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Muay_Thai_MRA Said:


I agree with Docs' points here. If we say "give up on having kids" we are one step even behind the sperm back types, as they will have at least one more generation of their kin. We need a movement that says having kids ( especally boys) is good, and staying in the lives is better. We must support these struggling fathers when they don't get access and help when such men get access by telling the kids that their dad loved them very much , but has been blocked by the state in backing your mother's whims.

Each child is the next generation and should be looked upon as a great catch when we get even one from the meat grinder called PC society.

We can't let jaded men lead here. I have lost a boy, but found a better wife and still fight on!

Indeed.

A man can date a thousand women, but he only needs one good woman..

And its not as if he needs to meet that one good woman within the short time span..

Its hard work, but if men where to be a bit more selective they may be able to find their modest ambitions in the breeding chambers are within reach..

I mean, there's nothing else in a restaurant to talk about except yourselves,

Really ?

If that's your way of countering modern narcissism, I'd be interested in your reasoning.

Try reading that good old tome, "What do you say, after you've said Hello".

Telling her all about you is bound to bore her to death before the second course. Even I would expect my 'date' to pay if she was boring me. Make her do some work to earn your respect and attention. And do a bit of work at 'giving' yourself.

Asking her to tell of herself will only get what she wants to project. You have to get at her real attitudes and interests and values. You do that with less direct means.

You could talk about things outside of yourself. You could get her to talk of things outside of herself. For instance, how about Opera?

I watched an Austrian production of La Boeheme today. It was staged 'modern' but done well. The music and the singing were sublime and let's face it, if she (your dinner guest/date) can empathise with Mimi, you are on track. Personally, I would wait until the third date or so before letting her know that the centrepiece duet of the Lovers - about 'staying in together, and which uses the same thematic as 'My Tiny Hand is Frozen, which of course is the final Mimi scene as she dies - always makes me cry.

Or how about books, films, astronomy - 'come stargazing with me, after dinner' - even friggin' astrology if you want to know for certain that she is a loony, in fact talk about almost anything.

But not you.