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This is a discussion on F.U. Fund within the Chit chat (MAIN) anti misandry forums, part of the Introduction to anti misandry category; From time to time I have suggested - embedded in posts - that every chap should have a 'Fuck You ...

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    From time to time I have suggested - embedded in posts - that every chap should have a 'Fuck You Fund'; a 'stash' of readily at hand, untraceable, easily stored cash or something that can tide him over for a few months.

    It is very handy when one looses a job, or a home.

    In Divorce the average young chap is not going to have a forensic accountant go through his papers, although the average 50 year old is very likely to face that.

    I wonder how many chaps here have an FUF.

    I was talking with my lad the other day. He is building his fund, bit by bit. He was asking just how to make sure no-one could find it or trace a paper-trail back to him through bank accounts etc.

    What do people here suggest?

    He and I discussed several ways of stashing cash; having someone trusted to hold it; holding non-cash etc.

    I was looking at a short video on you tube the other day by a New Zealand MRA-Female, Mala, ( nice girl) who was showing off her Silver. It looks as though Silver is a goer at the moment. She is buying up fast.

    The spot price has risen 65% in the last 12 months and analysts are expecting it to triple in the next 12 months.

    Gold has gone through the roof and the avarage chap can afford only a few ounces - but they are easily hidden away. Gold will go up too over the next 12 months.

    In recent months where I live we have seen a surfacing of adverts on the TV looking to buy silver and gold jewellry. The precious metal buyers are seeing a shortage and are buying up as the prices rise. Gold is now around $1400 an oz. I can remember when it was $35.

    Keeping cash is fine but unless in a bank - and traceable - it will lose value by 5% per annum at least in most western countries. Bank interest might only, barely, maintain ts value, until a major economy falls over. Like America's or Britain's. Both are in deep shite. Then the shite will be flung all over the place.

    What are YOUR views on an FUF?; what are your views about metals?; what methods do you use to 'stash' a fund away where no-one can get at it but you?

    (I bet TMOTS has a couple of thousand cigars stashed away somewhere ! )

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    Re: F.U. Fund

    Unfortunately the poor bastards don't see it coming. Why would someone who has confessed to being your partner for life would actually screw you for everything you have..
    Apparently by the time the divorce comes around it's been more than one year in the planning and 80% of men even after the divorce have no understanding or reason given, there is no "why"..
    It would be relying on the female to be exemplary, honest, grant notice of her intentions and actually have a discussion which is NEVER going to happen, as well we all know. Assuming that women are the "Worlds Greatest Communicators" is not only a complete fallacy and but that only applies when it's their issues that they need to communicate to their girlfriends..

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    I don't have a fuck-you fund, I have a fuck-you-all fund. One thing to keep in mind is taxation authorities have a transfer ceiling in all countries. In Australia it is 5,000 dollars. If you're crying poor, but have your crawl-space stuffed with swag never ever spend more than 5k in one hit. All transactions over this amount are subject to investigation. If you have the eye estate jewellery can be a good investment, and one way to disguise the value of your pieces is to surround them with garbage. Buy costume jewellery and fake pieces and hide the genuine article amongst them. The only way to tell fakes (real fakes not cut glass) from real diamonds is with an eye-piece (you'd be amazed how many stupid women claim differently, but it's absolute piffle) and few people are going to carefully inspect sixty pieces of obvious junk when the first ten are plainly fakes.

    Gamble.

    Gamble a lot.

    Let people SEE you gamble. Phone gambling addiction help lines on occasion. Join a gambler's support group. Establish credibility as a compulsive gambler.

    When someone asks why you suddenly have 100,000 dollars tell them you won it on the slots. NOT a jackpot, but $50 on one, $600 on another, a grand on this one, and $40 on that one, etc., if they ask why you suddenly DON'T have 100,000 dollars you SHOULD have had (incidentally at this time it may just happen that one of your friends is having a very lucky week with his punting) tell them to lost it on the slots. In Sydney there are hundreds of thousands of machines, and this makes it almost impossible for someone to prove otherwise when you claim to have had a lucky streak as long as you're a known gambler. Since they're in bars and clubs you can claim to have been drinking, and so naturally you can't remember the precise details. Gambling is one of those things that just allows you to get away with bloody murder in financial terms, and can be a great way to move money between mates. In some localities you may get a fine for unlicensed gambling for moving money this way (playing poker between mates) but the fine might not be worth worrying about. There are ways around it as well. Pubs in this country for example often have poker nights, and if (like me) you know someone who owns a pub well I won't say too much. Look into it and think about it.

    It's late, but I may expand on this later.

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    Indeed I do Sir Knight.... The most expensive is valued at about 600.00 US. But personally, a foreign account is best. Transfers are monitored and recorded. Anything over 9,900.00 is also reported to the IRS. So, that is out. But there are ways to place cash/metals etc in foreign accounts where nare an eyeball of big brother can see.

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    Do you plan to have that $600 go up in smoke?

    I bought a small amount of silver today and will watch to see what value rises occur in the next six months.

    It is noticable that the 'value' of precious metals is measured in US$. And as the US$ is falling like a stone against the Au$ (25% over the past 12 months) I am looking forward to a double-dip into the honey pot.

    The transaction limits here are $10k before reporting, by the way, although for precious metals there is reporting for $5000+ single purchases.

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    Re: F.U. Fund

    Quote Quote from christianj View Post
    Unfortunately the poor bastards don't see it coming. Why would someone who has confessed to being your partner for life would actually screw you for everything you have..
    Apparently by the time the divorce comes around it's been more than one year in the planning and 80% of men even after the divorce have no understanding or reason given, there is no "why"..
    It would be relying on the female to be exemplary, honest, grant notice of her intentions and actually have a discussion which is NEVER going to happen, as well we all know. Assuming that women are the "Worlds Greatest Communicators" is not only a complete fallacy and but that only applies when it's their issues that they need to communicate to their girlfriends..
    I was going to respond with a précis of my story but you've just done it. Heck, she even helped set up my FUF and was Finance Director of one of my companies. My life partner, my heart's love, my soul mate .. y'know?

    And I still don't know "why" but have come to terms with the fact that I never will.
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    Indeed, often their decisions are simply baffling...

    When my divorce went through - I ignored all the paperwork, I just can't handle it (she emailed me copies the very day after my mother had passed away - allegedly unintentionally)... Kick 'em while they're down, eh...
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    Husband : "I had a dream too...I dreamt they were auctioning off pussy. The pretty ones went for a thousand dollars, and the little tight ones went for two thousand."
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    Every man should have a standby camper,even if that is a van with a matress in the back,and something to cook on,some food stocked in there,this will be a emergency backup,should you be thrown out of your home,a little cash is handy,but food,fuel,shelter is the most important.

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    My F.U. fund was simply cash stored in my brothers safe deposit box. Evidence of the purchase of precious metals and jewels are one of the first things divorce lawyers look for after land purchase by proxy, and offshore accounts. I thing precious metals are a real gamble at the moment with a rather large bubble forming. Long ago my Grandpa advised me to save at least a years worth of income out of the banks and goverment' s hands. He lost his farm during the depression here in America.

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    Thanks to the J.P. Morgan type gangsters who dominate the banking cartels, unstable financial markets are increasingly becoming the norm as they greedily manipulate the money markets, and then coerce 'complicit' governments, with whom they have a rather incestuous relationship, to bail them out through taxpayers money. What a great scam eh?

    For those with the capital, investing in commodities like gold and silver is a sound bet. As evidenced by the insatiable demand by savvy money men to buy up as much as they can afford. Given that most western countries are in permanent and ongoing bankruptcy (including the U.S. and UK), and we have a fiat currency (money that is tenuously backed by a fractional reserve of little substance, unlike pre-1925 where British legal tender was backed by gold 1925 Gold Standard Act | www.tpuc.org) where money issued is nothing more than promissory notes (you can't pay off debt with more debt), and are only worth as much as the recipient is willing to trade in goods (hyper-inflation in Zimbabwe being an extreme example of it's structural weakness) based on the health and viability of the currency.

    'Cash' or debt notes are just a form of money (conveniently transportable tokens of credit) and are the most vulnerable by virtue of banks not having anything to back up it's supposed value. Gold and silver in terms of retaining it's value has been a historical constant and provides a degree of financial autonomy (MGTOW?) outside the constraints of the corrupted monetary system.
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    Re: F.U. Fund

    Quote Quote from conaill View Post
    Every man should have a standby camper,even if that is a van with a matress in the back,and something to cook on,some food stocked in there,this will be a emergency backup,should you be thrown out of your home,a little cash is handy,but food,fuel,shelter is the most important.
    I agree,all this talk about gold and silver,fine if you have some serious money,otherwise stick to the basic's,this will get you through the worst of what can be thrown at you,secret bank accounts and safe deposit boxes is all bollocks nowadays,KISS.

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    Quote Quote from conaill View Post
    Every man should have a standby camper,even if that is a van with a matress in the back,and something to cook on,some food stocked in there,this will be a emergency backup,should you be thrown out of your home,a little cash is handy,but food,fuel,shelter is the most important.
    Best idea I've heard for the already married, unless there's other ways men can be legally ordered out of our homes.

    A camper, and I'll add a small, hidden safe with around 30 grand as a FU fund. Wonder how much the camper would cost vs how much would be saved in housing after a guy gets kicked out? And since it functions as transportation as well, how much saved because you didn't end up buying a broke down car in desperation?

    Campers + FU Funds are very good precautionary tools to lessen the pain of a possible divorce, moreso than the prenupts that misandric judges wipe their taints with. But the best precautionary tool is to "JUST SAY NO". No signing the marriage license. No putting yourself in a position to be commonlaw married. If you're not married you can't be divorced. And if you make your live-in girlfriend sign a cohabitation agreement before moving in (in the US, outside of commonlaw states), she'll get only what you're willing to give her, besides child support.
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    No cohabitation either for more than two-years, but try to avoid it altogether. Even if a woman has no right to your house legally she can get you thrown out of it. By virtue (then) of occupancy she will have squatters rights so long as she had no other residence. The police will not eject her and you will be liable if you use force to do so. It is unlikely she will stay long, but it is more than possible to do this simply in order to clean someone out. I have seen it happen. Something similar happened to me although no squatting was involved. It was one of the most truamatic experiences I have ever been through to find, after a stay in a psychiatric facility (post suicide attempt) that, with my sensibilities and emotions frayed and at their absolute weakness I find I essentially have no home to return to. My own home of ten years is occupied by a woman with absolutely no legal right or ownership, no tenancy agreement, not even a nod from me suggesting it would be alright for her to stay one night. I don't want to go into the legalities because its painful to recall. Please just trust me never let a woman in your house at all unless you have cameras, and make sure she consents to be recorded as a condition of entry.

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    A camper, and I'll add a small, hidden safe with around 30 grand as a FU fund. Wonder how much the camper would cost vs how much would be saved in housing after a guy gets kicked out? And since it functions as transportation as well, how much saved because you didn't end up buying a broke down car in desperation?
    A camper may not be a good idea since the fuel prices are hitting the stratosphere. An F.U fund can save one's ass, but what's to stop the state from reaching it's hands into it? In this age of currency worship, there's not much to stop the parasites from robbing us blind.
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    An FUF is an emergency, fall-back resource.

    It cannot substitute for an income for long, but it can be a raft in a storm.

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