Of course its a good idea, but it will be interesting to see how many join this revamped version of the anti-globalist protest.

Bearing in mind it is a "global protest", right now Greece is in the front line and surely all energy should be used there. The outcome in Greece will set the tone for the rest of Europe

I watched a rapper, 'Immortal Technique,' on RT news, who spoke eloquently about the situation.

Think about how many people can be informed by his lyrics and other like-minded musicians.

Oh, I am impressed. And I like what was written in this article. NZ has some strong people into this and I think it's awesome it's happening now as men have made their own movement too.

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Oh, I am impressed. And I like what was written in this article. NZ has some strong people into this and I think it's awesome it's happening now as men have made their own movement too.

But the uniqueness of this global protest is that there isn't a presiding politics which seeks to control or hijack it. And to attack the elites provides opportunity to cut and damage the umbilical cord which gives much sustenance to feminism.

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But the uniqueness of this global protest is that there isn't a presiding politics which seeks to control or hijack it. And to attack the elites gives opportunity to cut the umbilical cord which gives much sustenance to feminism.

Hmmm, very true. But this is not new and the men who cared about this before ....were backers of feminists. Can you explain how you see the opportunity? (if you don't mind)

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Can you explain how you see the opportunity? (if you don't mind)

As Percy says, it's men's business.

But seriously Julie, as you have a foot in both camps so to speak, it would be unwise of me to disclose what little tactical innovations the MRA camp can muster. It's pointless if our army is beaten before it reaches the enemies gates.

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As Percy says, it's men's business.

But seriously Julie, as you have a foot in both camps so to speak, it would be unwise of me to disclose what little tactical innovations the MRA camp can muster.

Oh, good for you.

New Zealand has already copped things big time through the UN and from the Maori and the main group leaders of the revolution you wrote of have been challenged through facebook on men's rights by a few of us. I guess all I can do is look on and say well done when you do what needs to be done. I see so much of your excellent work already.

I cannot take seriously a 'protest' that is populated by people with rastafarian hairdos or baseball caps on backwards. Hippies brought us much of the self-indulgent mess we have and seem intent on simply making a different mess on a global scale. I doubt you would find the same people protesting against feminism or the family court or false allegations, yet these are real issues of far greater moment to all men.

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I cannot take seriously a 'protest' that is populated by people with rastafarian hairdos or baseball caps on backwards.

The one person I expected to see the bigger picture.

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The one person I expected to see the bigger picture.

Stand back a little further CD and see even more.

Amusing how the great unwashed, protesting at corporate"greed", rely so heavily on Facebook, Twitter, Apple and a bunch ofother "corporates" to co-ordinate their activities. The protesters are comprised of all the usual suspects of course, Marxists, communists, socialists, extreme environmentalists (naturally), the hard Left, all using the demonstrations to advocate for "social change"
http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/10/hypocrisy-of-the-anti-greed-protests/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hypocr isy-of-the-anti-greed-protests

http://www.australianclimatemadness....rporations.jpg

I am as against 'Big Government', greed, corruption, lies, mendacity and feminism, as I am against Marxists, Socialists, dole-bludgers and other assorted parasites.

So, who are these Occupy Wall Street people who would seek our sympathy?

And do we see any of them protesting outside a Family Court or a taxpayer funded 'Womyn's Shelter that has its windows plastered with signs telling how men abuse women every 2 seconds.?

[QUOTE] The Email Archiveof the #OccupyWallStreet Movement:
Anarchists, Socialists, Unions, Democrats and Their Plans
by ThomasRyan

[Editors' Note - Crowdsourcing: At the end of this post, you will find links to download the #OccupyWallStreet email archive described earlier today by Andrew Breitbart. Send your thoughts, observations, and findings to feedback@breitbart.com, or post them in the comment section.]

On August 10, 2011, the hacker group “Anonymous” announced that it would join the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. That’s what sparked my interest in monitoring #OccupyWallStreet.

I reached out to acolleague and asked if he would be interested in studying the protest with me. At first, it seemed disorganized, and we believed it would only be a few hundred protestors.

As we engaged in monitoring its growth, we recruited other people to help us begin the collection of data available via social media. We began mapping out key players, and monitored Anonymous’s efforts to organize protests in the San Francisco Bay area public transportation system (#opBART) in order to detect patterns and key influencers.

Then, at the end of August, we were alerted by a fellow researcher that information about USDoR (U.S. Day of Rage, to which Occupy Wall Street is connected) had been posted on Shamuk and Al-Jahad, two Al-Qaeda recruitment sites. We began to take the “Occupy” protest more seriously, and dedicated more time to research and monitoring.

http://biggovernment.com/thomasryan/2011/10/14/the-email-archive-of-the-occupywallstreet-movement-anarchists-socialists-jihadists-unions-democrats/

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Percy, its no big deal if you are a traditional english (liberal) conservative.

In the present political reality, as you noitice the old left-right division are breaking down and we in an era of "issue" politics - this is a product of the post cold war world. Me? I am very left wing on some issues, right wing on other issues. When I am in the UK and I read the "conservative" Daily Telegraphy, but I often find that paper quite left wing!

We form broad alliances on issue(s) - and we might all march seperately, but we must make sure we "strike together"

While we dont see the anti-globalists protesting outside family courts, this is often becuase they are YOUNG and yet to experience the joys of family courts. With a bit of luck, the anti Wall Street protestors are beginning to learn the true nature of state power and in future years use their radicalism against other issues - such as family courts, or ID cards (as was the case in the UK recently).

The F4J generation were very much my generation and the F4J leader (O connor) was on the same marches as me in the early 1980s - and we can see what a wonderful leader he turned out to be in fathers movment. What do you think he would have said if you asked him about family issues in 1980? I doubt he would be interested - pretty much the same as you, Percy, are not interested in say civil rights in Ukraine.

The key issue is now "who rules" the banks or citizens. I dont care if you are a marxist or a conservative, I will march with you in a common cause in protection of my rights, and here Celtic Druid has made a fine post and is trying to encourage a broad chruch of support on a key issue of our time. And let us not forget how Hitler came to power - beause all the anti nazi forces could not unite against him. History has taught us a lesson we should not forget - unless you want the bankers to be our new dictators.

As alwasy Percy on mens rights issues you are a great and informed authority, but don't let your politics blind you to the wider fight and who the ultimate enemies are.

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But the uniqueness of this global protest is that there isn't a presiding politics which seeks to control or hijack it. And to attack the elites provides opportunity to cut and damage the umbilical cord which gives much sustenance to feminism.

Just wait for the hijack. It's coming......

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Percy, its no big deal if you are a traditional english (liberal) conservative.

In the present political reality, as you noitice the old left-right division are breaking down and we in an era of "issue" politics - this is a product of the post cold war world. Me? I am very left wing on some issues, right wing on other issues. When I am in the UK and I read the "conservative" Daily Telegraphy, but I often find that paper quite left wing!

We form broad alliances on issue(s) - and we might all march seperately, but we must make sure we "strike together"

While we dont see the anti-globalists protesting outside family courts, this is often becuase they are YOUNG and yet to experience the joys of family courts. With a bit of luck, the anti Wall Street protestors are beginning to learn the true nature of state power and in future years use their radicalism against other issues - such as family courts, or ID cards (as was the case in the UK recently).

The F4J generation were very much my generation and the F4J leader (O connor) was on the same marches as me in the early 1980s - and we can see what a wonderful leader he turned out to be in fathers movment. What do you think he would have said if you asked him about family issues in 1980? I doubt he would be interested - pretty much the same as you, Percy, are not interested in say civil rights in Ukraine.

The key issue is now "who rules" the banks or citizens. I dont care if you are a marxist or a conservative, I will march with you in a common cause in protection of my rights, and here Celtic Druid has made a fine post and is trying to encourage a broad chruch of support on a key issue of our time. And let us not forget how Hitler came to power - beause all the anti nazi forces could not unite against him. History has taught us a lesson we should not forget - unless you want the bankers to be our new dictators.

As alwasy Percy on mens rights issues you are a great and informed authority, but don't let your politics blind you to the wider fight and who the ultimate enemies are.

I'm seeing the protests in a different light. Currently, the liberal and uber-left have been losing political clout due to Obama's rather beige effectiveness as a president. The left feels let down because he turned out to be more of a centrist politician than a leftist. The 2012 elections will be coming very soon and the left and uber-left need to energize their base. The protests here in the U.S. have been organized by professional protesters, and yes they train the protesters in non-violence, but that will not stop the anarchists and young people looking for violent confrontation.

I stopped by the protest in my city and saw what Percy describes, a lot of Patchouli drenched hipsters with nuts and bolts in their faces, 20 somethings acting like psuedo-hippies, but drinking $4 Starbucks Lattes and tweeting with their iPads.

I'm all for having the wealthy pay their share of taxes and reining in the power of the big banks. I am not for the protesters support of socialism/communism.

Richard, like you I am both conservative and somewhat liberal on the issues. To me, socialism equates an entitlement state, and that I vehemently oppose.

Globalism was an interesting economic experiment, now we are stuck with the results. Results that have become policy and law in many countries. Unfortunately going back will simply destroy the worlds economy and put the world into an economic depression

The wealthy 1% the protesters scream about will always be the wealthy 1%. They covet power above all else, they desire to shape human destiny to their ideals. They need to have a compliant workforce to produce the capital that keeps them in power, so they influence policy and political movements.

In the early days of feminism, they saw a threat to their established order, so feminism was co-opted and molded to their agenda. Now with the majority of women working, they neutralized the threat and created legions of avid (rabid) supporters.

Policy and laws were changed to promote the new agenda, and now we have to deal with an economy that usually needs 2 parents working full time to have a house, 2 cars, and 2 kids. Remove the father from the picture and the state takes over. The state now has an avid supporter, the Mother of course. It's a perfect vicious cycle that supports the feminists, the state, policies and laws, and in the end the wealthy 1%.

Let us just be mindful. We do not want to cut off our noses to spite some womyn's faces.