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I sincerely doubt some of those statistics and the credibility of their sources, but I will say this: women are no more "virtuous" than men. That's a myth (women being more "pure") that needs quashed into the ground.

With all due respect, TMOTS...I believe that is what I said, if you cared to read the rest of the very first sentence above.

that would mean that you would have to acknowledge that *SOME* women are just as bad as *SOME MEN*.

I think Tera has acknowledged that time and time again, TMOTS.

I think the article is humourous and has a bite. It can be put to good use. But let's not lean too far overboard, lest we lose our grip.

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This is the kind of reframing of the argument that needs to take place.

It's hard work getting men to change their frames of reference regarding women. We just have to keep chipping away I suppose. I've been using the phrase female chauvinist pig for decades. When terms like that slip into common usage we will start to get somewhere. The majority of men still don't even know what misandry is.

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It's hard work getting men to change their frames of reference regarding women. We just have to keep chipping away I suppose. I've been using the phrase female chauvinist pig for decades. When terms like that slip into common usage we will start to get somewhere. The majority of men still don't even know what misandry is.

After NOW has clearly demonstrated that beyond argument, I think that term is now appropriate..

most wimin are narcissists reality orbits aroud theirego - or else !!!!

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The majority of men still don't even know what misandry is.

That's why this place exists - to try and bring the word in people's vocabulary. Also, I agree with ChristianJ's comments... FCP is the right term given feminism's attitude towards men and boys.

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In the USA that comment could make you guilty of domestic violence.

We can better that one. In our state/country if you deny her the money to buy a pair of shoes, that's domestic violence..

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With all due respect, TMOTS...I believe that is what I said, if you cared to read the rest of the very first sentence above.

I read it. What you SAY HERE and what you say and do otherwise are entirely two different things methink.

TMOTS

I think you think too much....lol

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We can better that one. In our state/country if you deny her the money to buy a pair of shoes, that's domestic violence..

While neither seem to be perfect people...Alec Baldwin had an interesting comment in his interview RE his new book about Dads / divorce / family court / alienation.

He said that in his marriage ~"all dissent was considered abuse". On any issue between he and his wife, if he offered his view and it was not 100% supportive of her view, then he was being abusive.

I guess his "job" in her view was to donate sperm to her, to shut up, and to pay child support, with no parental rights postdivorce.

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That's why this place exists - to try and bring the word in people's vocabulary. Also, I agree with ChristianJ's comments... FCP is the right term given feminism's attitude towards men and boys.

Well when I used the fcp term in the 80s I got a fairly surprised look, but that was it, at least these days there's often a wry smile and you can see a few cogs turn in their heads. But it still hasn't slipped into common useage.

All women are sows!