Infiltrating the infiltrators, I turned the table and sat in on a pro-abortion NOW meeting in NYC
by Coleus

I didn't relish the prospect of spending my evening sitting in on a National Organization of Women event, but I couldn't help but be curious. A colleague of mine had chanced upon an announcement for the monthly meeting where feminist reporter Eleanor Bader would be speaking about her experience after "infiltrating" the National Right to Life Committee Convention this past June. How could I pass up the opportunity to hear some of "the other side's" observations about pro-lifers?
Walking into the meeting that evening, I couldn't help but feel a little apprehensive. My goal was to sit in on the meeting and "blend in." I walked into a small, crowded office with virulently purple walls covered in signs with the familiar battle cry of "Keep Abortion Legal" and random bowls of condoms scattered on desks.
After signing in with the two smiling, college-aged greeters at the door, I settled myself into a far corner of the room to observe the proceedings.
Primarily attended by women, most of whom were at least 40 years old or older, many were there twittering with excitement about Bader's impending presentation. They all wanted to hear what right-wing, anti-choice secrets the reporter had managed to glean during her time "behind enemy lines."
Bader, author of Targets of Hatred: Anti-Abortion Terrorism and reporter from Women's eNews and Lilith, didn't disappoint. A petite, animated, engaging, articulate woman in her late 40s, Bader's opening salvo to the crowd was, "People! This is not a marginal group of crazies!"
Describing her "infiltration" of the NRLC meetings, Bader sounded like a mischievous school girl relishing her latest uncaught misdeed. Bader spoke of how she had registered for the convention under a false name to observe the proceedings, almost as if the NRLC convention was a National Geographic episode and the pro-life participants in attendance were some new and exotic species whose habits and interactions had to be studied and picked apart. Three things really struck me about Bader's presentation:


- They underestimate pro-lifers. Believing in the stereotype of a movement dominated by old white men and subscribed to by marginalized, zealous, religiously motivated, uneducated "church ladies," Bader couldn't quite keep the surprise out of her voice when she reported that those at the NRLC Convention were "smart, educated, beautiful and articulate."
In Bader's own words, "This just isn't what you always heard the 'anti-choicers' were like."
Bader also expressed amazement at the level of organization and professionalism exhibited by the NRLC convention hosts, its speakers and its participants. Passing around the 100-page convention program for the audience to look at, Bader pointed out the number of sponsors, as well as the quality and the variety of topics that were being addressed.
Comparing her 1992 NRLC convention experience to 2007, Bader was shocked by how savvy the pro-life side had become. She sternly warned her audience that the pro-life movement's leaders were "covering all their bases" by not just filling people's head with the rhetoric, but equipping them by providing information on lobbying, organization-building, political campaigning and youth outreach.
- They're intimidated and feeling marginalized. Detailing the NRLC presidential forum, which was attended in person by three Republican presidential candidates, NOW New York staffers shook their heads and asked, "Why aren't we getting presidential candidates to address our annual conference?"
- Discussing some of the movement's current efforts, Bader was appalled by the "chipping away of Roe" through legislative action and media campaigns on mandatory sonograms, the partial-birth abortion ban, informed consent and fetal pain.
- They are struggling to articulate their argument. Bader stated that "even NARAL (National Abortion Rights Action League) doesn't use the 'A-word' anymore. Part of what we need to do is talk up the social good that abortion is. Abortion is a moral good and a social good."
Seeming to be heartened by the positive response from the crowd, Bader pumped and loudly proclaimed "It's abortion and it's good!"
I couldn't help but register the irony of having "infiltrated" a feminist meeting wherein the guest speaker was talking about her own undercover experience with pro-lifers. Still aflutter with all that she had heard, the blue-haired woman in her 60s seated in front of me turned to me and said, "Could you imagine being a mole at such an event? Wasn't that simply fascinating?" Without batting an eyelash I replied, "Fascinating!"

Infiltrating the infiltrators, I turned the table and sat in on a pro-abortion NOW meeting in NYC

Part of what we need to do is talk up the social good that abortion is. Abortion is a moral good and a social good."
Seeming to be heartened by the positive response from the crowd, Bader pumped and loudly proclaimed "It's abortion and it's good!"

Well let us give the lady a hand and proclaim some slogans for her in simple words.

"Killing the unborn baby in your womb is GOOD !"

"Murdering the unborn baby is MORAL !"

"Get your free 'Social Goods' here; pre-paid by murdered babies"

"Smashing in a baby's head as it emerges from a vagina is GOOD".

"Only 50 million babies have died for women's rights. We want MORE SOCIAL GOODS".

"Affirmative Action, sponsored by dead babies".

"What do we want?
Anihilate a human life before it gets loose in the world.
When do we want it?
N.O.W"

"'Tis pity my mother didn't tear me to pieces in her womb. She could have been GOOD".

"Kill it N.O.W. before it becomes your Child".

"Newspeak lessons here, from the Ministry of Truth".

"The feminist infiltrators
(of whatever sex they may be!) serve as foils
whose anti−men blasts are exposed for the
dishonest, sexist cow patties they are and those
infiltrators demonstrate how hateful and irrational

feminists are."
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/pdf/...0/msg00845.pdf

I think it is only fair to point out that not all abortions are carried out simply because some woman wants to get rid of a pesky "parasite" in her body..

Often, (it is said) the reason they abort is because their partner insists on it, or some bloke does not want to have any responsibility for the results of his "pleasure"..

The CSA was alleged to have drastically increased the demand for abortions, this increase was due, it is claimed, by the fact that men suddenly could not escape the long arm of the feminazi state..

Feminists get the rap for abortion most ways..

But it is true to say that some feminist groups see abortion as the greatest anti-woman crime of all..

The point I am trying to make is that it is primarily the statists who are driving the abortion trade, using their useful idiots the feminists to carry the rap for it..

The statists are behind the drive towards recreational sex, drugs, and all other infantilising methods that will destract the human cattle..

Feminists are always useful to the state, as they are the main beneficiaries! (In their warped perception as to what constitutes a "benefit")..

Originally Posted by haahoo

I think it is only fair to point out that not all abortions are carried out simply because some woman wants to get rid of a pesky "parasite" in her body..

Often, (it is said) the reason they abort is because their partner insists on it, or some bloke does not want to have any responsibility for the results of his "pleasure"..

And looking at statistics we find out that this is a rare case...

Originally Posted by Feckless

And looking at statistics we find out that this is a rare case...

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The new signature is terrific Feck! Good choice (no pun intended).

Originally Posted by Feckless

And looking at statistics we find out that this is a rare case...

From what I have seen, 20% of women have cited significant others (14% partners, 6 % parents) as being a major factor in their decision..

The other reasons are, about 50% or so for relationship difficulties, and 75% or so for the usual feminist claptrap reasons.. (career, etc..)..

I think there is something about a society that sets women up as sexually active but does not allow them to feel able to have the child and feel confident about it..

Single mothers are routinely derided of course, this stigma must be one of the factors..

The remedy for this problem is obvious of course..

Return to the healthy principles of relatioinships etc set down under the rule of the head of the household!!

Most fathers do not not encourage sluttery!!

Often, (it is said) the reason they abort is because their partner insists on it, or some bloke does not want to have any responsibility for the results of his "pleasure"..

Often (it is said) Dworkin's corpse smells of roses.

Originally Posted by haahoo

From what I have seen, 20% of women have cited significant others (14% partners, 6 % parents) as being a major factor in their decision..

The other reasons are, about 50% or so for relationship difficulties, and 75% or so for the usual feminist claptrap reasons.. (career, etc..)..

I think there is something about a society that sets women up as sexually active but does not allow them to feel able to have the child and feel confident about it..

Single mothers are routinely derided of course, this stigma must be one of the factors..

The remedy for this problem is obvious of course..

Return to the healthy principles of relatioinships etc set down under the rule of the head of the household!!

Most fathers do not not encourage sluttery!!

The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents' or partners' desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.

http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/2009/0...-abortion.html

How wonderful it would be if men were the ones to have babies. Then it would be a men's issue.

But I still know many men are hurt about abortion. None on this site have been affected though. Or have they?

Is there any man here who has been through an abortion?

How wonderful it would be if men were the ones to have babies. Then it would be a men's issue.

Don't be silly, Jools.

It is a men's issue already because it is OUR children we are talking about.

But men are not allowed any say.

Why don't you turn the question around and ask what would happen if men had the babies and women had no say at all.

Originally Posted by Percy

Don't be silly, Jools.

It is a men's issue already because it is OUR children we are talking about.

But men are not allowed any say.

Why don't you turn the question around and ask what would happen if men had the babies and women had no say at all.

Our last go-round, she angrily claimed she wasn't on either side.

Originally Posted by Percy

Often (it is said) Dworkin's corpse smells of roses.