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    Michael Cox freed from prison

    Some excellent comments following the article - especially from george Rolph.

    It looks as though men are beginning to realise how they have been brainwashed with feminism for decades and now begining to fight back.

    Perhaps it is time for Men-4-Justice group to be started to collect and coordinate 'new' men - real men!

    http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/display.v...rom_prison.php

    Fathers 4 Justice dad freed from prison
    By Kate Thompson
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    Michael Cox
    Michael Cox

    HAMPSHIRE dad Michael Cox was dramatically freed from prison last night after an appeal hearing.

    Mr Cox, from Hythe, was sent to prison last week after failing to comply with an order to repay the Child Support Agency a total of 42,000 in unpaid child support.

    He had argued that he looked after his children 50 per cent of the time and was therefore not liable for the other half.

    His ex-wife Lesley Peach had also written to the court asking that he was not committed to prison as it would force her out of work and on to benefits.

    Sitting in Bristol Crown Court, Mr Justice Gray gave Cox unconditional bail with a view to quashing the sentence after hearing representations from Mr Cox's legal representative.

    Mr Cox said: "Today's decision is a victory for common sense. By making this stand I hope that my colleagues and I in Fathers 4 Justice have sounded the alarm, to warn parents that family law is in a state of national emergency."
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    Posted by: George on Today
    Given what happened last time this guy was featured here, I'd urge all the knee-jerk angry single mothers and what-not to look at the facts of [italic]this case[/italic] before launching into another "cut his goolies off" tirade
    Given what happened last time this guy was featured here, I'd urge all the knee-jerk angry single mothers and what-not to look at the facts of this case before launching into another "cut his goolies off" tirade
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    Posted by: anon on Today
    Common sense prevails! If only I thought that this would start a cascade effect and that other fathers who take good care of their children but are demonized by the CSA would get the chance to redress the balance and not pay ridiculous sums to bolster government figures. Sadly I imagine this will be a one-off......well done to Michael Cox and his ex though for uniting against surely one of the most hated organisations in this country. I hope Mr Cox continues in his efforts to get fair treatment for all victims of the CSA.
    Common sense prevails! If only I thought that this would start a cascade effect and that other fathers who take good care of their children but are demonized by the CSA would get the chance to redress the balance and not pay ridiculous sums to bolster government figures.
    Sadly I imagine this will be a one-off......well done to Michael Cox and his ex though for uniting against surely one of the most hated organisations in this country. I hope Mr Cox continues in his efforts to get fair treatment for all victims of the CSA.
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    Posted by: Adrian Smith, Chelsea on Today
    I am pleased that a Court in Bristol was able to see through the actions of a drunken person, staggering around, throwing a punch, hitting an innocent bystander and then collapsing into its own vomit - sorry I mean the CSA. Granting Michael Cox his freedom was the only sensible thing to do - he was never an absent parent until the state imprisoned him for 10 days. Let's hope that his children go on to understand that he stood up to an organisation not fit for purpose, an organisation the Government is closing down in the near future. Let's hope he challenges the CSA and the Government in the Lords and take the matter to the European Court of Human Rights if required. I for one, will support Mr Cox, who will be remembered in the future, like we remember Emmeline Pankhurst and Rosa Parks.
    I am pleased that a Court in Bristol was able to see through the actions of a drunken person, staggering around, throwing a punch, hitting an innocent bystander and then collapsing into its own vomit - sorry I mean the CSA. Granting Michael Cox his freedom was the only sensible thing to do - he was never an absent parent until the state imprisoned him for 10 days. Let's hope that his children go on to understand that he stood up to an organisation not fit for purpose, an organisation the Government is closing down in the near future. Let's hope he challenges the CSA and the Government in the Lords and take the matter to the European Court of Human Rights if required. I for one, will support Mr Cox, who will be remembered in the future, like we remember Emmeline Pankhurst and Rosa Parks.
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    Posted by: Andrew, Southampton on Today
    I am a father of three wonderful children who has them 50%+ of the time. I hold down a full time job, get no tax benefit and am still expected to pay the CSA. Because I am not seen as the primary carer, due to my ex wife having them -50% of the time I am expected to pay this. She does not work and has no intention to while the state looks after her. How can this be?
    I am a father of three wonderful children who has them 50%+ of the time.

    I hold down a full time job, get no tax benefit and am still expected to pay the CSA.

    Because I am not seen as the primary carer, due to my ex wife having them -50% of the time I am expected to pay this.

    She does not work and has no intention to while the state looks after her.

    How can this be?
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    Posted by: Big Dan Gleebles, Soton on Today
    Andrew, Southampton.. I'm with you mate. I inherited 2 kids when i met my partner (2 great kids, who asked ME to adopt them), and there "absent father" (he lives 5 miles away and works cash in hand) has never paid a penny in the 11 years i've been around. I have 2 kids of my own and have paid CSA for the 12 years since i was asked to leave. At one stage one of my children moved back in with me for four years. My CSA went down 8. The CSA should go down in history as one of the biggest destroyers of family values.
    Andrew, Southampton.. I'm with you mate. I inherited 2 kids when i met my partner (2 great kids, who asked ME to adopt them), and there "absent father" (he lives 5 miles away and works cash in hand) has never paid a penny in the 11 years i've been around. I have 2 kids of my own and have paid CSA for the 12 years since i was asked to leave.
    At one stage one of my children moved back in with me for four years. My CSA went down 8.
    The CSA should go down in history as one of the biggest destroyers of family values.
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    Posted by: NOT TELLING on Today
    I HAVE JUST HAD AN ASSESSMENT AND TOLD I HAVE ARREARS AND PAYMENTS SHOULD BE 10 PER WEEK WHEN SCRUTINSING THE FIGURES IT APPEARED THE CSA MISSED OFF SOME PENSION PAYMENTS AND MORTGAGE PAYMENTS AND THAT THE ASSESSMENT IS ACTUALLY NIL I URGE ALL TO CHECK THE FIGURES TWICE THE CSA DO NOT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT !!!
    I HAVE JUST HAD AN ASSESSMENT AND TOLD I HAVE ARREARS AND PAYMENTS SHOULD BE 10 PER WEEK

    WHEN SCRUTINSING THE FIGURES IT APPEARED THE CSA MISSED OFF SOME PENSION PAYMENTS AND MORTGAGE PAYMENTS AND THAT THE ASSESSMENT IS ACTUALLY NIL

    I URGE ALL TO CHECK THE FIGURES TWICE THE CSA DO NOT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT !!!
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    Posted by: George Rolph, London on Today
    There is a real war going on against the family, fathers and men in this country, led by a bunch of bitter feminists in the government. We need to wake up to what they are up too. They would have you believe it is all about equality but it is not, its about revenge for half imagined "wrongs"
    There is a real war going on against the family, fathers and men in this country, led by a bunch of bitter feminists in the government. We need to wake up to what they are up too. They would have you believe it is all about equality but it is not, its about revenge for half imagined "wrongs"
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    Posted by: Greer on Today
    [bold]George Rolph[/bold] wrote: There is a real war going on against the family, fathers and men in this country, led by a bunch of bitter feminists in the government. We need to wake up to what they are up too. They would have you believe it is all about equality but it is not, its about revenge for half imagined "wrongs"
    I agree. Women being portrayed as sex objects in the media is "mysogyny", but men being treated as sex objects in the media is "women being empowered". Point to the equality in that. The "making up for wrongs in the past" argument is flawed, as well. That's the same line of thinking whereby Jews are persecuted because "they" killed Jesus. The same thinking whereby Germans of today are abused as Nazis

    George Rolph wrote:
    There is a real war going on against the family, fathers and men in
    this country, led by a bunch of bitter feminists in the government. We
    need to wake up to what they are up too. They would have you believe it
    is all about equality but it is not, its about revenge for half
    imagined "wrongs"

    I agree. Women being portrayed as sex objects in the media is "mysogyny", but men being treated as sex objects in the media is "women being empowered". Point to the equality in that. The "making up for wrongs in the past" argument is flawed, as well. That's the same line of thinking whereby Jews are persecuted because "they" killed Jesus. The same thinking whereby Germans of today are abused as Nazis
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    Posted by: George Rolph, London on Today
    [bold]Greer[/bold] wrote:
    [bold]George Rolph[/bold] wrote: There is a real war going on against the family, fathers and men in this country, led by a bunch of bitter feminists in the government. We need to wake up to what they are up too. They would have you believe it is all about equality but it is not, its about revenge for half imagined \"wrongs\"
    I agree. Women being portrayed as sex objects in the media is \"mysogyny\", but men being treated as sex objects in the media is \"women being empowered\". Point to the equality in that. The \"making up for wrongs in the past\" argument is flawed, as well. That\'s the same line of thinking whereby Jews are persecuted because \"they\" killed Jesus. The same thinking whereby Germans of today are abused as Nazis
    It is also the same logic used by terrorists. Most of the arguments about men "oppressing" women are also untrue generalisations. Feminists have sworn to destroy the family as they see it as a hotbed of male oppression. Hense left wing governments constantly finding news ways to attack it whike making critisism of single mothers virtually illegal.

    Greer wrote:

    George Rolph wrote:
    There is a real war going on against the family, fathers and men in
    this country, led by a bunch of bitter feminists in the government. We
    need to wake up to what they are up too. They would have you believe it
    is all about equality but it is not, its about revenge for half
    imagined \"wrongs\"

    I agree. Women being portrayed as sex objects in the media is \"mysogyny\", but men being treated as sex objects in the media is \"women being empowered\". Point to the equality in that. The \"making up for wrongs in the past\" argument is flawed, as well. That\'s the same line of thinking whereby Jews are persecuted because \"they\" killed Jesus. The same thinking whereby Germans of today are abused as Nazis

    It is also the same logic used by terrorists. Most of the arguments about men "oppressing" women are also untrue generalisations. Feminists have sworn to destroy the family as they see it as a hotbed of male oppression. Hense left wing governments constantly finding news ways to attack it whike making critisism of single mothers virtually illegal.
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    Posted by: George Rolph, London on Today
    Sorry about the typing...In a hurry.
    Sorry about the typing...In a hurry.
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    Posted by: Micky Thornton, London on Today
    [bold]George Rolph. well said mate![/bold] They go on about women not having the vote but never say that ordinary blokes did not get it until just ten years before them and they had to die in their thousands to get it from the rich. Millions of blokes died in wars to protect their families and they is how they get repaid by feminism. [bold]Its sick![/bold]
    George Rolph. well said mate! They go on about women not having the vote but never say that ordinary blokes did not get it until just ten years before them and they had to die in their thousands to get it from the rich. Millions of blokes died in wars to protect their families and they is how they get repaid by feminism. Its sick!
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    Posted by: Big Dan Gleebles, Soton on Today
    Steady Greer -Step away from the Valium- i think you read too much into what George was saying. If you're a man without care, it seems to be that you are guilty until proven innocent and our ex's can say what they like whether it's true or not and then we have to prove them wrong. My ex told the CSA that of MY daughter was going onto college. that meant that she could still collect Child benefit and that meant that i had to carry on paying CSA. After two weeks she stopped going, but i was informed that i still had to pay until the term finished (?). The only reason it stopped was because she got pregnant, and after having the baby she is entitled to child benefit herself. Now my ex is playing the same trick with my son, even though he has told me that he does not want to go. When i told the CSA, i was told that once the "ball is rolling" i will still have to pay until the end of term, even if he stops going. Now how is that fair?
    Steady Greer -Step away from the Valium- i think you read too much into what George was saying.
    If you're a man without care, it seems to be that you are guilty until proven innocent and our ex's can say what they like whether it's true or not and then we have to prove them wrong. My ex told the CSA that of MY daughter was going onto college. that meant that she could still collect Child benefit and that meant that i had to carry on paying CSA. After two weeks she stopped going, but i was informed that i still had to pay until the term finished (?). The only reason it stopped was because she got pregnant, and after having the baby she is entitled to child benefit herself.
    Now my ex is playing the same trick with my son, even though he has told me that he does not want to go. When i told the CSA, i was told that once the "ball is rolling" i will still have to pay until the end of term, even if he stops going.
    Now how is that fair?
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    Posted by: George Rolph, London on Today
    [bold]Micky Thornton[/bold] wrote: [bold]George Rolph. well said mate![/bold] They go on about women not having the vote but never say that ordinary blokes did not get it until just ten years before them and they had to die in their thousands to get it from the rich. Millions of blokes died in wars to protect their families and they is how they get repaid by feminism. [bold]Its sick![/bold]
    Yes Micky. Look at the war memorials in any town. 99.9% of the names are male. I am not saying women did not do their bit because they did but those names are male because it has always been mostly men that die for wives and kids. Even when ships like Titanic go down the cry is, Women and children first. As oppressors we seem to have done a poor job!

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    George Rolph. well said mate! They go on about women not having the vote but never say that ordinary blokes did not get it until just ten years before them and they had to die in their thousands to get it from the rich. Millions of blokes died in wars to protect their families and they is how they get repaid by feminism. Its sick!

    Yes Micky. Look at the war memorials in any town. 99.9% of the names are male. I am not saying women did not do their bit because they did but those names are male because it has always been mostly men that die for wives and kids. Even when ships like Titanic go down the cry is, Women and children first. As oppressors we seem to have done a poor job!
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    Posted by: Toon, The Toon on Today
    The csa is partly or fully responsible for around 2 deaths a week, has named and shamed 40 fathers on it's site and had jailed Michael Cox and labelled him an absent parent. It costs this failing agency 70p for every 1 it collects and has been an administrative disaster from day1. It's time to close the doors on this agency that represents a torrid time in British history, failure of the family courts and it's support mechanisms post separation. Show your support on Friday 13th July and turn up at your local CSA office at 10am to demonstrate, shame on you CSA. A full list of branches is on the news blog of real fathers for justice website.
    The csa is partly or fully responsible for around 2 deaths a week, has named and shamed 40 fathers on it's site and had jailed Michael Cox and labelled him an absent parent.

    It costs this failing agency 70p for every 1 it collects and has been an administrative disaster from day1.

    It's time to close the doors on this agency that represents a torrid time in British history, failure of the family courts and it's support mechanisms post separation.

    Show your support on Friday 13th July and turn up at your local CSA office at 10am to demonstrate, shame on you CSA.

    A full list of branches is on the news blog of real fathers for justice website.
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    Posted by: Cat, among the pigeons on Today
    There is no such thing as female equality. If, as women contend, they are equal to men, how then were men able to keep them [italic]oppressed[/italic] for so long? I find it laughable that women seem to think that us men had some huge meeting in history, decided to keep women downtrodden and worked out ways of making them feel inferior. Come off it, womankind, you've had thousands of years to try and overthrow These Evil Oppressors, without whom you would starve to death if you didn't get eaten by something else. Why didn't you? And there's no use crying "but women do <insert womans contributions to society here>!!" either because men do not dispute that you contribute, we do not bleat about these things Here's a nice feminist myth for you: [bold]Women are stronger/superior because they have a higher pain threshold. Childbirth proves this, no man could withstand the pain of childbirth[/bold]. No sh[/bold]it! Men weren't designed to give birth. Women cannot "withstand" the pain of childbirth through any special effort or superiority on their part, it's simple biology. Might as well argue that Ferraris are superior to sycamore trees because they do 0-60 in under 5 seconds Women, if you were superior, or even equal, to men, you would not be having to struggle or strive for equality in the first place
    There is no such thing as female equality. If, as women contend, they are equal to men, how then were men able to keep them oppressed for so long? I find it laughable that women seem to think that us men had some huge meeting in history, decided to keep women downtrodden and worked out ways of making them feel inferior. Come off it, womankind, you've had thousands of years to try and overthrow These Evil Oppressors, without whom you would starve to death if you didn't get eaten by something else. Why didn't you? And there's no use crying "but women do <insert womans contributions to society here>!!" either because men do not dispute that you contribute, we do not bleat about these things

    Here's a nice feminist myth for you: Women are stronger/superior because they have a higher pain threshold. Childbirth proves this, no man could withstand the pain of childbirth. No shit! Men weren't designed to give birth. Women cannot "withstand" the pain of childbirth through any special effort or superiority on their part, it's simple biology. Might as well argue that Ferraris are superior to sycamore trees because they do 0-60 in under 5 seconds

    Women, if you were superior, or even equal, to men, you would not be having to struggle or strive for equality in the first place
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    Posted by: Hal Fulglass, Southampton on Today
    Wasn't so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something & people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments & the CSA did not exist.
    Wasn't so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something & people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments & the CSA did not exist.
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    Posted by: Andrew, Southampton on Today
    [bold]Hal Fulglass[/bold] wrote: Wasn\\\'t so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something & people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments & the CSA did not exist.
    I tried very hard to keep my marriage and a 'family environment'. Unfortunately my ex wife did not feel that way.

    Hal Fulglass wrote:
    Wasn't so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something & people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments & the CSA did not exist.

    I tried very hard to keep my marriage and a 'family environment'.

    Unfortunately my ex wife did not feel that way.
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    Posted by: Hal Fulglass, Southampton on Today
    [bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
    [bold]Hal Fulglass[/bold] wrote: Wasn\\\'t so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something &amp; people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments &amp; the CSA did not exist.
    I tried very hard to keep my marriage and a 'family environment'. Unfortunately my ex wife did not feel that way.
    Yes and I empathise with you, it always takes two to make it work. Marriages did break down in the "old days", but it was not so prevalent that it required the CSA.

    Andrew wrote:

    Hal Fulglass wrote: Wasn't so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something &amp; people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments &amp; the CSA did not exist.

    I tried very hard to keep my marriage and a 'family environment'. Unfortunately my ex wife did not feel that way.

    Yes and I empathise with you, it always takes two to make it work. Marriages did break down in the "old days", but it was not so prevalent that it required the CSA.
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    Posted by: Big Dan Gleebles, Soton on Today
    I tried to make it work too, but our problem was that we had an "open" marriage... I was "open" she'd P*** off and she was "open" i'd die sooner.
    I tried to make it work too, but our problem was that we had an "open" marriage... I was "open" she'd P*** off and she was "open" i'd die sooner.
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    Posted by: George on Today
    [bold]Hal Fulglass[/bold] wrote:
    [bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
    [bold]Hal Fulglass[/bold] wrote: Wasn\\\'t so much of a problem in the old days when family values meant something &amp;amp; people worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family environments &amp;amp; the CSA did not exist.
    I tried very hard to keep my marriage and a 'family environment'. Unfortunately my ex wife did not feel that way.
    Yes and I empathise with you, it always takes two to make it work. Marriages did break down in the "old days", but it was not so prevalent that it required the CSA.
    I think that's because in "the olden days" we as a society didn't have such high expectations in terms of speed, quality or disposability. These days we have fast food, 500 channels on TV, instant shopping and a huge amount of consumer choice. This can only serve to feed the feeling that everything people want from life comes easily and quickly, and if it's not to their taste they can simply throw it away and get another one. Stands to reason that eventually, people who grew up with this attitude will apply it to relationships as well. A lot of marriages break down these days, not because of extra strain being put on them, but because at the first sign of trouble, people just give up. That, and the fact that they expect everything to be exactly to their taste right away. And who can blame them? They've been brought up believing that's what they're entitled to

    Hal Fulglass wrote:

    Andrew wrote:

    Hal Fulglass wrote: Wasn't so much of a problem
    in the old days when family values meant something &amp;amp; people
    worked harder to keep their marriages together. Kids grew up in family
    environments &amp;amp; the CSA did not exist.

    I tried very hard
    to keep my marriage and a 'family environment'. Unfortunately my ex
    wife did not feel that way.

    Yes and I empathise with you, it
    always takes two to make it work. Marriages did break down in the "old
    days", but it was not so prevalent that it required the CSA.

    I think that's because in "the olden days" we as a society didn't have such high expectations in terms of speed, quality or disposability. These days we have fast food, 500 channels on TV, instant shopping and a huge amount of consumer choice. This can only serve to feed the feeling that everything people want from life comes easily and quickly, and if it's not to their taste they can simply throw it away and get another one. Stands to reason that eventually, people who grew up with this attitude will apply it to relationships as well. A lot of marriages break down these days, not because of extra strain being put on them, but because at the first sign of trouble, people just give up. That, and the fact that they expect everything to be exactly to their taste right away. And who can blame them? They've been brought up believing that's what they're entitled to
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    Posted by: Lady, Southampton on Today
    :-) Don't you men go on... Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own. And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)
    :-) Don't you men go on...

    Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own.
    And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)
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    Posted by: George Rolph, London on Today
    [bold]Lady[/bold] wrote: :-) Don't you men go on... Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own. And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)
    I was waiting for this "nugget" to turn up! I wonder, if the true figures could be found, how MANY men REALLY walk away because they do not care and how many are DRIVEN out and told they will never see the kids so they should not even try? My next door neighbor was told by his wife that she would call the police and tell then she was "frightened of him" if he did not shut up and that she would "see to you never see the f****** kids again either." She did call the police and she did say she was frightened of him and he was thrown out. His crime? He asked for the money she borrowed from him a month before! I saw the whole thing and told the police EXACTLY what was going on but they were deaf, as usual. He had to grovel his way back to her and now he is too frightened of losing his children to argue anymore. It is disgusting and twisted that this could be allowed to happen in our so-called society and comments like the one above from "Lady" fuel the hatred. Instead of telling your "sistas" to knock it off, you encourage it. Men have a right to "go on" and that is rich coming from a woman. We have had to listen to you moaning about us for forty years! Our system, as it stands, encourages what happened to my neighbor. Now any woman can kook a man, have a kid or two, dump him and get the house the money, the kids and the cars and the government will back her all the way. The system stinks because the system is rotten and it was made by lawyers in the house of commons all of which make fortunes off of it.

    Lady wrote:
    :-) Don't you men go on...

    Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own.
    And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)

    I was waiting for this "nugget" to turn up! I wonder, if the true figures could be found, how MANY men REALLY walk away because they do not care and how many are DRIVEN out and told they will never see the kids so they should not even try? My next door neighbor was told by his wife that she would call the police and tell then she was "frightened of him" if he did not shut up and that she would "see to you never see the f****** kids again either." She did call the police and she did say she was frightened of him and he was thrown out. His crime? He asked for the money she borrowed from him a month before! I saw the whole thing and told the police EXACTLY what was going on but they were deaf, as usual. He had to grovel his way back to her and now he is too frightened of losing his children to argue anymore. It is disgusting and twisted that this could be allowed to happen in our so-called society and comments like the one above from "Lady" fuel the hatred. Instead of telling your "sistas" to knock it off, you encourage it. Men have a right to "go on" and that is rich coming from a woman. We have had to listen to you moaning about us for forty years! Our system, as it stands, encourages what happened to my neighbor. Now any woman can kook a man, have a kid or two, dump him and get the house the money, the kids and the cars and the government will back her all the way. The system stinks because the system is rotten and it was made by lawyers in the house of commons all of which make fortunes off of it.
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    Posted by: Cat, among the pigeons on Today
    [bold]Lady[/bold] wrote: :-) Don't you men go on... Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own. And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)
    [italic]Men[/italic] go on? Pah! Lets have a look at something women have "gone on" about for ages: The prefixes "Mr", "Mrs" and "Miss". Then "Ms" The prefix "Ms" was introduced because angry feminists thought it was unfair (aww!) that their prefix denoted their marital status, whereas men had the less descriptive "Mr". The assumption was that men had the better end of the deal. WHY?? That's completely arbitrary! Men could just as easily have turned round and cried "It's not fair! I don't get to let the world know I'm married! I've only got the 'Mr' title, which doesn't denote my marital status at all! It's not fair!". But we didn't. It is in a woman's nature to "go on" about things, to be disgruntled with her lot, regardless of what that lot is, to automatically covet the artifacts of any difference between men and women, actual benefits notwithstanding. Blah blah blah And now we're told we're not manly enough simply because we don't wish to offend our mothers Argh!

    Lady wrote:
    :-) Don't you men go on...
    Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk
    away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought,
    so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should
    spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through
    no choice of their own.
    And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)

    Men go on? Pah! Lets have a look at something women have "gone on" about for ages: The prefixes "Mr", "Mrs" and "Miss". Then "Ms"

    The prefix "Ms" was introduced because angry feminists thought it was unfair (aww!) that their prefix denoted their marital status, whereas men had the less descriptive "Mr". The assumption was that men had the better end of the deal. WHY?? That's completely arbitrary! Men could just as easily have turned round and cried "It's not fair! I don't get to let the world know I'm married! I've only got the 'Mr' title, which doesn't denote my marital status at all! It's not fair!". But we didn't.

    It is in a woman's nature to "go on" about things, to be disgruntled with her lot, regardless of what that lot is, to automatically covet the artifacts of any difference between men and women, actual benefits notwithstanding. Blah blah blah

    And now we're told we're not manly enough simply because we don't wish to offend our mothers

    Argh!
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    Hmmm, this thread seems to have devolved into a battle of the sexes. Why? The story is about justice actually being done, and the wishes of both the man [bold]and[/bold] the woman involved being met. More importantly, the needs of the [italic]children[/italic] have been met, and that's really what we all want, surely? The Battle Of The Sexes(tm) is anathema to harmonious family life - lets drop it
    Hmmm, this thread seems to have devolved into a battle of the sexes. Why? The story is about justice actually being done, and the wishes of both the man and the woman involved being met. More importantly, the needs of the children have been met, and that's really what we all want, surely?

    The Battle Of The Sexes(tm) is anathema to harmonious family life - lets drop it
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    [bold]Lady[/bold] wrote: :-) Don't you men go on... Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own. And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)
    Yes! us men who face our responsibilities and pay up do go on don't we... unfortunately the point is that the CSA is failing to do it's job and catch the absent fathers. If they did i would be happier paying my pound of flesh each week and then i would'nt go on. But they don't. My partner phoned the CSA and told them where her ex was working. What did they do?... they asked him if it was true, he said no and then jacked in for a couple of weeks until it had all blown over. It's easier to get money from the fathers who are'nt running than to chase the ones who are. And yes there are women out there who cope on there own, but these women are just another list of people that the CSA have failed. Disband it now!! And give me my money back!!!

    Lady wrote:
    :-) Don't you men go on...

    Don't forget there are some (so called) men out there that just walk away from their children and responsibilities without a second thought, so the CSA is unfortunately needed in some cases. I think you should spare a thought for the women out there that have to cope alone through no choice of their own.
    And, I bet you lot wouldn't talk like that around your mothers... :-)

    Yes! us men who face our responsibilities and pay up do go on don't we... unfortunately the point is that the CSA is failing to do it's job and catch the absent fathers. If they did i would be happier paying my pound of flesh each week and then i would'nt go on. But they don't. My partner phoned the CSA and told them where her ex was working. What did they do?... they asked him if it was true, he said no and then jacked in for a couple of weeks until it had all blown over.
    It's easier to get money from the fathers who are'nt running than to chase the ones who are.
    And yes there are women out there who cope on there own, but these women are just another list of people that the CSA have failed.
    Disband it now!!
    And give me my money back!!!

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    Nice find Dogsy, thanks for post this it was most enlighting

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    Excellent, ordinary guys speaking up, it's progress

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    And why do women brag about their biology like it's a big accomplishment?

    They should be praising God, not themselves
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    Awesome... I commented too!
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