Quote from KellyMac

Geez, Selkie. And here you were the one telling us all to ignore Fruitcake. Maybe you should take your own advice. I for one am getting tired of your attitude. Whose side are you on? Or are you the only female good enough for the movement?

Kellymac, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP! I've been feeling the exact same way, but I don't really like to attack others, even when I think they need it.

But YES, I agree with every word you wrote! I was afraid I was the only one who felt that way.

Quote from themanonthestreet

Oh effin leave already will you? I gave you a chance because I didn't know your ideologies... but when you said:

"I have chosen my path finally and it is going to be to work with the manginas and the feminists. Sorry guys but I never had the privileged life."

That is where I lost all respect for you. You made your choice. And so have I. Your a femikook. Plain and simple.

Wow, I never seen that. Julie, please explain further what you meant with that. If it means what I'm dreading, then it is sickening.

Quote from Annette1313

Kellymac, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP! I've been feeling the exact same way, but I don't really like to attack others, even when I think they need it.

But YES, I agree with every word you wrote! I was afraid I was the only one who felt that way.

Don't worry, I have been starting to get sick of Selkie's over the top rants at me. I don't see why people are fighting personally, aren't we all here to fight feminism and misandry? Even if we disagree, can't we at least respect why we disagree, and realize we are fighting towards the same goal?

Quote from Feminist_Scum

Wow, I never seen that. Julie, please explain further what you meant with that. If it means what I'm dreading, then it is sickening.

She said it... not me!

TMOTS

Quote from KellyMac

Geez, Selkie. And here you were the one telling us all to ignore Fruitcake. Maybe you should take your own advice. I for one am getting tired of your attitude. Whose side are you on? Or are you the only female good enough for the movement?

Why does everyone have to be on a "side"??

One of the most outstandingly brilliant features of "antimisandry" is the name chosen..

I am a fussy bugger when it comes to names and labels..

I like to call something or someone what they truly are if it matters enough..

"Antifeminism" would be against a cause that does not in itself suggest it is a bad thing..

And, the "anti" bit suggests rebelliousness, not neccesarily a good thing!

"Against male hatred".. no one can argue with that! (without saying its totally ok to hate males..)

Anyway, my point is, this site is NOT just about bashing feminism..

The site is, judging from the title, about bashing male hatred..

ifeminists do something perhaps similar..

or they try to!! (they dont actually succeed in my opinion!)

So, folk dont need to take "sides" on here I dont think..

I dont personally like labelling people, especially negatively..

So, untill I see someone getting constantly labelled and badged worthless just because of a few things they say that may court controversy and argument (Bring it on I say!!!), I wont be "taking sides".. and even then I will take my own side..

Quote from themanonthestreet

She said it... not me!

TMOTS

lol, yes, I know. Don't worry, bud.

Quote from Drex

Now, that is definately something I would like to see!

How can one make the FC more FF?

easy..

Dynamite!!!

Still, would be interesting to see those 15 pages..

Dare you let me see?



And, I was being serious when I said dynamite was the only way!!

Still, I am always open to persuation otherwise!!

I guess you have a 1% chance, but I am prepared to hang on for those odds!!

It is for this.

http://menz.org.nz/2007/any-submissi...-matters-bill/

The grandparents raising grandchildren groups have been lobbying quite successfully Nationally and Internationally (they are very organised now) and it looks as if changes are coming that will help the fathers through their work. They too are another family member and some of their issues are the same.

My submission has to look like this
http://menscentre.org.nz/MCNS_Care_o...Submission.pdf

If anyone knows how to turn a PDF into a word file I could basically edit it to suit our purpose and then could write 2 for 2 different groups.

TMOTS,

I have watched you pick at me since I have been here. I have expected that you would look for a chance to have a dig. I doubt very much that you were looking to respect me so claiming to disrespect me is something I had expected from you.

Feminist_Scum,

sometimes to make change means working with groups instead of fighting them. So if the street wise people are not anti feminists but pro feminists, I have to go along with that. We have had another shooting in the streets last night. Something has to give. And sadly, it needs groups working together. I have no problem working with others.

And sometimes the men's refuge has a man in it while the women's refuge has the female partner. The groups have to work together. There are no groups that are anti feminists helping. Although there are pro family groups that help which are against the feminism ideology. Nobody leaves rooms because a feminist is present. And no-one throws mud at others beliefs or ideology. They just look for solutions.

Quote from julie

It is for this.

http://menz.org.nz/2007/any-submissi...-matters-bill/

The grandparents raising grandchildren groups have been lobbying quite successfully Nationally and Internationally (they are very organised now) and it looks as if changes are coming that will help the fathers through their work. They too are another family member and some of their issues are the same.

My submission has to look like this
http://menscentre.org.nz/MCNS_Care_o...Submission.pdf

If anyone knows how to turn a PDF into a word file I could basically edit it to suit our purpose and then could write 2 for 2 different groups.

TMOTS,

I have watched you pick at me since I have been here. I have expected that you would look for a chance to have a dig. I doubt very much that you were looking to respect me so claiming to disrespect me is something I had expected from you.

Feminist_Scum,

sometimes to make change means working with groups instead of fighting them. So if the street wise people are not anti feminists but pro feminists, I have to go along with that. We have had another shooting in the streets last night. Something has to give. And sadly, it needs groups working together. I have no problem working with others.

And sometimes the men's refuge has a man in it while the women's refuge has the female partner. The groups have to work together. There are no groups that are anti feminists helping. Although there are pro family groups that help which are against the feminism ideology. Nobody leaves rooms because a feminist is present. And no-one throws mud at others beliefs or ideology. They just look for solutions.

Interesting, so, its "lets sort this shit out.."..

Not "Who dumped this shit on us?"...

Can you not export the pdf file into word format?

Quote from Feminist_Scum

Don't worry, I have been starting to get sick of Selkie's over the top rants at me. I don't see why people are fighting personally, aren't we all here to fight feminism and misandry? Even if we disagree, can't we at least respect why we disagree, and realize we are fighting towards the same goal?

FS do you mean this post?

Proposal for an MRA line in the sand

Proposal for an MRA line in the sand

Proposal for an MRA line in the sand


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You seem to like the state, I don't.

Do you honestly believe the government cares about you? That it will help you out of the goodness of their non-exsitent hearts?

Do you want the government involved more in our lives?

More laws? More restrictions?

Quote from julie

TMOTS,

I have watched you pick at me since I have been here. I have expected that you would look for a chance to have a dig. I doubt very much that you were looking to respect me so claiming to disrespect me is something I had expected from you.

Not true Julie. I have only called you on comments that I didn't care for. I have nothing against you personally, what-so-ever.

When someone makes a statement that I feel is female centric, poor widdow women, or poor me... well, I am not interested in it. If I were, I would go to a femi-site.

I have said things to others here as well. Both male and females. So please, do not assume that I was picking on you. I was picking at some of your statements.

TMOTS

Quote from selkie

FS do you mean this post?

Proposal for an MRA line in the sand

Proposal for an MRA line in the sand

Proposal for an MRA line in the sand


Average Age

Average Age




You seem to like the state, I don't.

Do you honestly believe the government cares about you? That it will help you out of the goodness of their non-exsitent hearts?

Do you want the government involved more in our lives?

More laws? More restrictions?

Yes, I didn't appreciate those posts. The only reason I didn't answer back aggressively, is because I think that your heart is in the right place. I'm not exactly in love with the state, but there has to be at least one to a certain degree.

Quote from Feminist_Scum

Yes, I didn't appreciate those posts. The only reason I didn't answer back aggressively, is because I think that your heart is in the right place. I'm not exactly in love with the state, but there has to be at least one to a certain degree.

As a conservative, I'm also not much in love with the state. I believe in limited government. However, I do recognize that the government has its place. Unfortunately, the Democrats think the state's place is in EVERYTHING.

For example, battered women's shelters. I think these should be operated by faith-based groups rather than governmental groups. To some extent this would prevent feminists from taking them over, as they have done with the centers under state control.

You guys might take a break from regurgitating things which are now past their sell-by date and let us have your reactions to the following

I never knew Julie very much but it's sad to see any member being 'turned'. We would be wise to take it as a warning and reminder of the insidious nature of the feminism cult and its propaganda machine and of its superficial attractiveness to many young women.

We should also learn some other lessons from this event. I believe the primary lesson is that we have been too magnanimous in allowing feminists and manginas to have free rein on this site. Poison sometimes looks innocuous but it is poison and it spreads. If we have to let feminists in here then I believe they should at least be enclosed in a zone of their own, that way they can be monitored.

But also we should always remember that we are not in the business of woman-hate and some of us should cool it in that department or we will be seen as no better than man-hate feminism. I don't believe we should hate individual self-styled feminists either. If hate there be then it should be directed where it belongs, against the feminism cult itself.

Personally I don't think someone's mind can be changed very easily unless their mind was already on the "other side" for the most part.

I know I do not change my mind easily at all, because I come to my views through much introspection, research and personal experience.