Thread: Challenge:

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Male overcompetitiveness rings important here, but as Percy states the list is endless.

I would say that most problems in society are caused by our own ignorance and fear, which is exploited by others for profit. Spinmeisters since WWI have understood the power of pandering to people's insecurities and prejudices, and modern technology allows the dissemination of propaganda on a scale only dreamed of by tyrants of old.

Religion used to provide guidance on these issues by pointing out human weakness and suggesting alternative behaviours. Now the West is consuming itself in mindless materialism and self-absorption. Maybe every successful society reaches this point, before disappearing.

Tera, this isn't a challenge - it's just you having a laugh to yourself at our expense. You and I both know full well feminism is not to blame for each and every wrong we face in our lives. It's not feminism's fault I'm crap with money... It's not feminism's fault I got sacked from a job for being useless at it... It's not feminism's fault that my Sister's ex was an abusive prick (I saw the blood splattered up the walls)... It's not feminism's fault that the Sun goes down on an evening.

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not all problems are caused by feminists but as far as problems caused by their gun grabbing tree hugging, abortion on demand , tax and spend ,open borders progressive/liberal types, as the saying goes "close enough for goverment work"

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(Please take the time to think about this before you answer?)

Can you name or define one problem in or with society that was NOT caused by feminism?

OK, I'll accept your challenge on one condition....

FIRST you tell me 5 things that ARE caused by feminism and not men... and don't be cutsie and pick things that men do wrong or whatnot because of feminism....

TMOTS

Marx,

I'm not laughing. I think people's answers here are thoughtful and I appreciate them. Please don't assume so much. The idea behind this question is to get people thinking outside the "feminism box" and to broaden our understanding of other societal forces that are at play concerning issues that are affecting us all.

You yourself have agreed that there are other forces at work here. I think it's important to remember that, to even discuss it. If you leave those factors out of the equation altogether, I think that finding resolutions to some of our concerns will be much more difficult. I also see the harm in promoting the idea that equal rights for women means the destruction of society as we know it. Would equal rights for men mean destruction of society? Or would it mean change? If you want the support of the public (want to gain more support for this movement), and I know you do, then shouldn't we be looking at the entire picture here? All of these forces work together, they overlap, they affect one another. The economy, politics, government, capitalism, religion, culture, technology, the media...you can look at these separately, but in so doing, we may be missing something crucial to our understanding, and thus to the solutions.

Have an open mind, Marx. This question is not to mock anyone or anything. It's an exercise in critical thinking. And that's not a bad thing, is it?

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(Please take the time to think about this before you answer?) Can you name or define one problem in or with society that was NOT caused by feminism?

In another thread you claim to not be a feminist so why are you implicitly defending "feminism"?

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Bachelor Tom:

Agreed!

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(Please take the time to think about this before you answer?)

Can you name or define one problem in or with society that was NOT caused by feminism?

The White Sox have not won the Series.

Blessings

Bob

[quote=celtish;64300]In another thread you claim to not be a feminist so why are you implicitly defending "feminism"?


She's a feminist. She is here to preach feminism. DUH!

Blessings

Bob

THe thing is, those other societal pressures aren't the main focus of this site, where as men's reghts and anti-fem is.

But for the sake of argument... the fault of all mass suffering COULD be laid at the door of the "isms". Whenever someone takes on an ideology that is not organically their own they stop thinking for themselves. People get so caught up in being part of a group they can no longer objectively examine the group's true motives.

Examples:

Nazism was justified as being Germany's saving grace, but anyone outside of the movement who could think objectively saw it for what it was. Too bad the Nazi's shut them up right quick.

Feminism is justifed as giving women equal rights. But it's actually making it difficult for us to live in harmony as nature intended.

Socialism is justified as being the only form of government that takes care of everyone. What it really does is give the state complete control, and discourage excellence.

I suppose what i'm getting at is that when people join a herd mentality instead of thinking for themselves, the world is bound to suffer.

The closer we get to real equality, the bigger the outcry will be for an end to feminism. It is an end that I would like to see! And in the US, as in other western countries, we're actually there, I think. Sexism may still exist, but legal equality exists. And I think that in some cases, certain remedies (like quotas) need to go. They aren't helping anything, they are harming. And I think it's time now to shift the focus a bit and take a good look at men's rights and issues.

In other areas of the world, like China, the Middle East, and India, feminism still has a strong need to exist. Those women do not have equality and are very much being oppressed. If men were treated the way these women are treated, I think you would agree that something needs to change.

Muay Thai:

I understand what you're saying. A "herd mentality" can be harmful. But I think there needs to be a balance ....individual's rights with the collective well-being of the group. As faulty as our system may be, without a form of government to protect the well-being of the group it represents, there would be chaos.