Ever notice that lots of times one looks, dresses, and acts like a man, and the other like a woman?

Why not just get a *real* man?

If you're all for equality, why not both of you go androgynous?

Yep, i've noted this too. It's why they're usually referred to as either:

Martha and Arthur

LOL Never heard of that! Martha and Arthur!

You have it there in a nut shell. Alexandra this inconsistency and dishonesty is at the root of feminism envy and hatred of men by lesbians who lust after women!!!!
They display this through their desire to usurp and undermine men at every turn. What they condemn in men they practice themselves.When they loudly condemn violence against women they neglect to mention lesbian violence - its far more prevalent than the media pretend. Lesbians have a code of honour where noone mentions this.They dont mention the abhorent stifling nature of their realtionships which are based on a lie. Women who turn away from feminism get death threats.Women who speak out against feminism the same.Look at the disgracefeul treatment on campus of Phylis Schafly.
Notice to how lesbians want to make women more mannish whether via taking up mens sports weightlifting,boxing, rugby, drugs come in here as well. I remember the sad parents of a daughter who took up body building. To achieve it she had to take steroids. They lost their daughter and got a poor imitation of a son.....Thats the sick sorry result of all this gender bending and all the other woes we write about on this forum..

because they don't fancy men. Just like gay men don't fancy women.

they make the best of what they are given when they were born. Some people are lesbians, some are straight and others are gay.

They say that intolerance generally comes from jealousy, or fear of the other.

It's part of an older lesbian-feminist paradigm which says most of the problems in the world come from men ...

Feminists and lesbians have always been synonymous. Lesbians are the mainstay and the backbone of the feminist movement.

" 'Any women can be a lesbian,' says the song,' Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice,' goes the slogan. And to many women, the 'women's community' is a lesbian community." Source: Beth Elliot, " Bisexuality, the best thing that ever happened to lesbian-feminism?," in Bi Any Other Name: Bisexual People Speak Out. Loraine Hutchins and Kaahumanu (eds.), p. 324, 1991.


Feminists have always encouraged lesbianism and promote it even now. Lesbianism, they say is the ideal situation for women as it exempts male from the relationship. They promote it as some type of utopia, the ultimate euphoric aim should be to pursue this outcome.
They promote, that any relationship without a male will be a more caring, loving and will be exempt from violence and abuse...More lies...

Some of the facts..
A six-city survey conducted by gay activists last year turned up 1,566 reported incidents of gay domestic violence, several hundred more than reported incidents of anti-gay harassment and violence. People are really surprised, especially around lesbian battering.
The notion among feminists, lesbians - among women in general - is that this is a male problem. It's part of an older lesbian-feminist paradigm which says most of the problems in the world come from men and if we could isolate ourselves from them, then things would be kind of idyllic. It's not true. But people in lesbian communities don't want to talk about that publicly. It's like airing dirty laundry. Source: Ros Davidson, " Gay-on-Gay Violence: The gay community's dirty secret - domestic violence - is finally coming out of the closet," Salon Magazine, February 27, 1997.
And
While exclusively being a lesbian has little threat of getting AIDS, lesbians have their own set of problems. Domestic violence among lesbian partners is so high that workshops on the subject are popping up around the country. Source: The National Women's Alliance, " From Silence to Voice: A Conference on Partner Violence in Lesbian relationships," C. Nicole Mason, reported by Winnie McCory, Baltimore Gay Paper, 16 April 1999, p. A2, and " Lesbians Right Summit," National Origination for Women (NOW), Jan Collins, Denise Joson, C. Nicole Mason, Chris Mason, and Lois McKieth, "Partner Violence in Lesbian Relationships," 3:30 - 5:00 pm., 23 April 1999.

This association has been there since early feminism reared it's male-hating head in the 60's. This was the time when feminists were screaming and abusing anyone that had the audacity to question it. Any resistance to their lies and exaggerations were met with violence and abuse.

At least feminists hate all males equally, even gay men...

Lesbian activist and author Lillian Faderman wrote: " because a general disenchantment with and suspicion of all males was central to lesbian - feminist doctrine, the gay man was naturally seen as being no less an enemy than any other human with a penis, and lesbian-feminists could make no lasting coalition with gay men in a gay revolution." Source: Lillian Faderman, Odd Girls and Twilight Lovers (NY: Columbia University Press, 1991 ), p. 212.

So any female that confesses to being a feminist supports this mentality and promotes it just by association. I wonder how many of these brainless harpies even considered this or would promote this vilification of ALL Men, even if they were aware ?

Professor Lori B. Gishick, a professor of sociology and women's studies at Warren Wilson College in North Carolina, has worked for about 10 years in battered women's organizations and has run a support group specifically for abused lesbians. The "myth that women are not violent," is persistent and contributes to a denial of woman-to-woman sexual violence, not only among the general population but also among lesbians, says Girhick. " We want to believe that our relationships are safe, that we have equality, and that we have ideal communities. But it's not true." The estimated incidence of domestic abuse in gay and lesbian relationships is one out of three. Girshick says a large number of her respondents, as children and adults, had also been sexually abused , and that the memories of these previous traumas often complicated their reaction to being assaulted by women.

According to Grishick, many of these women read books about woman-to-woman sexual violence; they went into therapy; they volunteered at rape crisis centers. For people who are part of a small lesbian community, the social implications of speaking out against their abuser can be terrifying. Girshick reports that some women did become ostracized when they told others. " I've heard stories of individuals who say ' My friends turned against me and protected her.'" There are only a handful of groups for women battered by other women in the country. Source: R. Morgan Griffin, " Breaking the Silence: Sociologist Studies Woman-to-Woman Sexual Violence," GayHealth.com; May 10, 2000.
Still think DV in Man's fault alone ?
Another study of 113 lesbians reported that 41% said they had been abused in one or more relationships. Source: Ristock, J., "And Justice for All?...The Social Context of Legal Responses to Abuse in Lesbian relationships," (1994) 7 Canadian Journal of Women and the Law 420.
So another feminist lie uncovered and exposed for the liars they are. It gets better.
"Only 2% of heterosexual women had been in treatment for alcohol or 12-step programs, compared with 17% of lesbians - a large difference. This may be the result of prior heavy drinking among lesbians. Or it may be that lesbians are more aware of substance abuse issues than are heterosexual women. One of the questions in the survey is ' Have you ever wondered if you had a drinking problem?,' to which 47% of lesbians answered yes compared with only 14% of the heterosexual women." Source: Esther Rothblum, " Dyke Psyche - Do Lesbians Drink More Alcohol Than Heterosexual Women? ", Baltimore Gay Paper, September 16, 1999: vol.20, no.24, p. A13.

Lesbians are not only abusers of the worst kind, nothing is worse than being attacked or abused by a female even though this is poo-poohed when women sexually abuse young school kids.

In one study, 15% of lesbians engaged in torture for sexual fun (sadomasochism) that included "piercing, cutting or whipping to the point of bleeding" with their lovers. Source: Lemp et al, "HIV seroprevalence and risk behavior among lesbians," American Journal of Public Health, 1995; vol. 85: pp1549-1552.

Lesbians get their kicks in other ways as well. Why stop at abuse when you can draw blood..

The National Lesbian Health Care Survey revealed that lesbian women reported that over 50% of the nearly 2,000 lesbians surveyed had considered suicide and 18% had attempted it. Source: Bradford, J., Ryan, C, & Rothblum ED, (1994), " National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for mental health care," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62 (2), pp. 228-242.
Also
In a obituary study released in 1994, 140 lesbians in the sample died at a median age of 45. 23% of the lesbians lived past the age of 64, as opposed to 83% of women in the general population. Overall, 20% of lesbians died a violent death - 512 times the rate of white females aged 25-44. Also 7.1% of lesbians died of AIDS - 41,00 times more than heterosexual females 24-44. Source: Paul Cameron, Phd., " The Gay Nineties," ( Franklin, Tennessee, Adroit Press 1993 ), pp. 54-56.
So abuse, torture, alcoholism, drug abuse and violent deaths seems to lead lesbianism into the "one to avoid" category, I would think. Not really that healthy and loving relationship, is it.
In one study in 1998, it was found that 30% of the recruited sample of lesbians had evidence of genital Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) infection, including 19% of exclusively lesbians. Certain strains of HPV are known to be cervical cancer-causing agents. 90% of all cervical cancer is caused by genital HPV infection. Source: Marrazzo,JM, Koutsky, LA, Stine, KL, Kuypers, JM, Grubert, TA, Galloway, DA, Kiviat, NB, & Handsfield, HH, (1998), " Genital HPV Infection in Women who have Sex with Women," Journal Of Infectious Diseases 178 (6), pp. 1604-1609.
Feminists on some of the forums on the web are busy blaming males for this exact thing..again more feminist exaggerations. The old "blame the male" game is loosing it's wheels very quickly.

Another study of lesbians reveals that: "Genital HPV infection and squamous intraepithelial lesions are common among women who are sexually active with women." Source: J.M. Marrazzo and others, "Genital human papillomavirus infection in women who have sex with women," Journal of Infectious Diseases, December 1998, from the abstract, p. 1604.


And to top it all off, lesbians suffer more than anyone else. Because they're fat, boozers and do not eat right. Sort of puts all those claims that women are the epitomy of loving, caring and the only one capable of communicating in a relationship.....

There is some evidence that the prevalence of certain risk factors for breast, endometrial, or ovarian cancer might be higher among lesbians, a report released in 1999 by the national Institute of Medicine stated. The report's authors said various studies on lesbian health suggest that certain breast cancer risk factors occur with greater frequency in this population. Factors include higher rates of smoking, alcohol use, poor diet, and being overweight. Source: Rhonda Smith, " Lesbian Health - New option for treating ovarian cancer patients," The Washington Blade, June 9, 2000, p. 32.

Great research there Cj.

I wonder how many false accusations of DV perportedly by men against women are in fact women against women.