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Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

This is a discussion on Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape within the Chit chat (MAIN) anti misandry forums, part of the Introduction to anti misandry category; Ok, just as many regular members know, when I'm not logged on here I often take my sword and shield ...

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    Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape


    Ok, just as many regular members know, when I'm not logged on here I often take my sword and shield elsewhere, and muster troops to besiege foreign battlements.

    Earlier on I joined a Daily Mail story, where posters were almost unanimous (men and women) in denouncing a police forces backtracking on a drink sensibly poster campaign, because feminist groups objected.

    When I joined the amiable proceedings, the comments were at about 118. If members here are aware of 'Cain L' from Canada, a radical ideologue who regularly runs riot without mods being decisive in stemming his lunacy. This little shit then begins to ironically abuse the 'report abuse' function 80-90 times to delete all the voices that don't agree with his twisted worldview.

    I've mentioned previously how Daily Mail doesn't operate on removing posts based on transgressing the rules (which I follow), but whoever decides their fragile sensibilities have been offended.

    See below the thread for my responses.

    Safe Night Out: Fury as police posters suggest drunk women get raped | Mail Online

    Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape


    • The posters, which suggest drunk rape victims were to blame, have angered anti-rape campaigners
    • The West Mercia Police were forced to apologise
    • hundreds were put up in pubs in Herefordshire, Shropshire and Worcestershire
    • A web page link and video have been removed from the police force's website



    They were meant to be simple warnings to young people enjoying a summer night out, at a time when alcohol-fuelled sex attacks are at their peak.

    But West Mercia Police were forced to apologise yesterday after campaigners said the posters for its Safe Night Out initiative suggested rape victims were to blame if they were drunk.

    One poster pictured a smiling woman above another photo of her lying barefoot and apparently unconscious with her dress riding up her thighs.

    The warning reads: ‘Don’t let a night full of promise turn into a morning full of regrets.’ Beneath the woman’s prostrate figure, the poster states: ‘Don’t leave yourself more vulnerable to regretful sex or even rape. Drink sensibly and get home safely.’

    A second poster aimed at men also sparked fury, for saying they ‘could’ be breaking the law and arrested if someone hasn’t given their consent for sex or touching.

    A senior officer at the Midlands force, which covers Herefordshire, Worcestershire and Shropshire, apologised after anti-rape campaigners expressed outrage at the campaign messages.

    Jocelyn Anderson, of Worcestershire Rape and Sexual Assault Support Centre, said: ‘There is no “could be” about it – that’s rape – and to put regretful sex and rape together is appalling.

    ‘The problem was the poster put the blame on to alcohol and women who are raped, suggesting if they didn’t drink they could avoid rape.

    ‘It’s not alcohol that causes rape, although it’s a vulner- ability factor. It’s rapists that cause rape.’

    Hundreds of the posters were put up in pubs throughout the force area last month to coincide with a three-weekend spell over July when statistics show drink-fuelled sex assaults reach an annual peak.

    Detective Superintendent Ivan Powell admitted there had been ‘some concerns’ about the poster aimed at women.

    He said: ‘If the campaign has caused distress, that was not our aim and I will apologise for that.

    ‘This was not about blaming victims but putting information out to help.’ The posters have now been taken down.'

    Hundreds of the offending posters were put up in pubs in Herefordshire, Shropshire and Worcestershire last month.

    While the police's website links to a webpage dedicated to the campaign and video, the link has been removed.

    The campaign video features a female rape victim was also released as part of the campaign with the aim of encouraging women to drink less while on a night out.
    My response:

    "A second poster aimed at men also sparked fury, for saying they ‘could’ be breaking the law and arrested if someone hasn’t given their consent for sex or touching."-----------No mention of these posters being taken down? If the police are going to allow themselves to be unduly influenced by feminists regarding the issue of consent and defiling the rule of law, then women will have to equally seek the consent of men as well. A bad law is never recognized as being so until it applies to women. According to feminists if a man doesn't secure express consent for sex and touching (often requiring verification many times throughout the interaction) then that constitutes rape. Obviously it's intended to demonize and criminalize as many men as possible. But apart from killing spontaneity and libido, that would technically make 99.9% of men rapists. It's intentionally designed to divide men and women, create more victims for the grievance industry gravy train and provide more ammunition to continue the war on men.

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    No matter how commonsensical the message, feminists are in a perpetual state of being angry, and their manufactured 'outrage' is a tactic learned from the 70s to hijack column inches.


    I did make many other replies informing posters why the comments had been decimated so, only to find, predictably, they were reported as abuse and automatically removed.

    What a frigging farce!!
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    Re: Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

    In other words, the dirt bags who profit from spewing anti male propaganda are screaming like toddlers because the police told the truth.

    Pathetic!
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    I'm surprised to see that Feministing hasn't picked up on this
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    Re: Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

    I have been groped and fondled by women and gay men without my consent. Doesn't that qualify as sexual assault? Or does my being a straight man mean that I can never be a victim, at least when women or homosexuals are the perpetrators?

    If the police advise me to not get drunk and then amble about in certain neighborhoods known for mugging and assaults, would they be guilty of blaming me for being the victim of those crimes or would they simply be doing a good service by warning me of danger?

    As we all know, feminists do not want to make the world better for women. They want to make it worse for men. And what's more, they don't even want women to be safe. Where's the profit in that!? They have a business to run.
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    Re: Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

    I will wait for the "drunk-walk" to get started.

    When the cops tried to help women here in Canada with some sound advice,we all know how that went.

    Escaping responsibility seems to be a feminist wet-dream.

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    Re: Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

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    I have been groped and fondled by women and gay men without my consent. Doesn't that qualify as sexual assault? Or does my being a straight man mean that I can never be a victim, at least when women or homosexuals are the perpetrators?
    Me too. Once incidence by an older, overweight woman at work, was laughed out as management didn't think a man could be groped and harassed. This was at the same place, a man earlier on had got the sack for a sexist joke. As shocking as other consensuses I hear all the time such as "men can't be raped".

    Apparently being a straight man, means we aren't in a minority and can't claim discrimination. Even though we are in a minority as women outnumber us 52% > 48%. Confused? Me too!

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    Re: Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

    Can someone give me a digital copy of that poster? I have an idea.
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    God forbid anyone suggesting women are to blame for something!

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    Re: Fury as police anti-drinking campaign suggests drunk women are to blame for rape

    A second poster aimed at men also sparked fury, for saying they ‘could’ be breaking the law and arrested if someone hasn’t given their consent for sex or touching.

    Jocelyn Anderson, of Worcestershire Rape and Sexual Assault Support Centre, said: ‘There is no “could be” about it – that’s rape – and to put regretful sex and rape together is appalling.

    So, touching is now rape? Odd, I thought it was penetration.....oh, it is? Then, the "could be" is perfectly valid, logical a statement.........

    ‘The problem was the poster put the blame on to alcohol and women who are raped, suggesting if they didn’t drink they could avoid rape.

    ‘It’s not alcohol that causes rape, although it’s a vulner- ability factor. It’s rapists that cause rape.’


    So, she acknowledges that it's a vulnerability factor, yet insists it's not mentioned? Something that women could do, to make themselves less vulnerable to rape, and yet it musn't be mentioned? Has it not occured to her, that maybe it's considered more effective to aim a campaign at victims, in the hope of helping them to protect themselves, than aiming at criminals, hoping they will really stop their actions, because of a poster? Are these really anti-rape campaigners, or just manhaters?
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