This is a discussion on Don't write men off: The history of humanity is the history of man, not of woman within the Chit chat (MAIN) forums, part of the General category; Don't write men off: The history of humanity is the history of man, not of woman By MICHAEL HANLON - ...
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You don't have to have a university education to be creative! As history proves many famous creative people have not been to university. Here is what Nietzsche has to say in "Beyond Good and Evil" about women's creative abilities since they were tending the kitchen for thousands of years: Quote:
Homemaking, taking care of the household, the children used to be a real full-time job! (feminists use the oftenly heard lie that it was only the kitchen as shaming language) There were no dishwashers, washing machines, microwaves, ovens, vacuum cleaners, electric powered lighting, heaters and so on. All the amazing inventions, from small to large, of which the vast majority was invented by men, are oftenly taken for granted today. They have made life unimaginably comfier and easier for men and women. This has also realistically given women the option to go outdoors and do things which in the past there was simply barely any time for (due to lack of fast, easy transportation, contraception, state protection such as police etc). It is because of men that women can do these things in the current advanced society which is a novelty in human history. Quote:
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Zoology (from Greek: ζῴον, zoion, "animal"; and λόγος, logos, "knowledge") is the biological discipline which involves the study of animals. Ethology (from Greek: ήθος, ethos, "custom"; and λόγος, logos, "knowledge") is the scientific study of animal behavior, and a branch of zoology. Anthropology (from Greek: ἄνθρωπος, anthropos, "human being"; and λόγος, logos, "speech" lit. to talk about human beings) is the study of humanity. Anthropology has origins in the natural sciences, the humanities, and the social sciences.[1][2] The term was first used by François Péron when discussing his encounters with Tasmanian Aborigines.[3] Ethnography is both one of its primary methods, and the text that is written as a result of the practice of anthropology and its elements. ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~ ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~ ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~ ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~ ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~ ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices. Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~ Last edited by Tyrael; 15th-December-2007 at 04:01 PM.. | ||||||||
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After all the hundreds of thousands of injustices and insults and all the dissension fostered by the media against men. Its not surprising the tide is turning.Or perhaps Morris sees this and sees an oportunity, am I too cynical? As for "which is better man or woman" the feminists started this, its an absurd question. Which is better apples or oranges rain or sunshine? Women if they wanted have many qualities if they choose to use these, at home or out in a broken world, feminism has undermined these qualities and devalued them more then men ever would. He touches on them;humanitarian concerns e.g. Mother Theresa and women like her who mend broken limbs and broken souls with endurance and great personal sacrifice -this is greatness in my book. These days the loss of the spiritual, and the materialist sirens of the media and the serpentine state have lead women away from happiness.There are and always have been talented women who do art music or science without feminist whinging. Talent - real talent finds a way. feminism is a disease the Doc is working on a cure. Symptoms include compulsive liar, constant aggression, allergic to logic, often affects women who are fat with short hair and big earings, but can be normal looking. Reason tablets three taken daily. If the sufferer displays shaming tactics double the dose. Remarkably the illness disappears in disaster zones. | ||||
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Yet again, good find, Tyrael! Anyway, Quote:
What we're dealing with here is the so called "expendability theory" in anthropology, which says that men take on more dangerous jobs, go to war, etc., because they are simply more expendable than the female of the species, because in 9 months, one man can fertilize many women, while one woman can't be fertilized by more than one man in 9 months anyway. Therefore, women are more valuable, because that one man can do the job of reproducing instead of the ones that perish. The fatal flaw of this theory, in my opinion (and I've yet to see it challenged in academia), is that it reduces the whole existance of homo sapiens to reproduction - as if bare reproduction would be the only dimension of our existence. Sure, looking at it only from reproductive aspect, it holds true that women are more important than men (if we're talking about sheer numbers), but reality is far more complex; What about other aspects, which are absolutely crucial for the survival of the tribe - the most obvious quick example being defence from intruders, of course. What good is it to have a tribe of 99 women and 1 man, who can fertilize all the women by himself, when the neigbour tribe has 50 men and 50 women. What chances has the first tribe, if the men in the second tribe decide to destroy the first tribe and expand their territory there? And it doesn't even have to be human intruders. This is one of the points this theory completely overlooks (not to even mention others, such as providing the food for the tribe, etc.). So, who does the first tribe need more in order to increase it's survival chances as much as possible, 49 redundant women or 49 aditional men? Who really is more expendable in the first tribe? So, like so many theories, the expendability theory, as popular as it is, is just too femicentric at it's core to be a good theory, because it only focuses on reproduction (maybe because females have a more important role there indeed), like it's the sole factor, existing in some kind of vacuum. Too bad, that even in his attempt to make men look more important than they are deemed nowadays, Morris himself fell for it too.
S E R V I C E W I T H A S M I L E Last edited by Rebadow; 16th-December-2007 at 12:32 PM.. | |||||
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[quote=Rebadow;53633]The fatal flaw of this theory, in my opinion (and I've yet to see it challenged in academia), is that it reduces the whole existance of homo sapiens to reproduction - as if bare reproduction would be the only dimension of our existence.] Exactly so. Reproduction by itself is meaningless if there is no development of the species to accompany it. Observe an ant colony or a bee hive. They exist merely to continue their own existences. Everything each bee or ant does is totally subordinated to the continuing survival of the species; but that survival has no other aim. So there is no evolution, and the hive or colony continues exactly as its predecessors have continued for millions of years; going round and round but getting nowhere. The life of the bee and the ant have no meaning; other than, maybe, as food for other species that might live better existences. Is that what we want the human race to be? | |||
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Thanks. I had put this in the Facts & Figures forum. Why can't we keep it there? Because this book of Desmond Morris is pretty important and useful. Or put a duplicate thread there.
~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~ ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~ ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~ ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~ ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~ ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices. Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~ | ||||
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However, I did leave a PERMANENT re-direct there, so there should be no problem?
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So, in short - men are more expendable when it comes to reproduction and women are more expendable when it comes to just about everything else (the latter is, of course, nowadays always "forgotten" to be mentioned, because it just isn't acceptable to state such an inconvenient fact). That evens expendability of both sexes pretty good, methinks. S E R V I C E W I T H A S M I L E Last edited by Rebadow; 16th-December-2007 at 12:42 PM.. | ||||
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As for them knowing of fertility being essential for survival, well really. You have to be pretty friggin' dim to think that. Another tiny dependant was the last thing that they wanted. They were more likely to say "Where the fuck did THAT come from?" (bit like today in fact). The Cave chaps would say " and how the fuck are we going to feed it. Fat lot of use that squalling brat's going to be when I'm creeping up on the friggin' mamoths down the gully. Keep it indoors - oh, and invent a friggin' door while you in there!". The women didn't of course. It was yet another job for Ug. Post hoc conclusions from ad hoc assumptions have led us down a fine old path, Ollie. I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it. But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up. I am outnumbered. But... YOU don't just make a difference, you make THE difference. ![]() | ||||
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