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    TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    Glen Poole is a radical voice in the world of gender equality campaigning on issues like fathers' rights, men's health inequalities, male suicide, boys' educational underachievement, male role models and men and boys' personal safety.
    He first came to prominence as PR Director of Fathers 4 Justice and was described by the group's founder as "the most impressive campaigner" he'd
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    Glen is now the UK co-ordinator of International Men's Day and Strategic Director of The Men's Network, a dynamic social project based in Brighton
    & Hove that hosted the UK's First National Conference for Men and Boys in 2011.


    About TEDx, x = independently organized event:


    In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x = independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations).


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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    A fantastic presentation, Glen. I liked the 'top trumps' analogy used, very good indeed.
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    Very interesting. Glen is a good advocate of positive thinking on men's issues on a par with his US namesake, Glenn Sacks.

    My only criticism is that Glen shies away from the causes of men's inequality in the developed world.

    When there are global disparities of (say) wealth between nations we analyze the causes in minute detail. Lack of resources, corrupt governnment, natural disasters etc etc.

    When it comes to gender inequality, and Glen describes men's problems very succintly, we wring our hands in anguish and put it down to modern social trends. Behind every "social trend" there's a whole lot of real people pushing and shoving for their own advantage.

    In rich western countries, there's just no excuse for the poor quality of life that many men must endure.

    Perhaps Glen understands the reasons very well but is keeping his head down because he doesn't want to risk either alienating his audience or bringing the wrath of feminists down on his head. It may well be that he's 'boxing clever', in terms of what is currently politically acceptable. If so, he should be given the benefit of the doubt and applauded for what he's doing.

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    I believe, rightly or wrongly, Glen is trying to simply retain people's attention, for now, by not having them huff off in a hurry. As feminism currently is seen as a politically correct movement, people associate with it positively... despite the glaringly obvious misandry promoted or at least endorsed by most feminists.

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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    Quote Quote from Marx View Post
    I believe, rightly or wrongly, Glen is trying to simply retain people's attention, for now, by not having them huff off in a hurry. As feminism currently is seen as a politically correct movement, people associate with it positively... despite the glaringly obvious misandry promoted or at least endorsed by most feminists.
    I daresay you're right Marx.
    In the dumbed-down world of global media, truth, honesty, integrity and loyalty must always take second place to retaining people's attention.

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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    !!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!

    It doesn't even seem necessary for me to comment on or try to review the content of this moving video, which is superb, and groundbreaking, and courageous, and humane, and I'm running out of words. Doesn't happen often with me, as my faithful here know.

    What I do want to talk about is the audience. I could hear them sort of clapping at the beginning and the end, so there's some evidence they were alive and the mikes were working. But, here is a gifted presenter, easygoing, comical, motivated, using anecdotes, statistics, jokes, testimonial, analysis, all with effortless delivery and utterly welcoming to wide diversity in his audience.

    And they sat there in silence like a chamber music recital.

    With the right billing, introduction, lighting, drinks at tables, and people with a pulse above 65bpm, this precise same presentation could be done before five thousand people, except he'd have to pause constantly for the applause and raucous laughter. This is not only a world-class entry as an activist presentation, it is just plain entertaining. The guy knows how to own that stage.


    And these people just sat there. Moment after moment went cricket-chirping by when I was expecting at least a clap or laugh or two.


    Through my laptop I could almost smell the fear in the room. Of the girlfriend or wife sitting next to the men, and knowing all too well what the drive home will be like if one of them thinks something is funny or moving and she doesn't. Humor is a minefield between men and women, and clearly the rules of engagement over what is and is not funny were well established before Glen ever booked the appearance.

    And the real beauty was, he knew it. A public speaker's worst nightmare is a catatonic audience, and clearly Glen has faced this before, and his rhythm and timing and physicality said to his audience that they didn't know what they were missing. I have never seen a presenter so at home with his material in such a funereal setting.

    That, my friends, is courage.

    So, from me to you, sir: ROFLMAO and a standing "O". You earn them.
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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    Glen has agreed for AM to reproduce any work he has done from the Men's Network.. So, we'll be seeing more of his input in the near future
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    I have had an epiphany.

    Men's rights and issues are a broad realm, and objectives are hard to define.

    What I want to see soon is a world where it's safe to laugh again.
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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    It doesn't even seem necessary for me to comment on or try to review the content of this moving video, which is superb, and groundbreaking, and courageous, and humane, and I'm running out of words. Doesn't happen often with me, as my faithful here know.
    What I do want to talk about is the audience. I could hear them sort of clapping at the beginning and the end, so there's some evidence they were alive and the mikes were working. But, here is a gifted presenter, easygoing, comical, motivated, using anecdotes, statistics, jokes, testimonial, analysis, all with effortless delivery and utterly welcoming to wide diversity in his audience. And they sat there in silence like a chamber music recital
    Did you expect Jerry Springer as a born-again MRA? Just because the audience was silent it doesn't mean they weren't thinking. They were definitely not catatonic - just pensive. ]
    Cultural disparity here. Leave the whooping, screaming and hollering to Jerry and Oprah. British auidiences are more reserved.
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    Did you expect Jerry Springer as a born-again MRA? Just because the audience was silent it doesn't mean they weren't thinking. They were definitely not catatonic - just pensive. ]
    Cultural disparity here. Leave the whooping, screaming and hollering to Jerry and Oprah. British auidiences are more reserved.
    Thanks to Percy for this.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ju1QhGDDwo

    Maybe the audience was British but the guy on stage was English.

    Nice to hear something other than that aristocratic, Oxford-sounding BBC accent so favored by recent emigres with college educations. I got the feeling that attending the event must have been more socially and academically important than actually paying any attention to the content other than to filter it through the usual academic sieve that allows politically incorrect messages to go unregistered in the brain.

    It reminded me of seeing the Wynton Marsalis Septet at the opera house in Santa Fe. Seven black guys from New Orleans playing suave and urbane music you'd have to be half-dead not to get stirred up by, and the champagne-drinking yuppie professionals were snoozing in their seats, as if being seen there as evidence that they could afford the ticket (a day's pay for me, and now my date is the mother of my daughter, so a big deal, NTM I love jazz) actually meant more to them than the Monk and Bird and Miles that were just sizzling off the stage.

    Whether politics or economics or both place one in a class, there are class rules, and men arguing eloquently for "all of us together, men and women, against inequality", under the rules one would expect among a TED audience, are definitely not funny.
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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    Softly softly catchy monkey.


    Great work, a very polished performance.


    Just one complaint ............. you done stole my analogy


    I'll expect my royalty check soon
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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    Wow, what is a 'TED' presentation.

    Before I heard what this fellow had to say, I was littered with a three letter anagram, which invoked my healthy scepticism.

    Is the fellow an opportunist? He speaks for everybody, but doesn't really stand for anything. He talks about concepts but doesn't provide answers.

    A likable chap who has more to say.
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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

    @felix

    I agree with you whole heartedly with regards to the equality stuff but what I found to be good about this was that he delivered the message well, yes it was wrapped up in fluffy equality speak but he was effective in pointing out the double standards and wrongheadedness of the feminist mindset, whether or not the disguise is intentional doesn't really matter, what matters in my opinion is that men can hear the message without it being drowned out with boos and shame.

    It's red pill lite, an introductory course to reality with a soft landing.

    To continue your Olympic analogy it can work towards "the aggregate of marginal gains".
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    Re: TEDxLSE - Glen Poole - A New Gender Agenda

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    Not sure what the last sentence means!

    I am waiting to see what GP suggests folks do to in attempt to "correct" the problem areas..

    If its just more asking the state control freaks for "equality" then it will need more than just that even if the numbers asking are high..

    True activism is about more than just asking those in power to do things because you think they should because "its not fair"..

    Or selling tickets to your shows..

    It doesn't matter if he has no suggestions of what to do, his work is getting the message out and things won't change until enough men are awake enough and prepared to starve the beast, you're right that going to the state cap in hand is not the answer, the answer lies in men withdrawing support from state and women, not begging for their help.

    "The aggregate of marginal gains" was a term coined by Dave Brailsford (British track cycling team manager) meaning that every small improvment made culminated in a larger overall improvement in an athletes performance and this philosophy can be applied to anything.
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    Every mans eyes opened is a "marginal gain".

    Ah right, not sure how this could work when applied to say, a large number of MEN.. If one was to take note of the olympic experience.. Yesterday I was watching a big screen while eating at am eatery.. The olympics where on and the topic was.. women athletes and how great they are, how far they have come.. blah blah..

    It was always going to be the "BBC womens Olympics", the reality is though that one only has to look at times and records to see why women need to be segragated in order for them to win anything.


    Perhaps, long distance swimming?

    10k swim: women competitors were an average of eight mins behind the male competitors.


    Simply by not paying into the idiotology that gives women VAST gains at mens expense!

    That is the message we're trying to get out.
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