Interesting facebook chat based from an application's sub-forum

[Marx]

Some bint released a questionaire thingy asking 'how much do you know about men?'

Naturally, to get 100% you simply had to answer with all the negative responses offered (multichoice). I took the 'test' a long time, and left a comment. Just yesterday (my time), a new person began talking on two threads. I'll list them seperately rather than in time order to save confusion and add clarity:

Here's thread #1 (going from where 'my' conversation began)

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Yes, clearly we have a feminist promoting yet more misandry (hatred of men).

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I note that so far no one seems to have noticed the dumbass author of this mockery of an application refers to men as a 'species'... Odd that, I always thought men were one sex of the human species.

It's funny how blatant sexism against men is tolerated by women so well - but you dare tell a joke at women's expense, and suddenly you're a knuckle-dragging neanderthal.

The hypocrisy is typical - and worse, predictable.

I love how men are like "WOMEN KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US" when really, your not all the same. You have the decent men, or the arses that think they rule the world. lol.
You find this quiz disrespectful, and yet your probably the ones who believe that a womans place is in the kitchen? If so, then you must be the type of men that are arses and believe a woman should do everything a man tells her to do.
Luckily my boyfriends not like that, hes respectful to women and treats everyone as equals. The way the world should be.
Stupid differences because of gender, what kind of person came up with the whole "women are not equal to men" crap?
1 guess...
btw. yes women get offended from sexist jokes easier than men, we have to go through a lot more in life than men, its just wrong.

Chloe - that's right, sweetybuns... you just blame men for all the problems in the world and make yourself feel better doing so.

Ahh the life of a manhater, it must feel so cozy & warm.

Yes Im a man hater..so badly a man hater. That's why I said not all men are the same? And that I know that because my boyfriend isn't a complete arse. Fact is, its stupid how women are treated different to men yet your getting all pissy over this stupid quiz!

That's the problem though is women think it only affects them and anything men have to put up with is acceptable. Why they (those women who do) think that sexism against men is acceptable is beyond me. I'm against sexism which affects women AND men, not just half the population. But I keep seeing women, such as you, who promote misinformation and lies pretending that sexism only affects women.

I do not agree with sexism full stop. However, there is a lot more against women than there is men, for example, how women earn less than men. My simple opinion was that it is silly to post that whoever it is, is offended by this group, when they are being sexist to women. Whats the point? no one gets anywhere

Do you realise that women EARN (look up the meaning of that word - they aren't just 'paid' less - they 'earn' less) due to their own choices? Feminists like to pretend that it is discrimination, as you pretend here... but the fact is, women take more time away from work, they take more holiday, more sick-leave, they typically do less hours in a week, they commonly go home earlier and choose to decline overtime when offered.

Just recently, a very influential feminist in the British Government was condemned for her misleading the media & public by the watchdog. She even went as far/low as to tell people that women 'earn' only 40% of what men earned... what she 'forgot' to mention was that she had compared PART-TIME women with FULL TIME men. That is sexism promoted against men by feminist liars who want people to blame men for everything - you know, like you're doing in this thread... then to pretend 'women have it worse' all the time..

Do some research before opening your mouth next time.

Women tend to have more sick leave when it comes to maternity and the fact that yes we do become ill more often then men. Its called the monthlies which do cause horrible pains. They do not choose to go home earlier or choose to decline overtime unless they afford to, as does everyone. I know that most people my age male or female would not decline overtime. its money, why reject? Not only that but work hours are chosen for you by the manager or company. Unless of course you are a manager yourself.
what I WAS saying was that yes there is that "disagreement" with men and women, but the reason we women take so much offence to sexist jokes is probably because they are either vile and disgusting like many I've heard in pubs, or because they feel that it is unfair as women have to put up with child birth, monthly pains ect. But yes men do get offended too. I've just never met a man that has reacted in the same way.

So you're somewhat shocked that men are slowly rising up against the tirade of feminist hate campaigns against men? Well, good. It should be a shock. Perhaps others will start contemplating their words more.

However, as for blaming men for nature's ways (i.e. monthlies) - that's just sad and demonstrative of the feminist victim-mentality complex.

Not shocked. Just have never heard it. But I am intrigued as to why I have never heard it before. I do not agree with sexism and I do not know why anyone puts up with. Sadly, we do live in a sexist world.

Yes, unfortuntely, sexism affects both men & women in differing ways. For example, women got the vote only ten years after men. However, it cost men hundreds of thousands of lives to get their vote - women, it cost one life and a lot of complaining to the government (and a few bomb threats and other acts of civil disobedience). What is peculiar though, is if you read history - you can find this all out for yourself. Yet, if you ask a feminist academic about 'the vote', she will only tell you portions of the history and imply that men could vote for centuries prior to women and it came at no costs - yet it only cost women who had to fight. Conversely and back in reality, the complete opposite is true (and verifiable through historical research). Sadly, the lies that feminists sell - promote hostilties towards men.

It's a similar story with the wage gap and the dreaded 'glass ceiling' (but they never mention the glass cellar, the jobs women do NOT want that are very well paid and adds to the wage gap too).

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Thread #2

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I love how men are like "WOMEN KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US" when really, your not all the same. You have the decent men, or the arses that think they rule the world. lol.
Men, dont be so up yourselves, you dont know anything about women. If you did, some of you might not actually be single sitting on world of warcraft for the rest of your sorry lives . Only the decent ones know us well enough that we let them stay. LOL

Chloe you sweet lady, tell me, did you study feminism or does hating men come naturally to you?

Again like on the other post I think I said "not all men are the same, there are some decent ones" hows that men hating??
Are you just a sexist pig?

Could you elaborate on why you're asking if I'm a sexist pig? How have I demonstrated sexism and swine-like features? Or, is it more likely, that calling any man you happen to disagree with a 'sexist pig' tends to work for you, silencing men into submission with shame tactics?

Oh jesus. I do not go round calling men sexist pigs randomly. Im just simply asking your view. Obviously in a way that offends you. but on this post you cant tell whose for who.
I do not think all men are sexist.
I happen to know more decent men than the ones who walk around checking out young girls and looking for one night stands. which I also think is annoying that that kind of man is portrayed a lot in movies. That is why I hate how the younger generation has become quite sexist. Most young boys are turning into pimps and most young girls are turning into orange faced sluts. not all, but unfortunately its happening.

Well you just moments back asked a man whether he is a 'sexist pig' for no particular reason, aside that you disagree with him. That clearly implies you at the least had the notion cross your mind, otherwise you would not have enquired about his character - not opinion, as you have claimed, untruthfully.

Not at all. Wondering your views.

But you didn't ask my views - you asked of my character.

"Are you a sexist pig?" - is not asking for a person's view.

"What do you think about xyz?" - is asking for a person's view.

"Are you a dumbass?" - is questioning their character/abilities. That is similar to what you asked me.

I was asking whether you were someone who believed a woman's place is in a kitchen or whether you believe we should all be equal. Just putting it in a term like that incase you were one of those jokers who goes round on internet discussion boards who I really dislike.

Well technically, asking someone whether they're sexist isn't just about a woman's place (in the kitchen or in the government) - it's also, and is always ignored by feminists, akin to asking whether the man should be the one who gets up in the dark if a couple hear a noise downstair that requires preventative investigation (i.e. are we being burgled? if so, you - the man - must go investigate as I - the woman - am far too precious and important to risk being harmed).

Adding 'pig' to it simply adds an insult to the term. Feminists of the 60s, 70s and 80s spent a lot of their time calling all men sexist pigs - while ignoring their own sexism, naturally - and other choice phrases, like 'male chauvinist pig' always working at associating the language of insults (pig) with the male sex and other derogatory insults (chauvinist).

So it's fairly understandable, that when a woman who has already issued a few feminist lines of misinformation, promotion of misandry and then followed it with "asking" if a guy is a sexist pig, that he can safely assume - she's likely a feminist with a chip on her shoulder who has digested a lot of feminist hate campaigns against men, and not bothered to do her own research with legitimate historical data.

*sigh* Your clearly not seeing that I am not a feminist. Yes I care about how women are treated, but I also think its unfair how men are treated, like I've repeated several times. I prefer being equal.

I'm seeing the 'claim', absolutely. I also saw, prior to the claim, how you seem to take a delight in the fact that some of the men who responded are clearly pained by the misandry that has been promoted with this 'joke'.

Then, a chap who had posted previously in this thread chimed in with the following:-

@ Chloe

Maybe we wouldn't react like that if it wasn't told that we were all the time. The creator of this app even likes to note her disgust in men when you reach 100% on the stereotypical quiz that has made so many women believe they suddenly know they knew everything.

And just an FYI, there are plenty of decent people who play WoW, some who have even gotten married through the people they've met on there and now live together in real life.

Personally, I'm not one of them and I don't play WoW, but all my life I have had closer friends who were girls then guys and so yes, I do understand you. It's just unfortunate you girls don't see that the complaints you make can be the same we make about you.

The sad part about that first comment is that you make relationships the be all and end all of life. Just because someone isn't dating anyone right now, doesn't make them a pathetic person. Maybe they're in college or uni and having a relationship right now is too much of a distraction against the more important matters of their career.
I'm a writer and it's only natural for me to be an observer of life. The majority of my friends are girls and I've learned a lot from them.

I had an earlier intellectual discussion on this forum that was accepted widely by men and women alike and after about a week, it was promptly taken down and I was kicked off this app. I will also be running a panel at an event on relationships and I was accepted by a woman who was running it and believed I knew enough to be on it.

So, before you get any further into your discussion with Karl, maybe you should re read what you asked him.
And I quote, " Again like on the other post I think I said "not all men are the same, there are some decent ones" hows that men hating??
Are you just a sexist pig?"
The was nothing about anything remotely concerning his view. It was an indirect insult hidden in a question that you provided.

I know enough in what I've read that you're only beating around the bush, when all you should be doing is apologizing for what you clearly think is a misunderstanding, because your insulting question provides apparently everything to do with equality. Despite it saying nothing of the sort.

Excellent post, Steven. Well crafted while civil. Shame the same cannot be said for others.

Steven, sorry I missed your chat earlier - I was in the kitchen, cooking a late dinner (yes, we evil men can cook - a shock to the feminists here, no doubt).

Hey, well I had to say something considering she was only sidestepping the issue at hand and should have just apologized while clarifying what she really meant.

And no worries about it. As for men and food, my father makes a mean pasta and bbq chicken. We aren't all so bad and it's unfortunate that we get a bad rap for it.

The guys I know like that, most of them had a good woman and they broke his heart. That one that got away, we try to replace it, but it is never really the same after.
It's truly unfortunate that we are taught no matter how happy we are, there could always be better. It's the unending vicious cycle of never being satisfied with what you already have.

-_- Im not apologising for anything because I'm not a man hater - I have never even said I hate men or that they are all sexist. I haven't stereotyped them as a whole at all.

My boyfriend can actually cook a very delicious meal, so I know its not unusual for a man to be in the kitchen. My dad cooks lovely meals to. I never said they can't be. Putting words into my mouth? Or just a wrong interpretation. I think you've completely misunderstood anything I've said (no not because your men might I clarify before you go on about that-because I'm not a man hater).

@ Chloe

Look, you're clearly missing something here. It's not even just about you. You may just be an exception, but you don't speak for the mentality of all women because many of them have clearly said the very opposite in even this thread alone.

You have also missed the point of my comment on your name calling question. It did not imply any other question, other than an indirect insult. If you can't understand that, you need to reevaluate the subject you're speaking on.

Asking someone if they are a sexist pig implies nothing of your values upon the question in question.

Also, no one asked you to apologize for being a man hater - whether you are or you're not. I said you should apologize for your remark, considering what I mentioned just above.

Steven, I think it's a lost cause mate... I don't think she can grasp the concept of what we're discussing and the reason why you've asked of her to address an apology. But thanks for trying

I think, however, I may have gone a little 'heavy' on the poor dear. I don't think she was expecting that.

[haahoo]

You cant fight fire with fire, but you can blast femi-humour with a good broadside of male humour..

[Zuberi]

You cant fight fire with fire, but you can blast femi-humour with a good broadside of male humour..

Yeah and it destroys their egos, every time!

I don't think there are that many who can fight fire with fire like you and I.

[Percy]

Try having a discussion with a small child or a rottweiler. More sense might eventuate.

[haahoo]

Yeah and it destroys their egos, every time!

I don't think there are that many who can fight fire with fire like you and I.

There is always the problem that whena man wins an argument with a woman, he loses..

Men are capable of putting women in their place, but, not allowed to!

"Shut it woman, know your place!"..

Is the best way of dealing with them!

[haahoo]

Try having a discussion with a small child or a rottweiler. More sense might eventuate.

no doubt!

[Zuberi]

There is always the problem that whena man wins an argument with a woman, he loses..

Men are capable of putting women in their place, but, not allowed to!

"Shut it woman, know your place!"..

Is the best way of dealing with them!

Yeah, that and you can throw a st......never mind.

[shaazam]

new age gals have been thoroughly brainwashed by the feminit education system and you can only expect them to quote feminit slogans back at you