on so its not surprising she wasnt a puppet. One argument heard was the "childhood innosence" argument where kids wouldnt understand the sexual nature of it. Considering all the extensive dirty jokes in other older kids shows i suppose they are right to an extent but this is too much

    but personally i am more offended by the fact she is singing than anything else
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    but personally i am more offended by the fact she is singing than anything else
    I second that.
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    Sesame Street yanks controversial Katy Perry duet with Elmo on Yahoo! Canada Lifestyle

    YouTube - Katy Perry duets with Elmo on Sesame Street!

    I'm sorry but if women can't see the blatant problem with this video, our society is in need of some serious fvcking help. I mean the first thing I noticed about this video is her boobs are hanging out and doing a madonna type thing with the cones..... It looks to me as if she is trying to chase Elmo around and screw him. The majority of the comments left are about how we shouldn't judge her and that people are going overboard... In this arena I feel it is feminism's creation coming back to haunt them. I mean seriously... christ... sesame street? At one point they were going to announce that ernie and bert were gay... I mean wtf... now Katy Perry is influencing kids to let their boobs hangout... People are stating that there is much worse on TV and that this is nothing to worry about. I would reply that I am in agreement and that the media as a whole is becoming way over sexualized. I used to think Japan was sex obsessed but North America has far surpassed it. We are probably the country with the most sex on TV and the least sex happening in the bedroom where it belongs (behind closed doors). There may have been more 'revealing' clothes on the muppet show, but that was a show aimed at adults not kids. Quite a few comments there are trying to equate sex on TV with violence on TV and I would say the two have nothing to do with each other. Jim Henson's Fraggle Rock, a show aimed at children, was 'violent' by definition but was NEVER sexualized in any way shape or form. It had a lot of good positive messages to bring to kids. What happened?

    One might rebut that the cartoons from the 50s,60s,70s,80s... many of the 'super heroes' wore things like this. I would argue that the message wasn't the same and no one really took any notice of wonder woman or she-ra because there was never any reference or allusion to the heroes having sex.

    My question to sesame street is why they chose NOT to make her into a puppet? Also who the fvck was in charge of costumes and couldn't they have selected something less revealing? I mean the costume is clearly designed to draw attention to the cleavage. If you ask me her clothes are just raunchy and I'm willing to bet the Hollywood agenda has a lot to do with this. Well anyway, that's my rant for tonight.

    I'm seriously considering raising my children in another country or on a farm in the middle of nowhere without a TV.
    I can't fault you for what you say in this post Bro and I do agree with you that children's shows in the western/femanazi nations has become way to sexualized, I remember the cartoons/children's shows of the 70/80's that did not have an ovrent sexual/feminazai tone to them, now a days children's shows are nothing but mass indocranation into the western femanazi/sex culture and the revionests have been bussy alter the old cartoons and childrens shows of the 60/70/80's to suit their twisted perpourses.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Sesame Street yanks controversial Katy Perry duet with Elmo on Yahoo! Canada Lifestyle

    YouTube - Katy Perry duets with Elmo on Sesame Street!

    I'm sorry but if women can't see the blatant problem with this video, our society is in need of some serious fvcking help. I mean the first thing I noticed about this video is her boobs are hanging out and doing a madonna type thing with the cones..... It looks to me as if she is trying to chase Elmo around and screw him. The majority of the comments left are about how we shouldn't judge her and that people are going overboard...
    Tell me, was that episode of Sesame Street brought to you by the letters T and A?

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    Tell me, was that episode of Sesame Street brought to you by the letters T and A?
    ...and the number 2.

    (in the voice of the count) "Two boobies, AH, AH, AH AH, "
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    I remember a time when Sesame Street helped kids learn how to read. Now it's been bastardized by the cheap, hyper sexual, media empire!

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    This reminds me of something I discovered whilst talking to a friend in the US. I remarked how I had watched a televised screening of a rather violent Paul Verhoeven film; saying it seemed strange to me that although shown after ten o'clock it was nevertheless subjected to some censorship cuts which removed the more extreme scenes: a close-up of a man having his brains blown out, one where a man is physically ripped into pieces, two people being burnt to the bone with some kind of inflammable chemical and lastly a scene where a predatory insect pierces an ancillary characters skull and sucks out his brain. The film is a satire, and one of the satirical elements Verhoeven used was to create clips sort of 'films within films,' representing the federal network (the TV in his future) showing ads, propaganda, etc and some of these clips are very violent (a public execution for example) but there is no effort made to avoid or reduce showing such things save in one scene where there is a sexual element and then it is censored, blanked completely. This was an attempt by him to illustrate the peculiar attitude Americans have which revels in graphic violence but recoils from nudity. The irony is when this film was shown on US TV (this I learned talking to my friend) every piece of violence I mentioned above was shown in full and the only cuts were of two scenes where one can see topless women.

    This attitude seems mighty odd to me. I should note, though, I don't agree with any form of censorship whether used for sex, violence or anything else, but I'll agree certainly there is nothing of censorship in simply creating age-appropriate material. I don't see this however as a huge issue and I know someone may say 'You don't have kids,' perhaps, it's a fair remark, but I would like to clarify and say, quite simply, that her outfit would not mean allot to a child. Seeing cleavage is in no way psychologically damaging, and acting like it is makes you seem dangerously unhinged with regard to extreme prudishness, but of course that does not mean one cannot criticize her obviously adult wardrobe choices when, after all, she knew this was a children's show and no doubt also is well aware of the social clime in the US and that such an act would court disapproval.

    The people defending her are doing it only, I think, due to the preconceived stereotypes they have about the people who don't approve, and I think they should take themselves out of the discussion whether they have children or not, as even if one does approve of something for their children it gives them no right to impose that standard onto others by way of arbitrating over what they can and cannot object to with regard to their children. I don't think the episode should be pulled (if it upsets you don't watch it) but she could apologize to the parents she has upset, not because of what she did but because she did it without regard for the people she knew would find it unacceptable, and the show's creators could put some measure in place to ensure guests in future dress more modestly and appropriately.

    Refusing to acknowledge the desires and laughing at the social mores of the very people who pay their wages is a very common thing in the entertainment industry; actors and other figures constantly patronizing normal people for their politics and attitudes when they themselves, collectively, can barely pull-together enough moral conviction or depth of character to rival a tapeworm is one of the biggest hypocrisies in the US.

    Here is a selection of some of DWB's finer rants against celebrities:

    YouTube - Celebrities diss Martin Luther King (All Celebs)

    YouTube - Lindsey Lohan take 1 (Lindsay Lohan)

    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (Britney Spears & Chris Crocker)

    YouTube - yellow wiggle retires (Yellow Wiggle)

    YouTube - Snoop Doggy Dog is above the law... (Snoop Dog)

    YouTube - Paris Hilton wants a Pardon... (Paris Hilton)

    YouTube - Live Earth Concert... (Live Earth)

    Oprah Winfrey DOESN'T support women... (Oprah)

    YouTube - Wesley Snipes is going to jail... (Celebs Above The Law)

    YouTube - Ellen DeGeneres is WRONG... (Ellen DeGeneres)

    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (Hip Hop Community)

    YouTube - The Emmy Awards... (Emmy Awards)

    YouTube - "Celebs" rally behind Britney Spears... (Celeb Solidarity)


 

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