Hofstra, rape culture, and the bigger picture - Feministing

This thread is about a whore at Hofstra university who falsely accused 4 guys of raping her when in truth, she was just a total slut and wanted the whole thing and eventually admitted as much.

some comments show that Feminists have no real problem with false rape accusations:

I was talking to a friend last night about this and he was trying to get me to declare that we need to prosecute this woman for bringing false charges and ruining these guys lives, and it was very difficult to try to explain to him what that would to to women who were genuinely raped and make it that much less likely that they would seek justice.

So fucking what? What a stupid cunt. Protecting the rights of the accused aren't as important because women should be the first priority. Feminism at it's finest.

I'm curious about this "ruining the accused's life" meme. It gets thrown around a whole lot in dialog about rape, and I've always wondered if it actually meant anything at all.
So if a man is accused of rape (not convicted, just accused), his life is ruined? Forever? He can never get a job, or trust another woman, lose all of his friends, and never be trusted to tell the truth again? Really?
Because that sounds to me like what happens to rape victims, not accused rapists.

Oswid - you are right in that we should be asking why this woman recanted...but not for the reasons you state.
Has nobody here thought that these young men (or indeed their friends at college) may have put pressure (verbal or physical) on this woman to recant?! Perhaps they - or people they knew threatened her. You don't know. Neither do I...but to just assume that the sex was consensual and she just lied is very unfair.
And where does it state that she willingly partcipated in the intercourse? I do not see this in the articles. If she did say this she again, could have been being pressured or she may have been in shock. I just think it's very unfair to assume if you do not have all the facts.

So since we can't prove for 100 percent certain that she wasn't raped, it means she was.

Yes - I concede that does make her side of the story less plausible.
However - that still doesn't mean that they couldn't have emotionally co-erced her from the outset.
She had also been dancing so diminished responsibility from alcohol may have meant that she was less able to consent...and again, the guys would know this.

First off, I am bothered by the notion that we have a diochotomy between "real victims" and woman who lie.

There's no such deterrent for women who were genuinely rape. You have to be proven to have lied in order to get convicted.

It is innocent until proven guilty, so if there's no proof of her not consenting, there's not rape. There's simply no indication of her not consenting.

This is good stuff really; to keep and reference as an example of how ignorant and consumed they are in their presumption of female privilege, whilst being narcissistic to any other human.

It shows how their women’s studies courses are turning out Ding-Bat prejudiced fuck-heads that have a lot in common the Hitler youth study courses out come.


Feminism: like Nazis insisting that the Jews are oppressing them.
Wasn’t that a central remit of the Hitler youth curriculum; and women’s studies too? (Replace Jews with males for its modern adaptation.)

There are definately similarities between Nazism and 2nd wave Feminism, although such a comparison is somewhat unfair to Nazism.

Originally Posted by Otis the Sweaty

although such a comparison is somewhat unfair to Nazism.

Evan with all my contempt for the femi-bigots; only you could have come up with that one Otis.

Originally Posted by Trollop

He can never get a job, or trust another woman, lose all of his friends, and never be trusted to tell the truth again? Really?
Because that sounds to me like what happens to rape victims, not accused rapists.

So, rape victims can never get jobs, lose all their friends, and can never be trusted to tell the truth again? What utter bullshit (unsurprisingly...).

Originally Posted by Otis the Sweaty

Hofstra, rape culture, and the bigger picture - Feministing

This thread is about a whore at Hofstra university who falsely accused 4 guys of raping her when in truth, she was just a total slut and wanted the whole thing and eventually admitted as much.

some comments show that Feminists have no real problem with false rape accusations:



So fucking what? What a stupid cunt. Protecting the rights of the accused aren't as important because women should be the first priority. Feminism at it's finest.





So since we can't prove for 100 percent certain that she wasn't raped, it means she was.

""I'm curious about this "ruining the accused's life" meme. It gets thrown around a whole lot in dialog about rape, and I've always wondered if it actually meant anything at all. ""

this arrant rationalisation for wimyns' penchant for disinhibited and guiltless lying so beloved and accepted by the feminits as to be an institution in Western society nowadays

lying is even forbidden in the Ten Commandments even court cases plaintiffs are sworn to tell the truth to forstall the destructive follow ons for men from feminit lies accepted as truth in court of law

however to the amoral and malicious feminits lying is the orders of the day when they perceive an advantage or have malicious intent

ethics like lying is just a word to the feminits - written off as memes

Duke Lacrosse projected the angst and sheer cost to the families of the innocent but maliciously accused students; well and good think the feminits - bring it on

Nifong was beaten with a feather for his robust efforts to can the students onthe lie of the feminit Lacrosse student - this highlights the concern of the state for sworn lies by wimyn

the effects of state supported lying is a wake up call to astute men of how the new age gals and their mangina lickspittles think and how feminit lies are supported by feminit courts and their feminit state to methodically trash men

This is failure, I really wish you would cut back on profanity as this woult help your credibility. Just look at this post....

http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2009...-rape-culture/

from Feckless's post

""Amanda Hess thinks that this is not really an issue about false accusations, but what caused the woman to make false accusations:

Since the men were cleared of all charges, the public will likely never know what actually happened during this “incident,” why the woman reported it as a rape, and why she later took it back.""

the video was the clincher

Amanda sees no ethical problems of malicious lying by wimyn potentially these guys would be doing hard time were it not for the video

this is a clear example of the amoral to malicious mindset of feminit wimyn nowadays

She lied because she had incentives to do it? Let's see, easy way to citizenship, financial gain, reputation cleaning... Want me to go on?

False accusations are no big deal until the repulsive bitch gets caught!

I'm sure there was a civilization in the pass that dealt with false accusers "the loud way!"

When a man is falsely accused of rape, it's obviously going to have a negative impact on their life, like the Muslim taxi driver who recently went through 20 months of court before it was found out that she was lying.
It's not just harder to get a job, as people think there's no smoke without fire, there are other factors that very rarely get mentioned, like his children's school friends finding out he's been accused, that's obviously going to cause grief for his child(ren).

I hate that future hypothetical victims of rape are always trotted out as some sort of justification for men being falsely accused, or for the false accuser to remain anonymous, it's a ridiculous argument.

Anyone who thinks a false accusation is anything but negative, must have a very lonely brain cell.

I was talking to a friend last night about this and he was trying to get me to declare that we need to prosecute this woman for bringing false charges and ruining these guys lives, and it was very difficult to try to explain to him what that would to to women who were genuinely raped and make it that much less likely that they would seek justice.

Fairly typical feminist fare. "How it affects women" is considered the only valid issue in any situation.

Men being raped in jail = Good because it will help men to understand what women go through when they are raped.

Men dying = Bad, if they're leaving behind wives who will suffer from their loss

Women getting prosecuted for the unconscionable crime of falsely accusing a man (men) of rape = Bad, because it may have some peripheral effect upon female rape victims.

For feminists, all things, men in particular, only matter in how they affect women.

Originally Posted by Trauma Fried Brains

Evan with all my contempt for the femi-bigots; only you could have come up with that one Otis.

It made me laugh!