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Indeed, two destructive paths but still different.

You say they won't put up with female selfishness, yes they will, they are doing it now by simply ignoring the gender war.

MRA's are but a small minority, everyone else who either ignores (a form of support of the status quo) the gender war or those who hate men and make it well known are part of the problem and in that group you will find both types of mamas boys. The ones who ignore the gender war are just concerned about themselves and don't give two shits about men as a whole. Yeah, they are smart in some regard but it is only themselves they are protecting.

But the men in the second group do care about men. Maybe its just themselves but its much better than a man who hurts men while taking care of women. The men in the second group can easily be brought to our side if they know how they can benefit. The men who belong in the first group and are manginas can't.

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But the men in the second group do care about men. Maybe its just themselves but its much better than a man who hurts men while taking care of women. The men in the second group can easily be brought to our side if they know how they can benefit. The men who belong in the first group and are manginas can't.

All men can be brought to our side and while the man in the second group may be better, he is also not an honorable man who would stab you in the back the same as he would a woman.

Better, worse....who can say. What I can say for sure is that we shouldn't be encouraging the creation of more mamas boys, we may as well be encouraging single motherhood.

Hispanic men are notorious for practically worshipping their mothers, yet they are definately not manginas.

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Hispanic men are notorious for practically worshipping their mothers, yet they are definately not manginas.

So all hispanic men are:

1) Not manginas

2) Mamas boys

First of all, I doubt these things are true but isn't the hispanic population among the least successful?

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So all hispanic men are:

1) Not manginas

2) Mamas boys

First of all, I doubt these things are true but isn't the Hispanic population among the least successful?

If they are still the mud throwing type like NZ is, .... I already like them.

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If they are still the mud throwing type like NZ is, .... I already like them.

WHAT?

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If they are still the mud throwing type like NZ is, .... I already like them.

I don't know about mud throwing but I know that jumping the border and taking American jobs while using our medical services (it is common to deliver a baby on American soil to gain automatic citizenship and free emergency services) is not what I would call honorable. Especially since it is driving down wages and many American citizens don't get any medical care at all, much less free.

Yeah, so we built a nation and now others want to steal from us. Why don't they build their own damn nation.

<sigh>

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So all hispanic men are:

1) Not manginas

2) Mamas boys

although I'm sure there are exceptions, pretty much every Hispanic male is a mama's boy. And practically none are manginas.

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I don't know about mud throwing but I know that jumping the border and taking American jobs while using our medical services (it is common to deliver a baby on American soil to gain automatic citizenship and free emergency services) is not what I would call honorable. Especially since it is driving down wages and many American citizens don't get any medical care at all, much less free.

Yeah, so we built a nation and now others want to steal from us. Why don't they build their own damn nation.

<sigh>

You sound like an African. Yeah, I agree that no-one should TAKE from another country what is important to them for their survival.

What goes around comes around.

Quote from Otis the Sweaty

what kind of man doesn't love his mother?

If you can't distinguish between your mom and all other women, than I feel sorry for you... and your mother.


keep in mind that most women hate mama's boys. They feel like their husbands and boyfriends should give all of their attention to them (wives and girlfriends). They can't stand to see their man put his mother ahead of them.

There are women who are selfish and who pettily resent a strong relationship between their husbands and their mothers. There are, however, also some selfish mothers who cling to their sons, refusing to let them grow or to go and make the normal, natural transition from little boy to grown man, husband and father.

A wise women lets her sons become men, even though it's a bittersweet moment to lose the little boy she loves. She encourages them to focus their energy where it belongs in a marriage, first and foremost upon their spouse. In marriage, the relationship between husband and wife should be the most important human relationship, taking precedent above all others.

There are important transitions in a man's life that mothers can selfishly hamper. There is the moment when a little boy realizes that he is more like dad than mom and starts to bond more with his father than with his mother in search of 'man' things. A wise mother rejoices in this transition as a good and natural thing, a selfish mother resents and is jealous of it.

There is also the moment when the most important woman in a man's life should become his spouse. A wise mother welcomes a new daughter into the family with open and loving arms. She supports her son in becoming a husband and father. A selfish mother resents the loss of being her son's priority. She's jealous of the relationship between her son and his wife and through small words and gestures works to place a wedge between them, in the hopes of once again becoming the most important woman in his life.

Ultimately, while perhaps being committed under the guise of love, these efforts are selfish and wrong, serving only the interest of the mother and being to the detriment of the son.

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You sound like an African. Yeah, I agree that no-one should TAKE from another country what is important to them for their survival.

What goes around comes around.

You wanna clarify that?

I give my son hugs all the time, and oftentimes when I'm online he's sitting on my lap.

Of course, he's such a cute little fellow that you can't help but hug him!

He's always hugging me or his father.

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I give my son hugs all the time, and oftentimes when I'm online he's sitting on my lap.

Of course, he's such a cute little fellow that you can't help but hug him!

He's always hugging me or his father.

...and if he grows up too touchy-feely women will reject him or worse...think sexual harassment laws where a simple touch is considered bad.

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When they hit their teens that huggy stuff will usually end.

My oldest son was never touchy feely as a child.
Now, girls seem to love him and he's very huggy with them.

My youngest son isn't a teen yet. He has always been very spontaneous and touchy. But it isn't always hugs, he likes to get rough too, with me anyway. He gets plenty of attention. he's my buddy

It may end on the surface Billy but does it end in the bedroom?

You see, in the bedroom is where many women want strong, dominate men and they are upset because they aren't getting that. Not that I care if they get what they want but in the context of this discussion isn't the bedroom where all that touchy-feely stuff will come back for men who hide it on the surface?