Allow me to please clear things up as a WOMAN on this forum.

[Zuberi]

That being said, I have to admit. There is an extremely angry undercurrent running through this whole site.

What did you expect?
This place isn't exactly a beauty salon........

[outdoors]

Fuck,I am glad I didn't read the other thread.

[Celtic Druid]

Ah, what a cutesy introduction. Well onyxmoon000, you trotted out a load of regurgitated feminist nonsense about circumcision and hygiene, to which I countered and provided adequate references and empirical sources. This was completely ignored by you.

You then repeat this dizzy attitude about men in your family "that had to be clipped later in life as well as the friends..." Referring to circumcision and genital mutilation (depending on age) as if these males were cattle doesn't help you at all. How do you describe females being subject to circumcision?

And please provide proof to backup you're assertion you were prevented by an admin from posting on a topic? And people give Julie a hard time?

Update:

So wait a minute, something I supposedly said to onyxmoon in some private sinister fashion, was actually something I publicly posted a day before on another thread. UK Government: End Unnecessary Male Circumcision in The UK

Can anyone, without stretching credibility, point out where she's banned from posting?

She originally claimed I specifically said "I'm an admin you better watch your mouth" and then retracted it because the link shows differently.

What misleading theatre plays forth..............

Aren't we supposed to be vehemently opposed to females misrepresenting their interactions with males on AM?

Maybe I should also seize opportunity to devise a list of the gullible males who chivalrously sought to aid an unknown female vs myself who's given years of committed and loyal service. If I have misgivings about a new member it's based on a lot of experience, with the safety of the forum as a primary concern. I can understand why good men become become so disenchanted with the men's movement.


I can't work out if she's stupid, conniving or otherwise.

[Marx]

And please provide proof to backup you're assertion you were prevented by an admin from posting on a topic? And people give Julie a hard time?
Can anyone, without stretching credibility, point out where she's banned from posting?
She originally claimed I specifically said "I'm an admin you better watch your mouth" and then retracted it because the link shows differently.

I think she's referring to your statement "Be careful of the next thing you utter.", which is still on the post.

Obviously it's not a 'ban' as people can't be 'banned' from individual threads... but I think it fair to say she perceived threat given your admin position in conjunction with the warning to watch her words. To my interpretation, it's an understandable error of expression she used.

[Celtic Druid]

I think she's referring to your statement "Be careful of the next thing you utter.", which is still on the post.

Obviously it's not a 'ban' as people can't be 'banned' from individual threads... but I think it fair to say she perceived threat given your admin position in conjunction with the warning to watch her words. To my interpretation, it's an understandable error of expression she used.

Certainly, but we can all engage in a 'perceived threat' to push our own politically correct ends. I told Popadis similar in the 'Please Barn me' thread, where I said "Just remember in future before you run you're mouth across everything, to think before inputting." Pops could have equally got on the paranoia bandwagon, but he didn't.

I tell many members every week, from a protective perspective of the forum, in many colourful ways to 'watch their mouth.'

It still doesn't detract from her categorically stating I said: "I'm an admin you better watch your mouth" when I clearly didn't. It undermines everything she says after that. This is what needs to be addressed. It seems she has bitten off more than she can chew!

Just as I told POPS nobody disrespects me, nor does anybody pass false judgement upon me.

[Popadibs]

Certainly, but we can all engage in a 'perceived threat' to push our own politically correct ends. I told Popadis similar in the 'Please Barn me' thread, where I said "Just remember in future before you run you're mouth across everything, to think before inputting." Pops could have equally got on the paranoia bandwagon, but he didn't.

I tell many members every week, from a protective perspective of the forum, in many colourful ways to 'watch their mouth.'

It still doesn't detract from her categorically stating I said: "I'm an admin you better watch your mouth" when I clearly didn't. It undermines everything she says after that. This is what needs to be addressed. It seems she has bitten off more than she can chew!

Just as I told POPS nobody disrespects me, nor does anybody pass false judgement upon me.

More than a 'member of AM' or 'admin' you are a fellow brother. I got so caught up in making that stupid joke referencing the 'mouth comment' that I missed the obvious opportunity to stand up for a fellow man, not just another man but a fellow man. Next time shit like that happens and I see it and post a response I'm sticking up for you or any of my other brothers.

I think that you try to be fair as possible and don't get ban happy but try to give members warnings. Plus, you keep an eye out for possible infiltration from what I can tell. You and I won't agree many times but we agree on the core issues. We agree that men are treated unfairly and that something needs to be done about it. We may not agree on the solutions, though.

I don't really trust a lot of female members for the very behavior that you highlighted. Females don't mind lying, leaving out the truth, etc. to slander a man. In fact, they do it often during child custody, divorce proceedings, domestic violence calls, etc. and more women try to "correct" me for saying these things than the women who correct or at least check the women who are guilty of what we speak of. Even fewer women will even admit that these things are wrong.

Personally, I don't know what took place between you and she but I should have stood up for another brother the same way I stood up for wh666 in his response to julie.

[onyxmoon000]

Do you even know who I am??? I'm not a feminist at all! If you knew me you would know that I was one of the more well known women against feminism... And how come when I click on that post it says I'm not allowed to post anything else??? Wow all I can see is you calling me names "She's stupid" "Your Ditsy Comments" You know and I also don't see why you banned me nor took anything I said to offense because that wasn't the issue, I wasn't even trying to argue, but you made it an argument! I tried to apologize and I'm sorry you can't even take it. Go ahead, ban me, ban me over something completely stupid that you're not choosing to look into, because I'm keeping note of all the name calling you have just done. And I'm going to be the bigger person an not call you any. Because God forbid, for all the man hating feminazi's that send me death threats and nasty comments on a daily basis I sure as hell haven't disabled them on my page. What if I was a man and said the same thing that I said on the initial post? You probably wouldn't even care. So if I can find a way to block you, I will, but if banning me will make you feel better, go for it, I don't need to sit here and take your rude comments and name calling just because you're an admin, like it makes it okay.

Added after 10 minutes:

Aren't we supposed to be vehemently opposed to females misrepresenting their interactions with males on AM?

And about that, are you trying to say that all females are man haters? Because I'm sure as hell not, I'm in the same boat as you. I'm here for the same reason, because I'm not? I thought females were allowed to be on here? You saying because I'm a female I have no rights to speak against mens rights? That's fucked up because I think I've done a lot for my own community being a woman against feminism and a female MRA. But I guess this guy thinks we can't. Sorry that I stand up for my man! And nothing I said was going for or against circumcision. I don't even know if I should say anymore because obviously someones got a stubborn attitude and refuses to take a reassuring and apology for things that people took the wrong way.

[Celtic Druid]

Do you even know who I am??? I'm not a feminist at all! If you knew me you would know that I was one of the more well known women against feminism... And how come when I click on that post it says I'm not allowed to post anything else??? Wow all I can see is you calling me names "She's stupid" "Your Ditsy Comments" You know and I also don't see why you banned me nor took anything I said to offense because that wasn't the issue, I wasn't even trying to argue, but you made it an argument! I tried to apologize and I'm sorry you can't even take it. Go ahead, ban me, ban me over something completely stupid that you're not choosing to look into, because I'm keeping note of all the name calling you have just done. And I'm going to be the bigger person an not call you any. Because God forbid, for all the man hating feminazi's that send me death threats and nasty comments on a daily basis I sure as hell haven't disabled them on my page. What if I was a man and said the same thing that I said on the initial post? You probably wouldn't even care. So if I can find a way to block you, I will, but if banning me will make you feel better, go for it, I don't need to sit here and take your rude comments and name calling just because you're an admin, like it makes it okay.

Calm down, dear.

You aren't anywhere near receiving an infraction, let alone a ban (a longer process). I just took umbrage with you misrepresenting what I said and being inconsistent in postings. As for you not being able to post anything else on a thread, I have no idea. If you use the report function then I'm sure Karl (Marx), who's more technically adept than me, can help you out. It will also help to disprove the conspiracy theory you've repeatedly propounded, that I've somehow hindered access.

Originally Posted by Celtic Druid
Aren't we supposed to be vehemently opposed to females misrepresenting their interactions with males on AM?

And about that, are you trying to say that all females are man haters? Because I'm sure as hell not, I'm in the same boat as you. I'm here for the same reason, because I'm not? I thought females were allowed to be on here? You saying because I'm a female I have no rights to speak against mens rights? That's fucked up because I think I've done a lot for my own community being a woman against feminism and a female MRA. But I guess this guy thinks we can't. Sorry that I stand up for my man! And nothing I said was going for or against circumcision. I don't even know if I should say anymore because obviously someones got a stubborn attitude and refuses to take a reassuring and apology for things that people took the wrong way.

You certainly have a knack for reading into things which aren't actually being said. I'm sure regular members here, looking at the quote in context, wouldn't have so fundamentally misread what I said. You make theatre where there is none. Now, you toddle off to the naughty step and think about what you've said, and maybe engage in some overdue introspection.

[Marx]

Omoon, you are not barred from posting in that one thread... The software I use can't do one-thread bans.

I need you to take a screen-cap when you get the error message saying you can't post, please.

[wh666]

Calm down, dear.

You certainly have a knack for reading into things which aren't actually being said. I'm sure regular members here, looking at the quote in context, wouldn't have so fundamentally misread what I said. You make theatre where there is none. Now, you toddle off to the naughty step and think about what you've said, and maybe engage in some overdue introspection.

Moon may have been a bit upset but I don't think she needs to be patronised. Just my two cents, not trying to inflame anything.

You aren't anywhere near receiving an infraction, let alone a ban (a longer process).

Nope, you have to really attack people like Julie, in return to their attacks, to get an infraction. I'm quite proud of mine because it was a righteous attack. Do I get a badge and some kind of award ceremony?

[onyxmoon000]

I went to recap it, I'm unbanned now! Wonder what the hell that was about. But anytime I went to click to reply it said "You've been removed from posting additional content to this thread" or something along those lines

[Celtic Druid]

Moon may have been a bit upset but I don't think she needs to be patronised. Just my two cents, not trying to inflame anything.

So you're a selective white knight?

Originally Posted by Celtic Druid You aren't anywhere near receiving an infraction, let alone a ban (a longer process).

Nope, you have to really attack people like Julie, in return to their attacks, to get an infraction. I'm quite proud of mine because it was a righteous attack. Do I get a badge and some kind of award ceremony?

Sarcasm aside, I didn't actually give you an infraction. It's down to the discretion of individual admins to dispense infractions based on their own worldly judgement (and/or consultation). That said, no infraction is actually final as they can be contested, and a number have been overturned in the past. Although you obviously want to keep yours.

You're relatively new, so you have no idea the number of chastisements, infractions and bannings I and fellow admins have slapped on Julie over several years. Context!

And, as I stated elsewhere, I won't be unduly influenced by the pitchfork-wielding mob. I'll deliver my considered decisions in a calm and collected manner.

[wh666]

So you're a selective white knight?

I wish I was a knight, it would hide my ogre demeanour

I'm not charging to Moon's rescue because of her gender, far from it. I think my "special" relationship with one forum member shows I am far from a feminised white knight.

Sometimes I am slightly more tolerant (in normal life/out of this thread) of what I see wrong from males than females, only because I see hypocrisy in some women who say in one breath "equality" and in the next incite fascism. I wouldn't consider myself a "masculinist" at all, just someone who wants equality, but even to get close to equality, we must fight positive discrimination/affirmative action, which is at the heart of misandry.

But in general life, on AM and the point I was making above is, if appropriate, I will offer my opinion if in my mind, someone is being judged a bit harshly, be it woman, man, etc.

Sarcasm aside, I didn't actually give you an infraction. It's down to the discretion of individual admins to dispense infractions based on their own worldly judgement (and/or consultation). That said, no infraction is actually final as they can be contested, and a number have been overturned in the past. Although you obviously want to keep yours.

It was correct to give me one and correct for me to commit the infraction, so everyone wins.

And, as I stated elsewhere, I won't be unduly influenced by the pitchfork-wielding mob. I'll deliver my considered decisions in a calm and collected manner.

Completely agree.

Whether one agrees with a mods decision or not, it is their discretion how to moderate the site. Some can put forth their opinion, but ultimately you all decide what happens, based on the rules of the forum. As I said I wasn't trying to inflame anything and it is up to a mod how to do their job.

You're relatively new, so you have no idea the number of chastisements, infractions and bannings I and fellow admins have slapped on Julie over several years. Context!

Oh indeed, I can quite believe that one!

[KellyMac]

So you're a selective white knight?

No, CD, you truly were patronizing. Go back and read what you wrote and imagine it being written to you.

[onyxmoon000]

I'll deliver my considered decisions in a calm and collected manner.

I don't feel like any of your responses were calm and collected. I got called names numorous times and you pretty much stated in an earlier comment to go "Sit on the naughty step and think about what you said", I was taking it you were calling me a child. I may be a young adult and what not, but I don't care if you're 3, 15, 55, 9000 or Jesus, if you've got a right then you've got a right. So I think I'll just stop responding to you over all. It doesn't look like this is positively escalating at all.