19 Years ago the wall came down...
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- 3rd-October-2008 #1
19 Years ago the wall came down...
Well not exactly that date but we celebrate it today (so I don´t have to go to work). It is a really young national holiday. I can still remember (I was 7 years old) seeing it in TV when the people from east Berlin in thousands just went throught the boarder. I at my young age could politicaly realise what exactly was happening, but I felt that it was actually something very imporant.
Today there was a serious running about people fleeing the DDR. One of that story was so interesting I really like to share with you.
Ingo Bethke was a soldier protecting the boarder and found a way he could escape. So one day he went to the borderline cut the wire, went through a minefield with a broom (!!!), escaped the patroling guards and escaped via an aribed on the river Elbe.
Now Ingo had an brother Holger who wanted to escape as well. He searched and found a building near the boarder of west Berlin. On one night he shot an arrow with a small wire on it above the boarder. His brother was standing on the other side. Took the arror and they used the wire to put up a zip line 20 meters above the boarder. He was sliding undetected above the boarder guards into freedom.
Wow that was one family. And there was still one brother left Engelbert.
So the 2 brothers on the western side had a new project. They both learned to fly ultra-light planes. Painted them in a carmouflage pattern with a red star on it (so boarderguards don´t shoot them down when detected) fly above the wall landed took their brother and returned to western Germany.
They taped the last rescue from the DDR and it was really touching to hear them on the radio.
If you like to see that....look here:
Hauptsache Rüber-Mit dem Flugzeug in die Freiheit, Bethkebrüder - Truveo - Video Suche im Web
the records of the flight start arround 20:20....
This is just awesome.....Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
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Re: 19 Years ago the wall came down...
I recall the wall's downing being on the news here in England... It didn't mean a whole lot ot me at the time, but I understood the basics it.
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when the wall came down the politically correct bilge for mind control by whicht the USSR kept its citizens in line permeated to the west and now is the official language of the feminits and is spoken in the academia of wimmins studies
objective meaning of words are changed feminits have a whole glossary of cant - discrimination harassment equality sexism affirmative action glass ceilings equal opportunity etc etc ...
which they repair to when they see a possible benefitfor them at the expense of the hapless menfolk
these slogans and buzz words are employed during their incessant whining about apparent benefits that men enjoy by dint of hard work but the femints see it as "why not me too" glass ceiling whatever
why shouldn't she have a salary of $400 000 per year and perks after all she is Phi Beta Kappa in wimmins studies
it would not do to accuse a feckless lazy complaining spoilt wimin of such this surely would be harassment or some other standard feminit play for unearned benefits or even sexist the trump leading to feminit court time
the baseness of the feminit controlled universities which are just halls for brainwashing students in feminitism came to the fore in the Duke Lacrosse Case - how the feminit faculty squiremed!!!!!
is there no bottom to the baseness of feminitism they have even corrupted the english language a scenario painted brilliantly by Orwell's 1984 - the Ministry of Truth a puffed up mendacious nomencalture to camouflage its promotion and acceptance of lies for the population acceptable to Big Brother
nowdays Big Sister ({})
- 10th-September-2009 #4
Re: 19 Years ago the wall came down...
20 years comming closer. In my little town they put up a little boarder fence with a Trabi driving through. What they also put up, what I didin´t realise at first, was such a thing

What looks a bit like a megaphone is actually a spring gun. A bitter reminder about the roughly 200 people that died trying to escape the GDR. One particular comes to mind
If an escapee was wounded in a crossing attempt and lay on the death strip, no matter how close they were to the Western wall, they could not be rescued for fear of triggering engaging fire from the 'Grepos', the East Berlin border guards. The guards often let fugitives bleed to death in the middle of this ground, like in the most notorious failed attempt, that of Peter Fechter (aged 18). He was shot and bled to death in full view of the Western media, on August 17, 1962. Fechter's death created negative publicity worldwide that led the leaders of East Berlin to place more restrictions on shooting in public places, and provide medical care for possible “would-be escapers”
Still impressive yet the many successful attemps.
United....this always makes me sentimental...Early successful escapes involved people jumping the initial barbed wire or leaping out of apartment windows along the line but these ended as the wall was fortified. To solve these simple escape attempts, East German authorities no longer permitted apartments near the wall to be occupied and any building near the wall had to have their windows boarded up. On August 15, 1961, Conrad Schumann was the first East German border guard to escape by jumping the barbed wire to West Berlin.[54]


Memorial to the Victims with prophetic graffiti, 1982
Later successful escape attempts included long tunnels, waiting for favorable winds and taking a hot air balloon, sliding along aerial wires, flying ultralights, and in one instance, simply driving a sports car at full speed through the basic, initial fortifications. When a metal beam was placed at checkpoints to prevent this kind of escape, up to four people (two in the front seats and possibly two in the boot) drove under the bar in a sports car that had been modified to allow the roof and wind screen to come away when it made contact with the beam. They simply lay flat and kept driving forward. This issue was rectified with zig-zagging roads at checkpoints. The sewer system preceded the wall, and some people escaped through the sewers, in a number of cases with assistance from the Girmann student group.
An airborne escape was made by Thomas Krüger, who landed a Zlin Z 42M light aircraft of the Gesellschaft für Sport und Technik, an East German youth military training organization, at RAF Gatow. His aircraft, registration DDR-WOH, was dismantled and returned to the East Germans by road, complete with humorous slogans painted on by RAF airmen such as "Wish you were here" and "Come back soon". DDR-WOH is still flying today, but under the registration D-EWOH.Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html
Blog:
http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/
Fecks Warcraft File:
http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-ma...ile-16039.html
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- 10th-September-2009 #5
Re: 19 Years ago the wall came down...
This December there will be 20 years since the Romanian revo... I mean coup d'etat.
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they didn't look very sure of themselves when they were shot against the wall and I guess not a moment to soon
- 10th-September-2009 #7
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I remember it very well, because I had always been deeply aware of cold war issues. It was an amazingly riveting time.
Strangely enough though, I’ve just finished writing to someone else about other political issues in Germany in the 1970’s. That particular ‘autumn’ (fall) that you had in one of your 70’s years. It went on a bit, just like some of my posts here – well actually not even that short. But coincidently I also wrote about the walled city and made a remark about JFK’s speech there in the 1960’s about the division and the wall.
I had forgotten it is the anniversary, so it felt weird to see this string when I was writing about the wall and that speech JFK made as a moral boost.
The comment I wrote to this person was that when he said, “Ich bin ein Berliner” it was little more than a cold war PR gimmick. I know the audience there loved it and cheered in approval, but it seemed it was for a global audience and part of the tense brinkmanship that was so much the norm in those decades. The 70’s were my teenage and I suppose I was in tune to the tension of that time.
But now I see this string, I thought of asking you if you got a view about it; about that statement “Ich bin ein Berliner”. What are your views on me thinking it was just a piece of cold war theatre. Or was the statement seen differently by the Germans.
The only Germans that have given me their opinions on this were people who were not that impressed with JFK for their own reasons. And they confirm my view, but their views, like mine may have been a little polarised about this. I wouldn’t imagine you’re like them.
So what would you say was the statement a stunt; or could it be that that the wall may have come down in ’89, but were the first ‘cracks’ made two and a half decades earlier in the German psyche, with that speech? Or what else if different to these two options?
By the way: Happy anniversary; united Germany.
Ps I know it was a great party, oh god the raves you had in Berlin in the following years were something else, but did you have to be so generous swapping those Ost-Marks though? The massive pressures that brought on the Deutche-Mark, led to a readjustment of the ERM at a time when the pound tried to peg. It was one of the prime factors, amongst a number of other factors like George Soros, that crashed the pound in ’92. It felt like we had to pay for your party!
Sorry, I just can’t help ranting to save my life can i?
So happy anniversary again.
- 10th-September-2009 #8
Re: 19 Years ago the wall came down...
Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html
Blog:
http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/
Fecks Warcraft File:
http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-ma...ile-16039.html
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Re: 19 Years ago the wall came down...
I remember it well because of another event that was important to myself regard something German coming down..
My second wife's knickers..
I met her at this time and she was rather impressed with what happened..
She was not so keen on the wall coming down though..
She still moans about the East Germans all the time, and how they are "foreign" and have too many kids..
I told her that was a bit cheeky since she had 5 with an English person..
She did not see the funny side, but, she is German so I guess I can forgive her for that!
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