But it was still a Government and Governments by definition assert an influence on its citizens.

You're basically asking "how much" that of course is a subjective.

I still stand by my assertion that "Government is Government".

An you also know and understand that empires crumble, even the lamb like beast that is America!!

There's no such thing as a leftist libertarian. The political spectrum from left to right is more government on the left and less on the right - both the GOP and the Democrats are left wing parties, actually. Or if you want to keep the current spectrum with communism on the left and fascism on the right, the spectrum is actually a circle with communism and fascism being almost the same thing.

The government has no job in regulating society or legislating morality. Laws should be based on the natural rights of individuals - life, property and so on - and those should be protected by the government. That should be the sole purpose of government - enforcing the rights of individuals, defense and regulate a few limited things.

When government will be taken out of the economy, just like the church was taken out of government, the world will become a better place and people will be more responsible. Collectivist thinking breeds hate, racism, sexism, victimization and guilt and these are the real cultural problems of the world. Feminism, Racism and so on are all collectivist groups seeking privileges over other groups.

Of course there is. There a huge history of anti-Statism within the left

Where libertarianism allows no-fault divorce, abortion, etc. leftists can go along with this. They have very significant common ground.

Limbaugh likes to imbue his show with libertarianism. Indeed many in the mainstream "conservative" circle like to count libertarians as compatibles and allies. However this is deception. Libertarianism is far from conservative or rightist.

Yes it does.

Or at the very least, it can.

Who are you to come out with these definitive statements on how a Government can approach social and moral issues?

"Natural rights" hmm... Such as the "right" to on demand abortion?

A bunch of Liberals/Libertarians in the Supreme Court define what "rights" are and they do it in such a way as to precipitate a Liberal Matriarchal society. That's the end result of your system.

No the Government should intervene where-ever necessary - e.g. eradicating feminism.

Otis,

Your intro is as stinging as it is pointed. Well done.

I am glad for the few females that see the feminist sham for what it is, and encourage such to find their roles in life not dictated to them by PC-police and emotions; however, as a gender, they are, were and will continue to be unqualified for certain roles in life. Yes, that is a sexist, egotistical, hypocritical, bigoted view, in some estimations, and as a man without compromise to the extent I am able and aware, I will not succomb to compromise through any acquiescence to the feminist and homosexual (stated) goal of equality. Given that those holding such an opinion are people I would not choose to associate with since their inherent ideals are inverse to mine, including in the political forum, their opinion serves only to encourage me.

Yes there is. In fact, I would say most libertarians are more sympathetic with the left than the right.

This is a healthy summation of the party. They are typically folks who are more principled and Constitutional in direction than either Reps or Dems; not that their individual principles are necessarily healthy or moral, but they do tend to weather the storms of time better than Reps and Dems, who tend to shift values and priorities where the party lays them down and says "get onboard or you're not an X."

Libertarians, from my experience, are far more independent, but also more scatterbrained, due to a lack of political agenda. I like this. It provides leeway for people who are sick of politics in general (as every generation gets at some age) and just want to live life and be left alone by government. When I get old, I want to be left alone to enjoy my twilight years.

The Libertarian party has defined a general idea of who they are and what they want. As an observer of liberals, and as one frequently amused by feminists, there is very little I would stomach from the left... killing innocent, unarmed and unheard people without rights would be at the top... but liberals serve to keep me sharp and practiced against their emotional sensationalism. As a participant with conservatives, their cowtowing and compromise to the left is sickening, but some of their core values, even if not presently visible in platform, reach to my core, and will remain. So, I can see a Libertarian party melding people of various stripes together, if boundaries are respected. And I guess that might make it a political party. I am uneasy with this, since I do not see politics as the way out of our national crisis.

Time will tell, it always does.

You do realise the Libertarian Party unequivocally supports on-demand abortion?

That is just the tip of the iceberg as to the incompatibilities between conservatism and libertarianism.

I believe conservatism and libertarianism are like water and oil.

Libertarianism will not and cannot uphold the core conservative values you said you sympathise with.

Pure Libertarianism would mandate open borders and abortion on demand, clearly purely left wing ideals.

Clearly, pure Libertarianism is junk and it's proponents are insufferably obnoxious; but the basic libertarian principles of a limited government focused mainly on the protection of private property rights with absolutely no social engineering cannot in any way be considered a good outcome for liberals or Feminists.

without going into too much polysci breakdown of libertarianism and conservatism, I would say that gun toting liberals and weed smoking conservatives are the voters that would be most friendly to libertarian ideals

like Amanda Marcotte? I doubt it.

Then I would not join such a party. I have not. I am simply sick of a conservative party that strays from its moorings anytime it is politically expedient, and even more sick of liberals going about killing innocents, theirs and others', in the spirit of "freedom" and feminism. For God's sake, a good percentage of abortions now are done by oral poison, with the only inducer of guilt to the killer being a string of blood in the toilet.

That said, eight years of Bush did nothing about Roe v. Wade or illegal immigration.

I didnt know amanda is second amendment friendly?

The Sanctity of Life Act was introduced by a libertarian/republican. The conservatives didn't do it.

Libertarians would support no fault divorce but there would be no alimony. I wonder who this benefits?

Ending the war on drugs would keep many innocent men out of prison.