Have any of you seen this before? And what do you think of it?

The "Father's Manifesto" - A Political Platform to Repeal the Women's Right to Vote "We Signatories to the Fathers' Manifesto, responding to natural and Biblical laws, in defense of our nation and our families, hereby declare and assert our patriarchal role in society. America is an experiment in freedom, and the feminist experiment in freedom, under the guise of 'equality,' unleashed a panapoly of social ills which have become a cancer on our land, led to the moral and economic destruction of our nation, made America a house divided unto itself, created a vast underclass with a bleak and bankrupt future, and is the greatest national disaster we have ever faced.
"Recognizing patriarchy to be the greatest creator of wealth, prosperity, and stability civilization has ever known, we hereby demand that our children, homes, lives, liberty, and property be unconditionally restored to us. We hereby demand replacement of the doctrine of Parens Patria with the Biblical doctrines upon which this nation was founded. We hereby recognize and reaffirm that patriarchy is the order established under God and His Natural Law.
"We, the posterity of this nation, hereby reclaim our ancestral liberties and God-given rights."
-- 1997 Reaffirmation of the Father's Manifesto

I haven't seen it before. Here is how I interpret it.

It's much to focused on one religion to be universal enough to all men. It's date shows that it has not been successful, perhaps because of the narrow religoius content. One of the great successes of the US has always been that good men of all religions are treated equally. It is erroneous, and deliberately so, to claim that America was founded on one religion.

The rest though is necessary to prevent the rapid destruction of the nation. We are already a long way down a very slippery slope of female suffrage and greed which will lead to bankruptcy and destruction if not turned aside. It already may be too late.

Blessings

Bob

Agreed, Bob.

Tara, There was a movie with Paul Newman called "The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean"..a commedy based on the life of a remakable frontier character.

One of the best giggles in it is how the narrator bridges the gap between World War One and the Great Depression.....in a heavy Texas drawl he says;

"While the boys wuz over fightin'Kaiser Bill, the wimmin nagged the govermint inta givin them the vote. Straight away they made drinkin', whorin'and gambolin' THE THREE THINGS THAT MEN MOST DEARLY LUV TA DO...ILLEGAL....(sigh) and then the country went right ta Hell"

It is a point on which I am at odds with other MRAs. I do not believe that women are conjoined at the skull like Siamese twins nor are they inclined to any sort of political groupthink.

Hillary's run at candidacy shows that "the women's vote" exists only in the wishfull thinking of hardliner feminists. The prohibition of alcohol is the only election issue in history that ever had any significant solidarity among women voters...it's repeal could have easily been blocked by "the women's vote"if such a thing actually existed after the Women's Christian Sufferage League got their one mandate...sometimes success it what it takes for a bad idea to ultimately fail.

All of the advances of the feminist agenda...including abortion...were issues of rights fought in courts...not in elections.

The problem is not who gets elected, it is the mandarins who get appointed. Our nemisis is a club of gay lawyers and academics with a misandrist agenda who get appointments to positions of policy and governance.

Well, Maus, you are right that women do not vote in a solid block. My grandmother, for example, was a life long conservative and one of her daughters was a life long liberal. Some black women like Ophra will vote race before feminism. However women do tend to vote differntly than men. Women tend to vote for more benefits from governemnt because women are more focused on what each women "deserves" than their responsibilty for the community.

It is not inaccurate to say that women suffrage has had very dramatic effects on government. The list of prohibition of alcohol, gamboling, and prostitution is pretty accurate, and only a place to start.

Here is a very good study on the long term effects of female suffrage in the United States.

How Dramatically Did Women’s Suffrage
Change the Size and Scope of Government?
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/Lawecon/...ract_id=160530

Blessings

Bob

I think the right to vote should be contingent on some kind of competency test to weed out booger eating morons

That is a real need for effective democracy. An idiot who can't even figure out how to mark a ballot has no business voting.

I have been considering the benefits of limiting voting to land owners. That was a requirement in many democratic nations for some hundred years. It has the benefit of allowing only those with a vested interest in the community/nation to vote. It allows anyone who becomes successful enough (works hard enough) to buy a stake in the community to become a voter. It weeds out those who just live by voting more and more government benefits for themselves.

Blessings

Bob

I've been pondering the same issue for sometime, Bob. What I think we have these days is an illusion of fairness, at every level of society.

Sure, you've got a vote, but so does everyone else and the majority always trumps the minority. If most people are dumb, the dumb decision gets made every single time. What is that but mob rule?

It makes me feel uncomfortable even to think this way, but I can't see any other way of looking at it that makes sense.

Yes its discouraging when one looks at the current mob rule and observes how rapidly its voting itself into oblivion. Good people sometimes try to steer in a more functional direction, but there are always legions of opportunists who feed the mob to grab power.

It may take some kind of revolution to restore order. I can't see whatever else would work at this point. A total economic collapse is not far away. Perhaps a better method will rise from the ashes after some years of violent fighting.

Blessings

Bob

I groan whenever such limiting 'manifestos' appear. The 'patriarchy' concept was thrown down by Feminists and a whole bunch of nutters rushed to defend it. Religion seems to be a rationality of these neanderthals and poor old God gets the blame.

The vote has become linked to 'fairness', which it has nothing to do with. The vote today is about as useful as an extra pea in a plate of mushy peas. Any fool can vote today. Even dead fools vote with alarming regularity.

Our descent into voting banality and uselessness may well be linked to the 'women's vote' but is by no means explained by it. Far, far too many thick, ignorant, rent-seeking scum men vote too. Public policy demand draws on this. Any policy at all can be brought into being with 'voter' backing, just so long as they appeal to the lowest, basest, ill-thought, selfish wants. Minorities have to be appeased is the modern mantra.

The right to vote should be earned. The criteria for earning should be tight. Any fool can have 'property' and any male fool has a dick. But where does intelligence and a grasp of which way is up count? Hardly at all.

Greshams Law applies, and is slowly working its way through.

Indeed, a man's movement needs to be inclusive of men of many religions. Blaming "God" for the sins of idiots is not productive.



You are right that the right to vote should be earned. That's where owning property comes in. Not just everyone can own property. There is a large price of competency, wisdom, and work that most property owners have to pay. A few will inherit property, but the many will have had to use work, wisdom, and intelligence to become property owners. Most of the leaches and welfare queens will be eliminated. But anyone who is willing to put in the work can earn his vote.

Property ownership is also easily tracked, property in the US for example is all registered for ownership. It should have a minimum amount of property such as a legal building lot. No square inch plots divided up to defraud voting, etc.


Blessings

Bob