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    The feminist gravy train once again exposed. The hysterics promoted by feminists on this issue would have everyone believe that millions of abused women are catered for on a daily basis when in fact very few actually use this misandric service as the abuse at those shelters is greater than whatever it is they are fleeing from..

    Many articles have already been penned on this issue. Women Abuse shelters are just that, abusive.. Not only do they doctor the figures, it is also a very lucrative method of gaining more and more funds for what seems to be becoming a non-event..

    Feminists have this pork-barrelling down to a fine art..It's their usual method of telling the same lie often enough it becomes a truth..

    Meanwhile everyone suffers due to their greed and their utter and total selfishness..


    Fed on myths, preying on men

    Barbara Kay, National Post Published: Saturday, December 06, 2008
    November was Domestic Violence Awareness month. Truth in advertising suggests it should be Y-Chromosome Apartheid Month. Far from promoting "awareness" of a social problem or remedies for men and women with anger issues, the month is basically a radical feminist war dance around the Original Sin of maleness, cheered on by "progressive" media sympathizers.

    The annual verbal pogrom will find its apotheosis in to-day's 19th observance of the Montreal Massacre anniversary, our domestic violence industry's shrine to feminism's Big Lie of male unilateralism in domestic violence.

    It's awkward that the Dec. 6, 1989 massacre of 14 women at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal -- unlike ritual wartime massacres of men and boys, such as the 8,000-death horror of Srebrenica -- remains a freak one-off in the West, perpetrated by a lone sociopath, with neither prequel nor sequel to suggest a pattern. But emotion, not reason or facts, drives the Domestic Violence industry.

    The truth is that the more precisely identified phenomenon of "intimate partner violence" (IPV) in Western culture is gender neutral, an acting out of psychological problems around intimacy that afflict men and women alike. IPV is initiated by both sexes in about equal proportions. Self-defence is rarely the motive for women's violence against men. Literally hundreds of peer-reviewed, community-based studies, including StatsCan's, confirm this. But they don't reach the public. (Under pressure from feminist organizations, for example, a Quebec health agency recently sequestered a commissioned psychosocial study showing men and women are equally culpable for IPV.)

    But most damaging is the suppressed fact that even bilateral IPV in general is a relative rarity in our culture. A woman is more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by her spouse. IPV simply isn't the systemic epidemic that hysteria-mongering feminist organizations so shamelessly project.

    Since 1980, the Quebec government has sanctioned the "fact" that 250,000-300,000 women over the age of 15 suffer IPV from their partners or husbands annually. Actually, about 14,000 Quebec women and 2,500 men annually report themselves victims of conjugal violence. Allegations deemed worthy of trial, however, are dramatically fewer in number.

    Recently, the Quebec government abruptly withdrew its wildly conjectural 300,000 figure from Google-accessible circulation, after a pertinacious group of independent researchers demanded to know its source through the Access to Information Act. There was no source, of course. Yet financial allocations remain pegged to the mythical 300,000 and are exclusively awarded to women's projects.

    This year, the Quebec Auditor-General's report focused an accusatory light on fiscal profligacy and lack of oversight in the women's abuse industry. Grants to abuse-related women's projects have soared from $30-million in 2002-2003 to $60-million in 2007-08. One six-bed shelter's grants in that period bounced from $58,832 to $406,817, even though the shelter only served nine women throughout 2006-07.

    Almost half a million dollars to house nine women? Yet a bamboozled public believes thousands upon thousands of battered women are seeking refuge.

    Reality just doesn't jibe with that picture. In 2004, the Yellow Brick House, an Aurora, Ont., shelter closed during a labour dispute. It emerged that of the eight women and three children residing there, only one woman was fleeing abuse. The others were homeless.

    Exceptions, believers will say. Everyone "knows" violence against women is epidemic.

    Really? Edmonton Police Service reports from 1999-2000 indicate the police responded to 3,000 domestic incidents. They referred exactly 24 women--less than 1% -- to shelters.

    That 1% figure recurs again and again. The co-ordinator of Cornwall Commmunity Hospital's Assault and Sexual Abuse Program in Cornwall, Ont., claims that "17-30% of all women treated in hospital emergency departments are victims of domestic violence." Reality check: Her own hospital's screening for abuse of 157,000 in-patients turned up only 150 IPV-related injuries (both sexes).

    I'll conclude with the words of a former batterer, Linda Kinsella. When her unprovoked anger turned to rage, Kinsella used to scapegoat her disabled husband by tipping over his wheelchair and otherwise abusing him. Adding to his nightmare, the police (typically, stupidly) arrested him when called to the scene.

    Therapy for Linda saved their marriage. A repentant Kinsella asks: "If women are able to do all the good things that men can do in [the] professions ... then why [do] we, as a society, deny that women can do the bad too? It is my fondest hope that someday there will be true equality in our society and that domestic violence will be seen not as a gender issue but as a societal one that will end when we work together to stop it."

    Amen, brothers and sisters.

    bkay@videotron.ca

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    Fed on myths, preying on men
    Barbara Kay, National Post
    Published: Saturday, December 06, 2008

    http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=1039527
    November was Domestic Violence Awareness month. Truth in advertising suggests it should be Y-Chromosome Apartheid Month. Far from promoting "awareness" of a social problem or remedies for men and women with anger issues, the month is basically a radical feminist war dance around the Original Sin of maleness, cheered on by "progressive" media sympathizers.

    The annual verbal pogrom will find its apotheosis in to-day's 19th observance of the Montreal Massacre anniversary, our domestic violence industry's shrine to feminism's Big Lie of male unilateralism in domestic violence.

    It's awkward that the Dec. 6, 1989 massacre of 14 women at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal -- unlike ritual wartime massacres of men and boys, such as the 8,000-death horror of Srebrenica -- remains a freak one-off in the West, perpetrated by a lone sociopath, with neither prequel nor sequel to suggest a pattern. But emotion, not reason or facts, drives the Domestic Violence industry.

    The truth is that the more precisely identified phenomenon of "intimate partner violence" (IPV) in Western culture is gender neutral, an acting out of psychological problems around intimacy that afflict men and women alike. IPV is initiated by both sexes in about equal proportions. Self-defence is rarely the motive for women's violence against men. Literally hundreds of peer-reviewed, community-based studies, including StatsCan's, confirm this. But they don't reach the public. (Under pressure from feminist organizations, for example, a Quebec health agency recently sequestered a commissioned psychosocial study showing men and women are equally culpable for IPV.)

    But most damaging is the suppressed fact that even bilateral IPV in general is a relative rarity in our culture. A woman is more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by her spouse. IPV simply isn't the systemic epidemic that hysteria-mongering feminist organizations so shamelessly project.

    Since 1980, the Quebec government has sanctioned the "fact" that 250,000-300,000 women over the age of 15 suffer IPV from their partners or husbands annually. Actually, about 14,000 Quebec women and 2,500 men annually report themselves victims of conjugal violence. Allegations deemed worthy of trial, however, are dramatically fewer in number.

    Recently, the Quebec government abruptly withdrew its wildly conjectural 300,000 figure from Google-accessible circulation, after a pertinacious group of independent researchers demanded to know its source through the Access to Information Act. There was no source, of course. Yet financial allocations remain pegged to the mythical 300,000 and are exclusively awarded to women's projects.

    This year, the Quebec Auditor-General's report focused an accusatory light on fiscal profligacy and lack of oversight in the women's abuse industry. Grants to abuse-related women's projects have soared from $30-million in 2002-2003 to $60-million in 2007-08. One six-bed shelter's grants in that period bounced from $58,832 to $406,817, even though the shelter only served nine women throughout 2006-07.

    Almost half a million dollars to house nine women? Yet a bamboozled public believes thousands upon thousands of battered women are seeking refuge.

    Reality just doesn't jibe with that picture. In 2004, the Yellow Brick House, an Aurora, Ont., shelter closed during a labour dispute. It emerged that of the eight women and three children residing there, only one woman was fleeing abuse. The others were homeless.
    Exceptions, believers will say. Everyone "knows" violence against women is epidemic.

    Really? Edmonton Police Service reports from 1999-2000 indicate the police responded to 3,000 domestic incidents. They referred exactly 24 women--less than 1% -- to shelters.

    That 1% figure recurs again and again. The co-ordinator of Cornwall Commmunity Hospital's Assault and Sexual Abuse Program in Cornwall, Ont., claims that "17-30% of all women treated in hospital emergency departments are victims of domestic violence." Reality check: Her own hospital's screening for abuse of 157,000 in-patients turned up only 150 IPV-related injuries (both sexes).

    I'll conclude with the words of a former batterer, Linda Kinsella. When her unprovoked anger turned to rage, Kinsella used to scapegoat her disabled husband by tipping over his wheelchair and otherwise abusing him. Adding to his nightmare, the police (typically, stupidly) arrested him when called to the scene.

    Therapy for Linda saved their marriage. A repentant Kinsella asks: "If women are able to do all the good things that men can do in [the] professions ... then why [do] we, as a society, deny that women can do the bad too? It is my fondest hope that someday there will be true equality in our society and that domestic violence will be seen not as a gender issue but as a societal one that will end when we work together to stop it."

    Amen, brothers and sisters.

    bkay@videotron.ca

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    Re: Fed on myths, preying on men-Barbara Kay

    ya gotta love this woman!

    please send a letter of thanks for her hard work and honesty

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    Quote Quote from The article
    When her unprovoked anger turned to rage, Kinsella used to scapegoat her disabled husband by tipping over his wheelchair and otherwise abusing him. Adding to his nightmare, the police (typically, stupidly) arrested him when called to the scene.
    What?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    What?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What's the matter? Anyone would think you'd seen something you wouldn't expect.

    Of course the cops would arrest him - he's male, for God's sake!!! Who else do you think they'll arrest?
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    duh...lol

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    I had the strangest notion that tiny little pieces of information, such as, I don't know, the guy being in a wheelchair, might have affected the judgement of the Police, in situations such as these.

    But I guess there's virtually no limit as to how much feminism has overriden rational thought.

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    Women's Issues Minister responds
    National Post
    Published: Thursday, December 11, 2008
    http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=1059822

    Re: Fed On Myths, Preying On Men, Barbara Kay, Dec. 6.

    It's important to address Barbara Kay's assertions that were raised on such a significant and solemn occasion, the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. In response to her statement that "emotion, not reason or facts, drives the domestic violence industry," there are facts to support that domestic violence is not gender-neutral.

    According to Statistics Canada, women experience more severe forms of violence, more often, than men. Women are twice as likely as men to be injured as a result of spousal violence, six times more likely to seek medical attention and three times more likely to fear for their lives.

    And according to the Chief Coroner's Domestic Violence Death Review Committee, females were the victims in 95% of domestic violence fatality cases. That means women were victims in 19 of every 20 domestic violence deaths. That's not gender-neutral.
    Our response must, and does, recognize this reality. With our community partners, we support women and their children escaping violent situations.

    Each year, our government invests more than $208-million in services that support and protect women from violence, including our $87-million Domestic Violence Action Plan.

    Stopping domestic violence is everyone's business. And its existence is not to be trivialized and distorted.

    Deb Matthews, Minister Responsible for Women's Issues, Toronto.


    Barbara Kay responds
    http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=1059816

    "In Canada, in 2006, out of 605 murders, 78 were spousal homicides, a trifling figure in a country of 35 million people. The total for the women, 56, is six fewer than in 2005 and represents the fifth consecutive annual decline in numbers of women killed. But spousal homicides were up altogether in 2006, because more men were killed by women. Killings of male partners by women increased from 12 in 2005 to 21 in 2006".

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    <<"Each year, our government invests more than $208-million in services that support and protect women from violence, including our $87-million Domestic Violence Action Plan">>
    < deaths. That's not gender-neutral.
    Ontario Liberal MP and Minister of Women's issues

    In reference to this quote above many of you will have read the excellent and revealing column by Barbara Kay on Saturday past (see hereunder)
    A slander on Canadian men
    Barbara Kay, National Post
    Published: Wednesday, December 10, 2008
    http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=1054757

    I need not go into anything related to her column as you all know as well as I that Barbara Kay writes and records only the truth about the Fathers and Mens legal disaster under family law and how this domestic violence scam hits us all,destroys our standing in family court, determines custody rulings and virtually guarantees the kidnapping of our children and holding them up for blackmail Similarly I need not even comment on this disgraceful and deceitful letter (below) from the "Minister for Women's Issues" in London Ontario Liberal MPP 'Deb' Matthews. You need only read it (and Barbara Kay's response to see from where the wholesale lying comes and why. Just look at the money she boasts of receiving from the taxpayer-forwarded of course not only from the Provincial government but the Federal coffers as well (and not even counting the money taken in by private donations and charities.) I see in her response and almost hysterical attack in advance on those who would question the funding doled out annually from government coffers in order to perpetuate the lie and make more money in the process.

    Of course this Minister is going to 'crow' about the figures. She has to do that because she knows full well that her entire departments funding-and her substantial salary and pension-and that of all of her colleagues depends on it. As does the entire money-generating myth of massive majority Male on Female Violence. Its all about the money folks but them you have known or suspected same for a long while. Imagine if even half of this bloated radical feminist budget was available for Men's issues? Just imagine where we could go with that-especially since according the rights we are supposed to have we should be getting equal funding?

    Regrettably there are those among us in the FR movement who are actually sitting down and talking to this outrageous radical feminist in the vain hope she is actually going to do something about the injustice she is so busy here defending. I have been saddened by that for some time but if anything this open admission of bureaucratic funding fascism should be enough to cause them shame. There is no talking or negotiating to be done with these women's ministry/issues people. They are directly responsible for the Fathers and Childrens disaster and they must be held to account. I trust you will all express your opinion and hopefully your outrage about this blatant attack on Canadian Men and Fathers as well as on the truth. There is no need to be rude or abusive you need only state the truth as you know it and record your anger at this ministers outrageous behaviour and the intent of her ministry whose very foundation is based in lies and misinformation.

    I urge you to read the letter and then respond as earnestly and honestly as you can. Not only to Ms Matthews and her radical comrades but also to Barbara Kay with copies to the editors of the National Post. Perhaps you might even consider your response as a Letter to the Editor for publication (if you do remember to include your address and contact phone numbers) Whatever you do remember your response will be a counter to the lie being spread by an elected member of a provincial parliament. I suspect strongly that what you see here in Ontario is the same in all of your respective provinces. Time to speak up folks.Time to take a stand. Make your voices heard.
    JS

    Here are the email addresses and the contact info you need:

    MPP Deborah Matthews: dmatthews.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org
    (Phone: (519) 432-7339 Fax: (519) 432-0613)

    Letters to the Editor-National Post letters@nationalpost.com
    Journalist/Columnist Barbara Kay bkay@videotron.ca


    Notes: Deborah Matthews (http://www.premier.gov.on.ca/team/biography.asp?MPPID=15)
    She is also the Minister of Children and Youth Services http://www.gov.on.ca/children/english/ministry/minister/index.html
    and has a whole pile of other additions to her portfolio. Isn't that so convenient? I can just imagine her taxpayer funded salary. All i can think about is how she lives well on the public purse while you lose everything and are destroyed socially and physical in droves. No wonder she is being so vociferous in her response. Who wouldn't be? It should be every one of your missions to close down this ideology-based 'gravy train'.

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    sharpen your brains u guys and girls--write a letter or 2

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    females were the victims in 95% of domestic violence fatality cases. That means women were victims in 19 of every 20 domestic violence deaths. That's not gender-neutral.
    In 95% of custody cases the mother gets the children. That is not gender neutral either but she would not say that, would she. And it is a hell of a bigger figure than 56.

    I get sick and tired of feminists distorting figures, using large ones where it suits (95%) when the actual number is tiny, and being wrong and deceptive even then. The Minister is not only mendacious but a liar too.

    "In Canada, in 2006, out of 605 murders, 78 were spousal homicides, a trifling figure in a country of 35 million people. The total for the women, 56, is six fewer than in 2005 and represents the fifth consecutive annual decline in numbers of women killed. But spousal homicides were up altogether in 2006, because more men were killed by women. Killings of male partners by women increased from 12 in 2005 to 21 in 2006".
    56/78 is 72%, not 95%.

    Lie.

    Does the Minister quote percentages for the changes? Male murders up by 75%; female down by 10%. She wouldn't dare say that.

    56 in 35 million is a murder rate for female spouses of 0.00016%

    More people die in car accidents.

    I am glad to see that Barbara is getting support and the liar lice are coming out of the woodwork to get squashed.

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    Thanx Percy-i knew i could count on you

    To all the others--please write a letter showing support for Barbara Kay-this is an activists chance to let the minister of wimminz affairs know she has been caught with her pants down

    this is really an ACTIVIST ALERT!!!!!!

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    Let her know that her hatred has reached across the world

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    This is a highly subjective subject.
    What constitutes domestic violence?
    Does the restriction or acces to money constitute domestic violence?
    If the man holds the purse strings, women will complain of domestic violence. Just try asking a woman for money and see what happens.

    "Domestic violence from the point of view of women could be a refusal to give her a car lift to the shopping center"

    Just try to make her understand you are running short of time.

    Some claims are just too ridiculous to consider.

    NEVO


 

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