Approaching change.

**Bmiricle** · 4th-November-2010

Upon a recent conversation I had with one of our members here I decided to create a thread to discuss some issues.

The misogamy aspect of our little world here is rearing its head quite often. This is not about women bashing folks. It’s about our rights as men to live peacefully and strive to be better at…well…just being men. I respectfully ask that we don’t refer to the general population of women as “bitches” or “trollops” and such misogamist terms that demean the entire gender. By doing this you are no better than the right wing feminist movement that has caused the same problems we attempt to overcome and stem by promoting more positive aspects of life as a man, or, dare I say it, woman. (*cringe).

Those of you promoting MGTOW have a good ideal with it. I only wish to see you doing it as a freedom gaining aspect of way of life. Not only to “stick it to the bitches.” I’m on board with the marriage institution being shit, and our family law area being bias and unjust, and in that I feel as by going your own way you do, in your own way, absolve that problem for yourself. In turn I ask that you don’t consider those of us who still strive to find meaningful relationships with (human) women ignorant of truth, or setting ourselves up for disaster. By doing this you demean us, and portray us as imbecile sub-men who aren’t capable of retaining collective intellect do to our “hunger for pussy.” I can assure you this is not the case every time.

I fully appreciate the mess our society is in do to acts of misandry, bias feministic law systems, and general persecution of the male gender. I’m a product of such things. I only wish to see a positive approach used to regain our status as human beings with the right to live under no strain to fight for life’s glory in terms of a fucked society.

I would like to see more positive aspects and approaches to our health, mentally and physically. Instead we focus on the negative of misandry, which don't get me wrong, is important to us as to not forget the horridness of, but in that I'd like to hear in equal reserve the positive of being a man. Things we can and have done to improve upon ourselves are equally important as those atrocities we've seen that degrade and hurt us as a gender.

**rohara** · 4th-November-2010

I am right there with you!

**Bmiricle** · 4th-November-2010

Quote from rohara

I am right there with you!

The negativity is there, it's good to be aware of it. But I believe positivity is also a must.

**Marx** · 5th-November-2010

BAM!

Now I have to ask... do you refer to our conversation, or has someone else spoken about it too?

**Bmiricle** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from Marx

BAM!

Now I have to ask... do you refer to our conversation, or has someone else spoken about it too?

Twas ours sir...twas ours.

**Percy** · 5th-November-2010

Well stated, Sir.

It is easy and perhaps lazy to see all women negatively. It is a reaction to the pain we all feel. But in truth there are some fine women out there and we men were meant to be close with them.

The social conditions created by feminism's negativity toward decent men cannot be changed by hating 'women'.

**Zuberi** · 5th-November-2010

No deal!
Keep the change!

**haute macabre** · 5th-November-2010

I agree with you.

Fighting misandry with misogyny isn't going to get us anywhere or vice versa.

**Zuberi** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from haute macabre

I agree with you.

Fighting misandry with misogyny isn't going to get us anywhere or vice versa.

It's not misogyny if you ignore them.

The horde will not mend the wreckage anytime soon. They will continue to demonize men and refer to male toddlers as potential rapists just for being born.
For that, the horde deserves nothing!

**haute macabre** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from Zuberi

It's not misogyny if you ignore them.

The horde will not mend the wreckage anytime soon. They will continue to demonize men and refer to male toddlers as potential rapists just for being born.
For that, the horde deserves nothing!

I'm talking about misogyny that refers to guys that hate females. Not all guys do it but there are ones that are like that.

Both genders have their fair share of asshatss.

**Bmiricle** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from Zuberi

No deal!
Keep the change!

Honestly I figured as much. So here you go Zub...a bit of condescending assholeness. Go fuck yourself.

**Zuberi** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from haute macabre

I'm talking about misogyny that refers to guys that hate females. Not all guys do it but there are ones that are like that.

Both genders have their fair share of asshatss.

The sad part is that any man or woman can be branded a misogynist for not supporting feminism. I guess that makes us all misogynist.

Quote from Bmiricle

Go fuck yourself.

I'm sure you've done that to yourself plenty times, junior.

**Bmiricle** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from Zuberi

I'm sure you've done that to yourself plenty times, junior.

Here we go Zub. You honestly must be the biggest piece of shit I've ever heard open it's flaps. As far as I can tell you're an angry little boy with a chip on his shoulder because of past dealings with an abusive mother or father and maybe a bit of little man syndrome thrown in the mix. You contribute nothing to anything by even existing. For that I commend you as it is quite a feat indeed.

Junior? Kiss my dick you self-serving fuckall of life. I've seen more in my 28 years than you'll ever experience your pathetic existence. Grow the fuck up and find a new hobby other than lurking around on the internet you ridiculous excuse for a human being.

There's your condescending asshole you cunt.

**Zuberi** · 5th-November-2010

Quote from Bmiricle

Here we go Zub. You honestly must be the biggest piece of shit I've ever heard open it's flaps. As far as I can tell you're an angry little boy with a chip on his shoulder because of past dealings with an abusive mother or father and maybe a bit of little man syndrome thrown in the mix. You contribute nothing to anything by even existing. For that I commend you as it is quite a feat indeed.

Junior? Kiss my dick you self-serving fuckall of life. I've seen more in my 28 years than you'll ever experience your pathetic existence. Grow the fuck up and find a new hobby other than lurking around on the internet you ridiculous excuse for a human being.

There's your condescending asshole you cunt.

I'm going to let this slide because obviously you're piss drunk and don't know the meaning of the word "Sober". Do yourself a favor and lay off the get dumb potion.

**zetamale** · 5th-November-2010

first for bmricle and zub theres no need to fight, we get it you two hate eachother

second, i completely agree, i get frustrated when i see all women labeled as well anything being innately inferior, stupid, etc. It makes your head throb some days