Dissing Men (year old thread other forum)

[Dr David Banner]

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/th...p?article=4907

This is a year old ,and longish, but worth a read, it covers a lot off stuff.

I see the workplace all my managers,bar 1 are women
I notice women forcefully and agrressively telling men,husbands bf's :to do what they are told. I witness this everywhere

So few men are there in every environment I enter, I wonder where the hell they all are....I notice this article above touches on male indifference to the non stop ridiculing. I must have been (yep past tense ) more sensitive than most because it made me fly into rages -less so now because I am so used with it - it washes off. I really -very frankly dont give a damn)
The other side of this and it has not gone unoticed by female work mates is I just dont socialise with them.In office parties there are a few words of small talk and friendly jesting then its off to one side with the lads-their hubbies or bfs- or given the lack of these- alone. T

The trouble for me is I still get blank looks from too many men (in the past this used to make me think WTF is wrong with me then?)when I bring up mens perilous state.They dont get it or if they do they will tell you but dont care. Not taking any notice going off doing your own thing...has a power of its own too...

This is where for me the MGTOW philosophy which is so positive inoffensive and free from hatred is the real revolution. It means like minded men take their show elsewhere. Do your own thing somewhere else. - Monks do this have done this for centuries,have devoted themsleves to non materialistic pursuits in knowledge ,wisdom, farming ,wine making ,even teaching rugby etc and many other life enhancing things etc.If religion is not for you the principle is still non materialism and very workable into your life,like that guy on the box I think is great: Ray Mears teaching self subsistence surviving on the basic skills is a similar spirit.

Maybe the above modes of living will make more of a come back than anyone realises. Certainly if they keep on dissing men,it may be sooner rather than later.

[bachelor tom]

Good stuff Dr B. I hear ya about work socializing, I avoid the cliques and gossip and don't miss any of it (I'm drawn more to the bicycle couriers, independent and proud). Of course politics are a fact of life at every level, and if you stay "out of the loop" you can face nasty surprises...

Interesting points about MGTOW. The monk and hermit may become popular role models who knows? I think one of the best things to do is help boys and young men, maybe coaching or tutoring, but avoiding the infiltrated orgs like Boy Scouts. Personally I prefer to stay under the radar, with minimal connection to "the system."

[Male-Rights-Network]

I see the workplace all my managers,bar 1 are women
I notice women forcefully and agrressively telling men,husbands bf's :to do what they are told. I witness this everywhere

So few men are there in every environment I enter, I wonder where the hell they all are

I recall you mentioning this before, DDB. Vast chunks of employment areas will become female-dominant in the coming years and decades - the service sectors especially. Female passive dominance is taking hold in the management layer aswell. Most private and public companies and employ significantly more women than men.

What sector do you work in DDB (if you don't mind saying)? Banking?

[Dr David Banner]

NB !some details in the post below have been changed for the sake of anonimty.Cos I dont want kicked out the pc hole I am in just yet ...its all I got right now.

Perish the thought - banking no no,MRN very broadly speaking "education" is my area for now,I cant elaborate for I am in a very pc environment. I am in a very tenous temporary situation, I have been wandering in and out of other odd jobs too.I am constantly made are of fewer and fewer men I see EVERYWHERE I go.If I lose this I dont know what the hell I would do.

Here is something that stunned me recently - I got my hands on a complete staff list of a "college" in the uk, left lying on a table -out of a college staff of, I estimated aprox 114 how many men? Have a guess.........
13 yes...... 13!!!!
I am uneasy and wary working around women because of too many past problems. I am mr niceguy and polite when dealing with them,women in the workplace I must keep at arms length,(the staff handbooks at my present location has wads of notes about offensive behaviour-its noted for favouring women very, very pc- in the upper management there appears to be only 2 men the rest of the staff appears to be exclusively female.
I am uneasy at the mo why?LOL I was wait for it -asked out- by a younger woman, I know her to be a bit neurotic so rather than outright refusal I said uh yeah,then I later phoned and said no cant make it. She is a somewhat unfriendly since this....For this and all the other reasons you have to tread on eggshells around women in the workplace.I notice few shrinking violets most are loud and more than happy to boss anyone around.
I have to laugh off their lame power game "jokes " Pointing to me
"....any trouble from him I will sort him out" lady manager to other female office worker. oh haha she only does this joke every time we meet- joke with a jag...thats nothing of course but all the other fecking shit at the mo I want to head for the hills and stay there

Agree BT :

Of course politics are a fact of life at every level, and if you stay "out of the loop" you can face nasty surprises...

Interesting points about MGTOW. The monk and hermit may become popular role models who knows? I think one of the best things to do is help boys and young men, maybe coaching or tutoring, but avoiding the infiltrated orgs like Boy Scouts. Personally I prefer to stay under the radar, with minimal connection to "the system."

BT Can you elaborate on "and if you stay "out of the loop" you can face nasty surprises..."
that sounds ominious.

I am ready for big change anytime soon.This state of affiars CANNOT continue much longer...Hah the way the artic is allegedly melting maybe there will more work for men in shoring up the sea defences....!

[bachelor tom]

BT Can you elaborate on "and if you stay "out of the loop" you can face nasty surprises..."
that sounds ominious.

Well there is always office scuttlebut, and it pays sometimes to know who's "in" or "out". And in my experience informal relations can be important to whether one advances or stagnates. I'm not good at this, so I occasionally get "surprises" that I might have known about if I was in the right clique. "It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know that matters."

I would be very cautious about relationships with co-workers. Your example is a good illustration of how women dislike being ignored or rejected ("how dare you!") If they have any power over you it could mean a word in someone's ear or worse.

I'm in a very PC environment also, it's an emotional minefield. My female supervisor is somewhat incompetent, but she was a favourite of the manager so....My single-mother team-mate is her favourite, so she can goof off, go shopping, ignore policy, and generally carry on like a child without repercussion (it's a union shop also, don't get me started).

good luck brother

[Dr David Banner]

Ah I get it BT ta for that....too true mate... I see you are in a similar situation I find myself making things seem worse because past events have turned me paraniod,although I ve heard it said 95% paranoia is justified!!!!

Good luck to you too BT and let us look forward to some day appling the MGTOW philosophy to our WORK it is possible you know.