This is highly misleading.

First, the 40% figure is irrelevant. What does it matter whether the abuse occurred at the beginning, the end or the middle of the pregnancy? It occurs. That's what's relevant.

Second, the 21% figure is not so strange. Mean duration of marriage in the UK is about 10 years at divorce. People marry first at about 30. Say 50% of marriages end in divorce, the rest stays together till they're 70. The average marriage lasts effectively 25 years then.

Suppose women have 2 children. 1.5 years of pregnancy. Assume a constant abuse rate throughout the marriage. Then 6% of abuse will automatically occur during a pregnancy. That's within a factor 3 of the stated figure. Creative use of statistics and asking leading questions can explain the rest. It won't be the first time feminists use inflated statistics.

It should also be noted that 6% is a ballpark estimate. If all women who were abused during pregnancy eventually file for divorce then the natural figure could easily be 15%.

Note: I couldn't quickly find the numbers for Canada, but the UK should not be that different.

Thanks SG I knew someone here could decode this

I liked this part:
The ads are not easy to look at - they are harsh and show the realities of abuse - something most people are uncomfortable with

I think most posters here would have a problem with their use of the phrase 'realities of abuse' as it has been pointed out that women abuse men almost as frequently, though perhaps not as violently

btw I like your Spike Milligan quote - did you know that producer George Martin worked with him before recording the Fab Four? apparently that was the deal-maker for Lennon [no I'm not one of those 'Beatles people' but I used to be]

er... shes been punched and bruised, which i assume would have happend several days ago, but yet she still had no problem putting on eye shadow, lipstick and mascara on?

yes, that picture is obviously fake, and the image it gives out symbalises the ridiculous contradictions with which modern women live.

even when you get battered you still look better with make up on.

bet the feminists missed that one.

and you must also think, why have they chosen a young attractive woman as the model?

to appeal to men, and to make them feel sorry for her.

coercing them into being chivalrous

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btw I like your Spike Milligan quote - did you know that producer George Martin worked with him before recording the Fab Four? apparently that was the deal-maker for Lennon [no I'm not one of those 'Beatles people' but I used to be]

No, I didn't. Interesting, thanks. I liked the music of the Beatles when I was growing up as a child. Maybe it was because I was young, but the world sounded lighter then.

Did you check out the site?

Some Facts

About Violence Against Women and Children in Canada

• 51% of Canadian women have been victims of at least one act of physical or sexual violence since the age of 16.
• On average, 70 women are murdered by a current or former partner each year in Canada, that's 1 or 2 women a week. For every woman murdered, over 1,500 women and children go to a shelter for abused women.
• The annual cost of violence against women in Canada has been estimated at well over $4 billion.
• Over 1 million children in Canada have witnessed violence in the home.
• 54% of girls under the age of 16 have experienced some form of unwanted sexual attention.

What Is Abuse?

"We know that a woman is harmed, maimed or injured every minute of every day. That woman is someone's mother, daughter, sister, lover, wife, friend, in-law, co-worker."
—Assaulted Women's Helpline

There are many different kinds of abuse and often, women and children experience more than one type. Here are just some examples:

Physical Abuse:

• hitting; pinching; pushing; punching; shooting; stabbing; cutting; choking; slapping; burning; shoving;
• use of a weapon;
• physical restraint;
• intentional interference with basic needs (e.g. food, medicine, sleep).

Isolation and Restricting Freedom:

• controlling contacts with friends and family, access to information and participation in groups or organizations;
• locking up in a room/ restricting mobility;
• monitoring telephone calls.

Psychological and Emotional Abuse:

• frequently ignores feelings;
• ridiculing or insulting most valued beliefs, gender, sexuality, ability, age or sexual orientation;
• ridiculing or insulting religion, race, heritage, class or first language;
• withholding of approval, appreciation, and affection;
• continual criticism, name calling, shouting; public or private humiliation;
• refusing to socialize;
• preventing woman from working, controlling the finances, making all decisions;
• trying to prevent access to friends and family;
• regular threats to leave;
• telling woman to leave;
• manipulation with lies and contradictions;
• use of intimidating facial expressions and/or body posture;
• accusations of unfaithfullness;
• use of sexualized language;
• verbal abuse of the children and pets in household.

Stalking/Harassing Behaviour:

• following;
• turning up at workplace or house;
• parking outside;
• repeated phone calls or mail to victim and/or family, friends, colleagues;
• sending unwanted gifts;
• stealing mail;
• threatening harm to family, friends, pets;
• harassing of employer, colleagues or family;
• vandalizing car or home;
• harming pets;
• assault (physical, sexual, emotional);
• kidnapping, holding hostage.

Threats and Intimidation:

• threatening to harm partner, self or others (children, family, friends, pets);
• threatening to make reports to authorities that jeopardize child custody, immigration or legal status;
• threatening to disclose HIV status, threatening to reveal sexual orientation to family, friends, neighbours and/or employers.

Economic Abuse:

• controlling or stealing money; taking pay cheque;
• withholding money from woman so that she has no food or cannot get necessary medical treatment;
• fostering dependency.

Sexual Abuse:

• sexual touching or sexual activity without consent.

Sexual Abuse Harassment:

• forcing sex or specific acts, pressuring into unwanted sexual behaviour, criticizing sexual performance.

Property Destruction:

• destroying mementos, breaking furniture or windows, throwing or smashing objects, trashing clothes or other possessions.

If you are living in an abusive situation, there is help.

Ya there's help, but only if you're a woman.

Physical Abuse:

• hitting; pinching; pushing; punching; shooting; stabbing; cutting; choking; slapping; burning; shoving;
• use of a weapon;
• physical restraint;
• intentional interference with basic needs (e.g. food, medicine, sleep).

Men never, ever experience any of the above, though I've seen it happen to some, I clearly imagined the situations.

Isolation and Restricting Freedom:

• controlling contacts with friends and family, access to information and participation in groups or organizations;
• locking up in a room/ restricting mobility;
• monitoring telephone calls.

I have DEFINATELY had the first and third points happen to me.

Psychological and Emotional Abuse:

• frequently ignores feelings;
• ridiculing or insulting most valued beliefs, gender, sexuality, ability, age or sexual orientation;
• ridiculing or insulting religion, race, heritage, class or first language;
• withholding of approval, appreciation, and affection;
• continual criticism, name calling, shouting; public or private humiliation;
• refusing to socialize;
• preventing woman from working, controlling the finances, making all decisions;
• trying to prevent access to friends and family;
• regular threats to leave;
• telling woman to leave;
• manipulation with lies and contradictions;
• use of intimidating facial expressions and/or body posture;
• accusations of unfaithfullness;
• use of sexualized language;
• verbal abuse of the children and pets in household.

Frequently? Try having your feelings ignored (or mocked) on a permanent basis. Ridiculing beliefs & abilities, ticked... Withholding approval, appreciation, and affection - ticked... Continual critisism, name-calling, shouting (excessively), humiliation - ticked... Refusing to socialize (only when it was my friends in England, her friends were 'ok' though) - ticked...
I can't tick the 'preventing woman from working, etc.' as it was the woman doing the controlling of finances, making all the decisions, etc. and the above does state - only if it's a woman who is the victim, not the aggressor.
Preventing access to family & friends - ticked. (some family members refused to stop by due to the contstant screaming they could hear from down the path)... Regular threats leave - ticked.
Again, I can't tick the 'telling woman to leave' as it was me who got kicked out (and threatened with immigration interference).
Manipulation with lies & contradictions - oh yesssss that is the biggest tick I can put on this... body posture & expressions - that was a daily thing... I wasn't accused directly, but I was told I wasn't allowed to have a friendship with my ex 'just in case' anything happened...so, ticked. I dont' recall anything specifically sexualized in the language department, but verbal abuse of the kids wasn't uncommon.

Right, next lot...

Stalking/Harassing Behaviour:

• following;
• turning up at workplace or house;
• parking outside;
• repeated phone calls or mail to victim and/or family, friends, colleagues;
• sending unwanted gifts;
• stealing mail;
• threatening harm to family, friends, pets;
• harassing of employer, colleagues or family;
• vandalizing car or home;
• harming pets;
• assault (physical, sexual, emotional);
• kidnapping, holding hostage.

Threats and Intimidation:

• threatening to harm partner, self or others (children, family, friends, pets);
• threatening to make reports to authorities that jeopardize child custody, immigration or legal status;
• threatening to disclose HIV status, threatening to reveal sexual orientation to family, friends, neighbours and/or employers.

Had my access to my children adversely affected by my mothwhore outlaw so I could "focus on her grandchildren". Also had my immigration status threatened on at least a couple of occasions. My sex-life was frequently discussed within my "family" circle... I still can't understand why my brother & Mothwhore outlaw would want to talk about it though? Seems rather perverse if you ask me.

Economic Abuse:

• controlling or stealing money; taking pay cheque;
• withholding money from woman so that she has no food or cannot get necessary medical treatment;
• fostering dependency.

All our financial situations were controlled. After giving me $5 - the first time - I bought a battery charger, and got scolded for not spending it on her.

Sexual Abuse:

• sexual touching or sexual activity without consent.

Sexual Abuse Harassment:

• forcing sex or specific acts, pressuring into unwanted sexual behaviour, criticizing sexual performance.

Criticizing performance - ticked.

Property Destruction:

• destroying mementos, breaking furniture or windows, throwing or smashing objects, trashing clothes or other possessions.

My dying mom bought a dalek alarm clock - had the threat that if I used it, it would be broken. Had phones thrown at me, missing by inches.

If you are living in an abusive situation, there is help.

No, there isn't - because I'm a man.

Undoubtedly "some" abuse occurs amongst pregnant women, and is wholly reprehensible. But to blatantly inflate the figures, does no service at all to pregnant women who are genuine victims.

The figures stated are just ludicrously absurd.

I think if feminists hadn't applied such an lavish abundant serving of hyperbole to every study that they have ever commisioned, maybe their fraudulence wouldn't have been made so transparent!

Having a knowledge of anthropology, most men subconsciously have an inherently-bound necessity to protect a pregnant woman, be she the bearer of his child or not (born of millions of years of evolution).

The conniving authors of such studies and it's all-encompassing definitions of abuse have only but one ravenous agenda, and that is the continued proliferation of their feminist ideology by the demonization of half of this planets population. Truth is never a factor.

How about a more truthful advert. "The greatest threat to this mothers unborn child, is the mother herself."

ABUSE:
Violence against women + children

Isn't that just nauseatingly ironic. Women, the biggest physical abusers and murderers of children, are put into the same preferential elevation of importance as a victim, as their own victims!!!!!!!!!!!!


PS: Such women only represent a minuscule amount of the general population, and thankfully are not representative of most mothers, nor fathers.

But, numerically they do account for more crimes against children. That said, to avoid this "reality" only serves an ideology at the detriment of children, and the justice they deserve, even if only posthumously.

Also embracing this "reality" would serve as a preventative measure in ensuring childrens safety, if only the powers that be would cast off their addictive affiliation with such a destructive ideology.

However, I believe any vestige of moral fortitude has been squeezed into submission by the python-like clamp of feminism, and rendered impotent by those obedient minions who blindly serve it regardless of "reality."

Actually with women having such wild mood swings during pregnancy then I think 40% being abused would be about right.

This is of course considering that so much as calling your wife a fat pig constitutes abuse. Using this BROAD guideline then if you uttered one bad word to her in he nine months she was pregnant or slammed a door in anger because of the latest mood swing, then you have abused the poor dear. The damn definition is sooooooooo broad that in the normal course of the relationship then there would be some so called abuse. Of course when all of this happens to the man it doesn't count.

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Actually with women having such wild mood swings during pregnancy then I think 40% being abused would be about right.

This is of course considering that so much as calling your wife a fat pig constitutes abuse. Using this BROAD guideline then if you uttered one bad word to her in he nine months she was pregnant or slammed a door in anger because of the latest mood swing, then you have abused the poor dear. The damn definition is sooooooooo broad that in the normal course of the relationship then there would be some so called abuse. Of course when all of this happens to the man it doesn't count.

100% correct..

And its also recognised that the worst abuse is what women "feel" rather than what is actual reality..

I have a current pregnant breeder who is making my life an absolute nightmare..

Everything I say gets twisted and contorted, she stalks me and often drives 100 miles to park outside my home late at night, with my baby son in the car and send me more abusive text messages..

When I am face to face with her, she is usually "manageable",, ie I can sort of reason with her..

10 hours of attention seeking idiocy daily is most certainly abuse of my time and patience!!

And the constant threats to access to my kids is also abuse..

is that little gem above listed on the femi-harridens tick lists?

If I really wanted to, and I was a real unforgiving and heartless bastard like she portrays me, i could whip her ass legally, take the kids and get her locked up in the madhouse..

And that would be simply by applying the equality concept.. and the definitions of abuse as described by the fems..

I find these adverts offensive because they portray extreme examples of abuse, then quote figures that are obviously not in anyway related to such extreme abuse..

They also indicate quite clearly that they are talking about only the abuse upon females and where do they show the high levels of lesbian abuse, the abuse metered out by men other than the father? the abuse from all other folk?

Lets see a few posters of aborted featuses abused by the caring mothers with impunity, lets see a few posters of pissed up women and their retarded brain damaged kids that they have abused through pregancy. lets ask what the women where doing to "deserve" what they got?

Lets see the hilarious posters of men castrated boibbit style and women all rallying round in defence of this female upon male abuse..

Its all a sick joke and its all vastly exagerated in order to fuel gender apparthied..

Karl thank you for sharing your experiences, I think your stories are very helpful for those of us frustrated with the politically correct perspective in the mainstream media - I have had several male friends who were anything but 'macho' yet their truth seems to get drowned out

Oh boo hoo hoo, he insulted my beliefs, I'm off to the women's shelter to cry 'abuse' now.

Knowing feminist exploitation of the issues of rape and domestic violence to smear men,I`m always highly suspicious of ads like this.I dont deny abuse happens,but I never believe the numbers they use.We cant ever lose sight of the fact that these shelters,ads and campaigns are fronts for the fem agenda,they are not about helping women.Its the same old story--always painting only men as perpetrators(despite the high number of female abusers,both straight and gay)and always referring to "women and children" as if they were the only victims.Here again,the evidence is that more women abuse children(and this very abuse often goes on at these shelters)As for the "victims" being knocked up,thats only to make it more dramatic and to generate more urgent sympathy and thus greater funding for the agenda.