Thread: Custody dispute was to be dealt with in family court today

This is shocking. Humans can be real nasty.

Perhaps we should care about chickens instead. Those cages they live in are not good.

More from the story;

Custody battles take too long, expert says

Cases of family dramas and custody battles ending in homicides occur every year. A special committee was formed to look at the phenomenon.
Yves Bolduc, Quebec's health minister, said "the committee will look at causes and solutions, but it is unrealistic to think we can stop these tragedies from happening. But we can definitely reduce the number."

A study conducted by the in 2009 showed that about a dozen children are killed by their parents every year in Quebec, a figure above the national average.

Abe Worenklein, a clinical psychologist, said the best way to oversee possibilities of violence and infanticide is to have a psychologist mandated by both parents look over the case on behalf of the children.

Another psychologist, Pierre Thériault, said "youth protection needs to monitor cases of domestic violence more closely, regardless if the children have been directly targeted or not."

As it stands, Quebec youth protection services only get involved in custody cases if there are reports the children are physically harmed.

Legal experts have been pointing at the length of time court procedures take for custody battles and believe this can add emotional stress to all parties involved.

Even though the University de Montreal says it is "parent's" that kill the kid's.

Psychologist, Pierre Thériault says they need to monitor,"domestic violence",more closely.

I think we all know this means "father's".

This is Quebec,home of Lepine, where the villification and demonization of men is normal everyday life.

Where it is only men that perpetrate d.v. and women are the sole victim's.

I can only imagine that this tragedy will in general be used to further the misandry against father's.

As a matter of fact I would bet on it.

As long as the lawyers, the psychologists, and all the other feeders at the trough of deliberately created human misery get their nice fat fees..

You make a good point Outdoors about psychologists becoming more involved in custody disputes. NZ has a law (not sure if it's through it's final reading) that will have all parties being interviewed along the conveyor belt (process) to see if there is any psychological abuse occurring to the children. This will also cover any emotional abuse.

By the looks of the lists explaining what emotional and psychological abuse is, I don't think it's a sex issue, but I can see the benefits to have people thinking it is.

Employment racketeering.

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Employment racketeering.

Yep.

Funny, how the system constantly backs men into a corner. And, then acts shocked when one loses his grip on reality and good judgement.
1 man acted like MANY women do. The man will be painted a monster while the murderous women will be "victims".
We will never reduce the occurrence of such atrocities without an honest discussion on its' causes.
1 of which is mothers permanently severing ties between children and fathers with no cause. And, with no repercussions. Had this man felt he had even a reasonable chance of being dealt with honestly and fairly in a family court what are the chances he would have even considered this irrational act?
Frankly, I am surprised that despite the poor treatment of men in family courts men have still not surpassed women in such crazy acts. It speaks well of men to be able to hold onto their principles in the face of such discrimination and harm to their children.

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Funny, how the system constantly backs men into a corner. And, then acts shocked when one loses his grip on reality and good judgement.
1 man acted like MANY women do. The man will be painted a monster while the murderous women will be "victims".
We will never reduce the occurrence of such atrocities without an honest discussion on its' causes.
1 of which is mothers permanently severing ties between children and fathers with no cause. And, with no repercussions. Had this man felt he had even a reasonable chance of being dealt with honestly and fairly in a family court what are the chances he would have even considered this irrational act?
Frankly, I am surprised that despite the poor treatment of men in family courts men have still not surpassed women in such crazy acts. It speaks well of men to be able to hold onto their principles in the face of such discrimination and harm to their children.

I agree,if men were so brutally violent as the Canadian government pastes them,there would be a lot more dead people.

I put an event forward for single fathers and mothers last night. It was an excellent party held in a warehouse and everyone paid $5 entrance. It was sooo good that many more parties will be held here/there.

It was awesome to met dads in my group that I haven't yet met and after listening (between dances, lol), I have decided I will write about every family court order/application (describe what it is and what it does) and what everyone needs to focus on to get through the process.

NZ is fortunate in that every couple breaking up gets 6 free counseling sessions to work out parenting and property though the court won't accept a property deal through the counseling without a lawyer being consulted.

I want to walk people through the process because I think it's the 'not knowing', the 'what happens next' and 'what should I do' questioning that's tipping people into stress - not eating, sleeping, functioning in everyday life, ..... all the way to suicide.

Sure the process needs to be shortened, and like education, the more they add, the crazier it gets to come out ready for the rest of one's life.

I am encouraging people to represent themselves. The costs for the privilege to be in the family court is insane while the process itself is 'OMG, what bull is going on here - in the courtroom'.

It's bureaucracy, pure and simple IMO and people need to know what the process is, IMO.

I told a dad last night who had a parenting order signed between him and his now ex during their good days and doesn't agree to it anymore, that he is best to put the children's welfare in every paragraph when he fights through the court to change what he once agreed to.

I have arguments with child services who also use the family court about the process. Politicians, for popularity have made it so the children are gone before the process is even started IMO, but that's another cause altogether.

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Funny, how the system constantly backs men into a corner. And, then acts shocked when one loses his grip on reality and good judgement.

Good point. To add... then because the father either attacks or defends, the actual case is off track and away from the best interest of the child.

Quebec's health minister, said "the committee will look at causes and solutions, but it is unrealistic to think we can stop these tragedies from happening. But we can definitely reduce the number."

these tragedies would be reduced to zero if men didn't sign up to the new age marriage contract and holidayed in Majorca or Acapulco instead with the $$$$ saved

this guy was smart enough to see that his status as a sperm donor and financier to his ex to be was to be terminated with extreme prejudice in the feminit Family Court which is simply a nom de plume for a new age Stalinist style star chamber

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Quebec's health minister, said "the committee will look at causes and solutions, but it is unrealistic to think we can stop these tragedies from happening. But we can definitely reduce the number."

these tragedies would be reduced to zero if men didn't sign up to the new age marriage contract and holidayed in Majorca or Acapulco instead with the $$$$ saved

this guy was smart enough to see that his status as a sperm donor and financier to his ex to be was to be terminated with extreme prejudice in the feminit Family Court which is simply a nom de plume for a new age Stalinist style star chamber

C'mon, shaz, you don't really believe this, surely. Young people both men and women need relationships and desire love -belonging and acceptance, plus, plus. Isn't it better to help them find a good partner than say, "Don't go there?" Afterall, we can't stop life and nature.

the misnamed Family Court is a psychopathic institution that just don't understand relationships and desired love and certainly that guy knew what to expect

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. . . it is "parent's" that kill the kid's . . this tragedy will in general be used to further the misandry against father's..

I find it difficult to believe a dad would do this to his kids deliberately. And apparently the bureaucratic STATE knows best as it wages more war on "the family" in general. According to them it winds up seeming like people just love to kill for absolutely no good reason but then again why bother & look beyond that which tends to justify ones own very existence.

What ever happened to the valor of dying in battle? Such suicide is senseless stupid when one can always make a much better point by taking *non-innocent* buddy with ya ! Why is it even in REBELLION we tend to be slaves to conventional notions & conformity ?

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Young people both men and women need relationships and desire love -belonging and acceptance, plus, plus. Isn't it better to help them find a good partner than say, "Don't go there?"

So TRUE but BEWARE: long term "love" & "marriage" tend to be mutually exclusive, wholly UNRELATED !