Feminist Wrote A Blog Post Saying "Fuck You" for Speaking Against My False Accusation | |
A feminist has just wrote a post on her blog saying "fuck you" for blaming feminism for being falsely accused of sending obscene messages to the RA's sister (This tale, and how I was found innocent, I have already told).
Here is the post which this feminist has written: Quote: I've just been reading a men's rights blog post. Yes, occasionally I like to cross over to the other side and see what they have to say. "Luke Skywalker" claims to have been falsely accused of sexually harassing his RA's high school aged sister while he was at college. Apparently he and the RA weren't the best of friends, and he did a few silly things to provoke and irritate her throughout the year. Suddenly, she swooped upon him with this rather strange accusation that LS had been sending filthy AIM messages to her sister, and that she had the PROOF! He managed to get off, basically because he had a watertight alibi that showed he was nowhere near his computer at the time they were sent. It seems fairly clear that the RA's accusation was spawned out of stupidity and a damaging desire for revenge. Just to be clear on this, I actually think it heinous to level false accusations at people, especially when they involve sexual assault, harrassment or rape. Not only is it criminal to subject someone to this nightmare if they didn't do anything, it also undermines the much larger number of genuine cases that are then written off by people who like to think women just go around making this shit up. After the college charges against him were abandoned, LS says he had to endure the suspicion of his classmates as they labelled him things like 'creepy' and 'stalker'. I agree that must have been horrible - but I'm not sure why he feels that such language is solely the realm of feminism. "But as far as many students were concerned, I wasn’t cleared at all. Labels such as “creepy”, and “stalker” and other feminist speak followed me for weeks, even though I had been found innocent." [my emphasis] How are these words part of 'feminist speak'? Are they somehow invalid now, simply because he's had a bad experience? Because it seems to me that he's more than hinting that feminists would love nothing more than to just drop every man they've ever met right on his ass with a big old fat accusation of how he likes to look through her window late at night. He finishes with this conclusion: "And also after this incident and another second incident which was even worse, which I may or may not ever tell you about, and also the Duke Lacrosse case after that, I was totally finished with dating American women and women at the college, and with taking them out dancing or doing anything like that with them. It’s just too dangerous for me as a man in this feminazi society after all that has happened to be intimate with these women: the risk of getting falsely accused again, maybe even of something even worse, like sexual assault or rape, is just too high. [my emphasis] So to end I will say: I am a man who was falsely accused. Feminism was responsible." [not my emphasis] I'm truly sorry that this man was accused of something he didn't do. I understand that he felt humiliated and hard done by, and I think that's terrible. I think his RA has a lot to answer for. But you know what else is fucking awful? The amount of women who have been raped and have to defend themselves to people who think they must be lying, because that's what women do. The ones who have to have their entire sexual history paraded before a courtroom, whose sartorial choices are questioned, who are told they 'must have known what they were there for' - who are made to feel so goddamn fucking guilty because someone forced their way inside their body without permission. So I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but fuck you for blaming it on those who genuinely pursue sexual equality and respect because they don't happen to feel it's okay that men can access women whenever they want to. Oh, but you know who does? This commentor on that same post who was using the opportunity to respond to accusations elsewhere that he wanted the world to descend into 'Muslim savagery' and that 'adolescent girls should be forced to marry their rapists'. From MikeeUSA:
"Other then them attacking us, I have no problem with the muslims. If I had to choose between destroying sweeden and destroying saudi arabia I would destroy sweeden: both the people of sweeden and saudi arabia dislike americans as a rule, but the people of saudi arabia are less pro-women’s rights then the people of sweeden. To say that muslims have loveless marraiges is a lie and is projection of your worthless english culture onto other cultures which are superior to your own (yes, muslims culture is superior to your english culture; yes your pro-women’s rights culture is THAT worthless). It’s funny and retarded that you assert that if anyone was similar to what you believe the muslims are like that they would breed themselves out of existance: It is europe, england, and anyone who is sufficently pro-women’s rights that have the rapidly falling birthrates and will cease to exist soon… not muslims or anyone else who is atleast a bit against women’s rights (and the muslims really aren’t that anti-women’s rights… the Bible surpasses them by far on that count). As for love. Every marraige between equals is a loveless marraige. For women love is submission to a husband/”bad”boyfriend/master/boss/etc. A marraige where the man is the power is full of happiness for the man. Arranged marrariages have worked well for thousands of years, new equality based marraiges continually have fallen apart for about 100 years. The marraige of a girl to the Man that raped her as deuternonmy demands would be more tranquil then the equality based marraiges that you wish to continue to foist upon all men: in the Bible’s version of marraige in this case the girl would know who the power in the marriage is from the get go...[some weird bit about elf princesses and the FBI] Chris: you offer nothing that college aged Men want. You only offer more of the same. We want what is most advantageous to us and that is not women having rights. I’d call you a facilitator of our enemies. That’s just my opinion, no need to throw your polite phrases at me and your english ‘reasonableness’. As for Men being savages… Yes that would be fine with me. I would like Men to do as they wish rather then obeying the law (which is made for women, not Men). The fact that you’re repelled at the thought of violent Men shows that… maybe you’re… a bit of a fag? The ‘respectable’ Limey often comes off that way ." Did we all get that? The only happy marriage can be one where the woman submits (as God wills her) and the man gets the full power (as he so desires). Girls should be forced to marry their rapists (as the Bible says) because then there will be no confusion over the power balance in the relationship...which needs to be solely the domain of the man. Men being the supreme rulers of the universe are above petty things like the law, so it should only apply to women so that men can control them.Real men hate women having any rights at all, and are also inclined to violence. If you are a man and like neither of these things, you're a fag and probably from Sweeden [sic]. And there, my friends, is yet another example of why I call myself a feminist. Peace out (seriously, forced to marry their rapists? Fuck you, asshole) | Link: http://audreyapple.blogspot.com/2008...orce-luke.html
And here is what her commenters had to say: Quote: Amanda said... Oh god, I actually felt physically ill reading that comment. There's just so many insulting facets to it, both personally and to women generally. "Every marraige between equals is a loveless marraige. For women love is submission to a husband/”bad”boyfriend/master/boss/etc. A marraige where the man is the power is full of happiness for the man."
Fuck right off. Firstly, it's 'full of happiness for the man'? Because heaven forbid it be full of happiness for the woman.
Secondly, "For women love is submission to a husband/”bad”boyfriend/master/boss/etc."?
This insults and infuriates me on so many levels that I don't even think I have the right words. This is not only insulting in that it suggests that the only relationship a woman can feel 'love' in (I suspect his definition of love is probably very different to mine) is one of submission to her "husband/'bad' boyfriend/master/boss", but also because it completely demeans the sexuality of women who are genuinely interested and turned on by submission. I don't think any women take voluntarily entering into a submissive relationship lightly- there's so much at risk, and so many things that could go wrong, that it would be insane to do so. To suggest that it's automatically what women want makes me very scared for a lot of women out there. It's this sort of attitude that leads to domestic violence- and heaven help us if he ever thinks to enter the BDSM community in search of his perfect 'submissive' woman. "I would like Men to do as they wish rather then obeying the law (which is made for women, not Men)."
I wonder if he'd still be saying that if he'd been assaulted, or defrauded, or been the victim of any number of crimes which could cause him personal pain, hardship, or distress. Although he could probably find a way of blaming it on women.
I also loved his subtle use of Man/Men versus girl/women/woman. Nothing like turning males collectively into a proper noun to give them power. 5:34 PM MBM said... Hi Audrey, I've been reading for sometime now and enjoyed the read but now I'm positively itching to comment.
What an unbelievable blog. There is so much that is scary about not just that entry but all his others and the responses.. Wow!!!
I've taken the time to ponder how one can end up with such a crazy view of the world. I mean, I have strong feminist views but I don't hate men, quite the contrary - I see plenty of positive space they can occupy in my world. The only conclusion I could come up with is that Luke Skywalker was in love with his sister for too long. Now he is ashamed and he wants to bring us all down.
Seriously, I hope that opinions like that don't grow like a disease. Sadly I fail to pity him. He probably was a complete ass to her and even his parents weren't surprised.
If he had the evidence as early as he says he did, why didn't he go to his Dean first? That is serious misconduct he had evidence of but he choose the tactic of setting his own stupid trap.
My favourite part though... "Anyway, I did a little research and I found out that men most at risk of false accusations are the ones that dated women and that had close interactions with women. "
I guess that all hetrosexual men are at risk of false accusations because all have close interactions with women. Luckily, women most at risk or rape and sexual abuse are those that have dated and have had close interactions with men. There we go, the world seeking natural balance and putting everything in order again.
what an absolute dick.
phew... that feels better! Thanks Audrey  7:39 PM M said... you know what scares the shit out of me? That this view is shared by many, MANY others. I've come across quite a few blogs of this nature in my travels ("eternalbachelor" anyone?). This guy and others like him are at least explicit in their retardness (made up word) but there are many more who think exactly the same way but put it under the guise of the grand old "nice guy" (who really isn't) or "deep thinker that likes to discuss male/female relationships". Help! 9:36 PM | Anyway, right now I have to deal with other things than this idiocy, but I thought it might be good for you guys to have some laughs with.
Oh, and before I forget, here was my original blog post: Quote:
Like many men who ultimately became MRA’s, I was falsely accused.
When I was a freshman at college, spring semester (about 2 and a half years ago), there was a female RA in my building who didn’t like me at all. We had a lot of disagreements and a lot of arguments, and I didn’t like her, either. To make a long story short, by the spring semester, things escalated to the point where she would often shout at me, and I wasn’t too bright either, so I often purposely did things to irritate her and egg her on. I would run through the halls, I would say bad things about her behind her back, I would tell everyone about what a bad RA she was, I would insult her and her boyfriend through the Halo 2 mike when I was playing Halo 2 against her boyfriend on system link, etc. Finally, she decided to get rid of me once and for all.
One day I was walking down the street, and I saw her, and she said to me “Luke, I would like to talk to you later.” I didn’t know what was up, but something told me from her tone that she wasn’t up to any good.
So later that day I was back in the residence hall, and then she came along and said “Ok, now I want to talk to you.” So we went out to the middle of the hall and she yelled (something along the lines of):
“Yesterday afternoon, you sent inappropriate, explicit instant messages through AIM to my HIGH SCHOOL AGED SISTER!! xyz123* is my SISTER’S IM ADDRESS, and you sent INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES TO HER!! You knew her address because you SAW IT ON MY BOYFRIEND’S COMPUTER!! You have done so many things to purposely irritate me, and now this is the LAST STRAW!! You have been intruding in my personal life for the LAST TIME, and now this is going to become a BIG ISSUE!!”
(*Note: not the IM address which she actually said, used as a fill-in.)
The entire time I was just standing there frozen with fear. There were several times where she stopped during her rant to try to get a response out of me, but I gave absoultely none because I was so afraid I couldn’t even speak.
Now after she went away, I was very, very curious about why, and on what basis, she would accuse me of sending these messages. Because I knew that I didn’t send them. Curious, I pulled up my AIM log on my computer (I had a program which logged all the AIM messages sent and received from that computer), and horror of horrors, there were the messages in question. And whoever wrote them also used my real name and claimed to be me. I figured someone had gotten into my computer while I was out and the door was unlocked and the computer was still logged in, and wrote the messages, and sent them from my computer. I had been framed.
Now I wasn’t stupid, and I knew eventually this would be turned into a case which would go in front of the college judicial system, and I might possibly even face criminal charges over it.
And there was evidence on my own computer that would convict me for sure.
So for awhile I didn’t know what to do, and I felt helpless and despaired, and angry at the same time. I wanted to beat the living crap out of whoever set me up, but at the same time it looked like they would get the last laugh and there was nothing I could do about it.
But then I finally managed to raise my head again to my computer screen, and I took a closer look at the messages, and at the timestamps on them. I noticed that the timestamp on the first message was 4:32 PM. And I noticed that the timestamp on the last message was 5:15 PM.
“Wait a minute!” I thought. “I was at Physics Lab cleaning up the apparatus until 4:45 that day! And I was at orchestra rehearsal from 4:55 until 6:00 that day! I have 4 witnesses, including the Professor and the Physics Lab Curator who saw me at Lab, and I have about 50 witnesses who saw me at rehearsal! I know that when I’m called in to defend myself, I’ll have a mountain of ironclad proof that I am innocent.”
So sure enough, about a week later, I received an email from the Dean saying essentially that I was being charged with the offense, and that in two days I was to meet with her in her office to present my preliminary defense against the charges.
At my college they don’t always give the charges special names like they do in the workplace and the legal system. Such was as in my case. So I was charged essentially with “sending explicit IM messages to the high school sister of an RA”.
At my college, for major offenses (what I was accused of is considered a major offense by the college), the accused is called into a Dean’s office where the Dean acts like a grand jury does in the US legal system, and then if you are indicted by the Dean, you go before a special Board, and there you have your trial.
So those two days later came, and I went into the Dean’s office, with my defense totally prepared.
And the Dean said roughly this:
“I’m sure you’ve gotten my email, and you know why you’re here. You have been accused of a very serious offense. You have been accused of sending explicit IM messages to the high school age sister of an RA at this college. I have already heard the complaintant’s side of the story earlier. Now I would like to hear your side of the story regarding this allegation.”
To which I responded roughly:
“Dean __________, I first heard about this on Thursday when she came up to me personally and said that I had sent these messages. She had her voice raised in a very frightful manner, and I was so scared that I stood there frozen and didn’t say anything back to her because I was so scared.
But I did pick up on her statement that the alleged messages were sent ‘yesterday afternoon’.
And when I checked my AIM log from yesterday afternoon, and there they were, the alleged messages!
But Dean ___________, I have ironclad proof that I didn’t send those messages. At the time those messages were sent from my computer, I was not at my computer. I was at Lab and Rehearsal. And I have a Physics Professor, the Physics Lab Curator, as well as 2 other students who will surely testify that I was at Physics Lab from 1:00 to 4:45, and I have about 50 students who would surely testify that I was at violin rehearsal from 4:55 to 6:00 or so. According to the timestamps from the computer log, the messages started at 4:32, and ended at 5:15. From 4:32 to 4:45, I was still at Physics Lab, and from 4:55 to 5:15, I was at violin rehearsal. So I could not have sent those messages that came from that computer because I simply wasn’t there to send them. [At this point I handed the Dean a sheet that I prepared ahead of time containing the messages and the timestamps, as well as a copy of my schedule]. And if necessary, I’m sure AOL, the company that runs AIM, could be reached and could provide data confirming those timestamps. And once that happens, the message time data from AOL, combined with eyewitness testimony that I was at Lab and Rehearsal at the time the messages were sent, will provide an ironclad case proving my innocence beyond any doubt that might be raised against it, if this should go before the Board.”
The Dean looked at me, and thought for awhile, and then she said something along the lines of:
“This incident was indeed very serious, and it is the duty of the college to find and punish the perpetrator of this incident. But you have provided such an absolutely compelling case that if your story does indeed check out with the Physics Professor and Curator, and with the rehearsal leader, that will be enough evidence for me to clear you of this charge, and you will not go before the Board. And if your story does check out with them, this will also be enough evidence for me to instruct this RA to get off of your back for the rest of your time at the college.” [No, I’m not making that last sentence up. My guess is that the Dean was fed up with the way in which the RA acted during the whole incident, and didn’t want her to continue to bug me.]
I was so happy I practically went skipping back to the residence hall.
The weeks and months went by, and I never received another email regarding the incident from the Dean, or another summon into her office, so I’m assuming that she did talk to the Physics Lab Professor and the Curator and the rehearsal leader and maybe a few other people, and I know for a fact that my story checked out with all of them because they saw me there, so I suppose I was cleared and that was that.
But as far as many students were concerned, I wasn’t cleared at all. Labels such as “creepy”, and “stalker” and other feminist speak followed me for weeks, even though I had been found innocent. There was even this one student who tried to spread a rumor that I had confessed to the crime even before I got into the dean’s office to defend myself.
I became even more furious because I realized that the college itself, and feminism, with all their “Catch the Campus Stalker” programs (which by the way have yet to actually catch a stalker as far as I know) and “Let’s Accuse The Men!” programs was responsible for making it “acceptable” for this woman to frame me and falsely accuse me. (I’m SURE she was involved in framing me because she is the only one at the college who truly knew her sister’s IM address in the first place. I didn’t. I never saw it on her boyfriend’s computer as she falsely claimed. And if it was on her boyfriend’s computer, and HE was the one who framed me, then he would have told her about it, making it still a false accusation from her.)
And it was feminism that made these kids feel that it was acceptable to throw around humiliating feminist-speak names such as “creepy” and “stalker” at me for weeks, and to spread false, damaging rumors about me regarding the incident, even though I was found innocent of the charge.
Now about a month later I tried to tell my parents about this. I detailed the entire incident to them. But really they were “less than supportive” to say the least. They barely said anything in response to me at all, and what they told me effectively was:
“I’m glad you were found innocent, but the reason why she did this is that you agitated her to the point where she did this. That was bad of you. You need to stay out of other people’s affairs because they might do something like this if you don’t.”
Needless to say, I was shocked at my parents’ pitiful and unsupportive response. Where was the anger? Where was the outrage? Why was their only response to blame me for “agitating her” and legitimizing her unjust actions by saying that she did this because I “agitated her”?
So again, I blame feminism for the fact that my parents were hardly supportive of their son, and had no outrage over this sickening incident.
Anyway, I did a little research and I found out that men most at risk of false accusations are the ones that dated women and that had close interactions with women. And I found out that other men even at my college had been threatened with false accusations out of revenge because they did something that the woman didn’t like.
And although I wasn’t dating a woman in this situation, any idiot can put two and two together and figure out that dating situations and relationships open up an additional can of worms from which these sorts of false accusations can arise.
So obviously after this incident I never again went out of my way to purposely do a lot of agitating little things to anybody at the college again (and especially not women at the college, for obvious reasons).
And also after this incident and another second incident which was even worse, which I may or may not ever tell you about, and also the Duke Lacrosse case after that, I was totally finished with dating American women and women at the college, and with taking them out dancing or doing anything like that with them. It’s just too dangerous for me as a man in this feminazi society after all that has happened to be intimate with these women: the risk of getting falsely accused again, maybe even of something even worse, like sexual assault or rape, is just too high.
So to end I will say: I am a man who was falsely accused. Feminism was responsible. |
Last edited by LukeSkywalker; 11th-January-2008 at 01:03 PM..
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