Quote from Annette1313

As a conservative, I'm also not much in love with the state. I believe in limited government. However, I do recognize that the government has its place. Unfortunately, the Democrats think the state's place is in EVERYTHING.

For example, battered women's shelters. I think these should be operated by faith-based groups rather than governmental groups. To some extent this would prevent feminists from taking them over, as they have done with the centers under state control.

I don't see why they have to be faith based, does that mean I can't help out in one if I choose to? If you don't want them run by the government, that's fine, but can't they just be run by people who are concerned and just want to help as well? Anyway, my main concern with battered women's shelters are the fact that they have been taken over by femcunts, if they got rid of the femcunts, I couldn't careless if they were funded by the government. If getting rid of the femcunts is done by making them non government funded, then I'm all for it. I'm not exactly married to the idea of the government funded things like that, and I'm willing to have my mind changed with good reasons.

Quote from KellyMac

I don't think Julie has "turned" at all. I think she is frustrated at inaction and is trying to get something done. If anything, she is opportunist, directing her energies to where she thinks she has the best chance at success.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It is in our best interests to convince the "other side" that it can only help us all to correct the inequities in the system.

If that's the case, then fine. I still don't think that's the right way to go about it though. Feminists just don't want to know about how males are being screwed over by the law.

Well Julie it's sad to see you go, thanks for chew'en the fat with me, wish I could have gotten to know you better.

If you decide to come back I'd love to sit around here in net land and do some jaw'en you.

God bless you and your loved one now and forever more.

Quote from KellyMac

I don't think Julie has "turned" at all. I think she is frustrated at inaction and is trying to get something done. If anything, she is opportunist, directing her energies to where she thinks she has the best chance at success.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It is in our best interests to convince the "other side" that it can only help us all to correct the inequities in the system.

Well what ever Julie's reasons were for leaving I hope she'll be ok out there now that she has gotten a dose of real life and of the way our world is dying because of the femanazi hags.

I agree with you about having women suporting is because it will be the good and decent women who will help to temper men's anger towards women when the sittuation reaches critical mass and men take to the streets in unholy fury.

I'm not sure that a defection to feminism is even possible. Once someone has come to the realization of what feminism is, being possessed of both intelligence and wisdom as in the case of Julie, such a transition would involve living life with your eyes shut. Needless to say, this would prove quite impossible for the sighted. Since feminism, once exposed, is proven to be anything but 'equality' and since it has been damaging to men and women both, it would be unfathomable for any sane and reasoning person to abandon enlightenment and return to a state of perpetual ignorance.

Men and women are linked. We are one species with matching chromosomes. We need each other. So long as feminism is a force pushing men and women apart, it exists as a force opposed to the betterment of the species as a whole.

Julie's a bright girl. I doubt she will choose a defection from reason. If she believes she can work to influence those caught up in the lie of feminism, then I wish her luck. It is my view that women will turn against feminism in increasing numbers once they realize that it's not in anyone's best interest. With fertility rates in the toilet, kids comitting murders for the first time in recorded history and men and women at each others throats, nature will step in and put a stop to feminism if we don't.

Quote from TheSharpenedPen

I'm not sure that a defection to feminism is even possible. Once someone has come to the realization of what feminism is, being possessed of both intelligence and wisdom as in the case of Julie, such a transition would involve living life with your eyes shut. Needless to say, this would prove quite impossible for the sighted. Since feminism, once exposed, is proven to be anything but 'equality' and since it has been damaging to men and women both, it would be unfathomable for any sane and reasoning person to abandon enlightenment and return to a state of perpetual ignorance.

Men and women are linked. We are one species with matching chromosomes. We need each other. So long as feminism is a force pushing men and women apart, it exists as a force opposed to the betterment of the species as a whole.

Julie's a bright girl. I doubt she will choose a defection from reason. If she believes she can work to influence those caught up in the lie of feminism, then I wish her luck. It is my view that women will turn against feminism in increasing numbers once they realize that it's not in anyone's best interest. With fertility rates in the toilet, kids comitting murders for the first time in recorded history and men and women at each others throats, nature will step in and put a stop to feminism if we don't.

100% !!

It is my view that women will turn against feminism in increasing numbers once they realize that it's not in anyone's best interest. With fertility rates in the toilet, kids comitting murders for the first time in recorded history and men and women at each others throats, nature will step in and put a stop to feminism if we don't.

Yesssss TSP!!!

But what do enlightened men do in the meantime?

A quick MGTOW and try to avoid it all?

Participate in subversive action and wait for the eventual collapse?

Raise families 'under-cover'?

Debate the rights and wrongs of 'the system' and rely on democracy to put it all to rights?

Several generations of men have been robbed of their birthright - to found stable families and lead them forward. Lonely old men playing with techno-gadgets sounds slightly less attractive than lonely old women stroking cats.

Quote from TheSharpenedPen

It is my view that women will turn against feminism in increasing numbers once they realize that it's not in anyone's best interest. With fertility rates in the toilet, kids comitting murders for the first time in recorded history and men and women at each others throats, nature will step in and put a stop to feminism if we don't.

That is actually a brilliant post. Living things are always trying to find a way to survive and adapt, that's why things like homosexuality will never, ever, become the norm. If feminism continues to destroy humanity, then evolution will take its course, and destroy it itself.

Quote from Yan Yan

Yesssss TSP!!!

But what do enlightened men do in the meantime?

A quick MGTOW and try to avoid it all?

Participate in subversive action and wait for the eventual collapse?

Raise families 'under-cover'?

Debate the rights and wrongs of 'the system' and rely on democracy to put it all to rights?

Several generations of men have been robbed of their birthright - to found stable families and lead them forward. Lonely old men playing with techno-gadgets sounds slightly less attractive than lonely old women stroking cats.

What we try and do is limit the bad effect it has on us, while trying to fight it for future generations.

Quote from TheSharpenedPen

I'm not sure that a defection to feminism is even possible. Once someone has come to the realization of what feminism is, being possessed of both intelligence and wisdom as in the case of Julie, such a transition would involve living life with your eyes shut. Needless to say, this would prove quite impossible for the sighted. Since feminism, once exposed, is proven to be anything but 'equality' and since it has been damaging to men and women both, it would be unfathomable for any sane and reasoning person to abandon enlightenment and return to a state of perpetual ignorance.

Men and women are linked. We are one species with matching chromosomes. We need each other. So long as feminism is a force pushing men and women apart, it exists as a force opposed to the betterment of the species as a whole.

Julie's a bright girl. I doubt she will choose a defection from reason. If she believes she can work to influence those caught up in the lie of feminism, then I wish her luck. It is my view that women will turn against feminism in increasing numbers once they realize that it's not in anyone's best interest. With fertility rates in the toilet, kids comitting murders for the first time in recorded history and men and women at each others throats, nature will step in and put a stop to feminism if we don't.

good post TSP

I just disagree with the part about women turning against feminism once they realize that it's not in anyones best interest.

Women will turn against feminism when they realize it is not in their best intrest. Women will never turn against feminism because of the way men are being treated. Because women don't care about men, the same way men care about women.

I am saddened to think that I was turned because I have been a strong voice in my community against feminism's anti male attitude and for men's rights.

The sad part about the people out there is that many awesome guys are socialists. It does take work to wake them up and you have to be consistent because guys are not someone you can change in a day. They need to see things for themselves and work it out with you giving knowledge. I hate to say it but shaming them is not such a bad tool. Because otherwise they are happy to not get involved and just stick with rescuing the women. Women are different for they will follow strength but still not a one off show because they test you and wait to see the reactions and the stability from/of you. Shaming them too is a good tool. Because they are doing things that affect the rights of both men and women.

I think I had been doing pretty good and accomplishing things. So to be turned is disastrous but I guess it shows that I too am only a mere woman.

But if I myself have become poison then I myself am a threat. The only thing that is going to help us all is our own community which may be small at the moment making it very precious.

I agree that men and women who are pro the feminism cult need to be monitored. For me, my caring nature is always going to be vulnerable now and then.

Anyhow, I need something from the MRM. Something solid. Like a list of what we stand for. Because I don't actually understand what we stand for any more. I am just guessing that we are trying to cut feminisms power or delay its move towards socialism. It is hard to hold onto something if it has no matter.

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I think I had been doing pretty good and accomplishing things. So to be turned is disastrous but I guess it shows that I too am only a mere woman.

Admitting that you have a problem is the first step on the road to recovery

Things we stand for:

The end of of anti-man policies at all levels of society.

The end of feminist indoctrination as the bigotry and willful blindness it represents.

The active cooperation between men and women and the acceptance of all our natural desires.

The acceptance than men and women are different, that previous generations and cultures knew this and the end of social engineering

The admission that men build civilisation and need to be appreciated for it just as women are appreciated for maintaining the domestic sphere

That's my list of what my minimal demands would be.

Quote from Feminist_Scum

I don't see why they have to be faith based, does that mean I can't help out in one if I choose to? If you don't want them run by the government, that's fine, but can't they just be run by people who are concerned and just want to help as well? Anyway, my main concern with battered women's shelters are the fact that they have been taken over by femcunts, if they got rid of the femcunts, I couldn't careless if they were funded by the government. If getting rid of the femcunts is done by making them non government funded, then I'm all for it. I'm not exactly married to the idea of the government funded things like that, and I'm willing to have my mind changed with good reasons.

Well, the reason I said "faith-based" (I meant churches, etc), is because they are less likely to be sucked into the feminist horsehockey, as opposed to a secular governmental agency.

Quote from Yan Yan

Yesssss TSP!!!

But what do enlightened men do in the meantime?

A quick MGTOW and try to avoid it all?

Participate in subversive action and wait for the eventual collapse?

Raise families 'under-cover'?

Debate the rights and wrongs of 'the system' and rely on democracy to put it all to rights?

Several generations of men have been robbed of their birthright - to found stable families and lead them forward. Lonely old men playing with techno-gadgets sounds slightly less attractive than lonely old women stroking cats.

I think men are already doing all the things you mentioned above with varying degrees of success. Each of us as individuals will have to pick the method that works best for us. Whether that is 'going your own way' and avoiding the marriage trap, or as you suggest, raising families 'under cover' - assumably as seperated from the claws of state influence as possible.

I would add one thing to the list though and it would be this - aggressive lobbying for our rights. Men and the MRA movement as a whole need to actively lobby against unfair laws, quotas, set-asides, fast-track promotions, discriminatory child custody, unfair raping of financial assets, derision in the media - all of it. This means we need an umbrella organization and we need to get out there with signs, or scale tall buildings dressed as our favorite caped crusader if necessary. Burn your bras so to speak, or maybe your speedos. Vive le Revolution!

I'm a male nurse who has worked much of his career with the elderly and I would like to think I gleaned a few pearls of wisdom from them while rendering care - those who listen just might learn something. One thing I noticed about the elderly from generations past is that they were almost uniformly mister and missus. Your could say Mrs. Smith for example, and not offend. When these men and women spoke of their deceased spouses, they did so in the loving affectionate tones that come from spending a life time with one person - an unconditional commitment to one another. They had lived their lives to the fullest, raised children whom they were proud of and would leave the world with no regrets.

One thing that none of them could ever understand was how a handsome and courteous young man like me could possibly be single. Oh how times have changed.

What can we say of this generation? It is a generation lost and set upon itself. Marriages, if they even happen anymore, are not for life and are not spoken of in the same affectionate terms that our elders employed. We are not living the fullfilled lives of generations past, many of us not having children, or having had them, not being allowed to be part of their lives. I fear sir that you are correct. Many old women will grow old with their cats and men with their technological gadgets. We won't be able to call them Mr. and Missus any longer.

Our generation was robbed of the things that mattered and gave meaning to life. Those who stole these things from us will pay dearly in this life and beyond in ways their childish minds could never construe. All their wealth and power, all the king's horses and king's men, will never be able to put back together the mess they made, again, nor shall any of these things shield them from the consequences which shall befall us all.

A tower built in this fashion has but one destiny - to fall.