Thread: Experts Continue to Debunk DV Myths

The biggest myth about DV is that is always a bad thing!

The biggest myths are that women are the only real victims and men are always the primary aggressors.

The DV industry is based on the ridiculus assumption that folk in a relationship should never raise their voices, disagree, or get into an argument.

How dumb and control freaky!

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The biggest myths are that women are the only real victims and men are always the primary aggressors.

Yeah...sometimes women are the primary aggressors in some of these threads...

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One of the great myths about domestic violence (DV) is that it is a male problem, perpetrated by males, with males bearing primary responsibility to combat it. This view is often held by so-called "victim advocates," who consider women to be the primary victims not only in frequency but also in context. This is an ideological approach to domestic violence, and it is a poison, because it is infused with blame rather than a sense of responsibility to solve the problem.

In northern California -- San Francisco's Bay Area of all places -- an organization called FAVTEA is countering the ideological approach. They recognize that domestic violence is not a gender issue, but a human issue, requiring intervention by professionals who are not tainted by political dogma. The organization also recognizes that there is a growing body of research which illustrates that female perpetration of DV is far more common than conventional wisdom suggests, with reported male victimization approaching (and sometimes even exceeding) 50% in many published and peer-reviewed studies.

FAVTEA is putting on a series of seminars from December 19, 2008 until June 26, 2009. I encourage anyone who supports their efforts to donate to their partners, the CAFC, and I encourage all professionals and students in relevant professions to attend a seminar. Attendees may receive Continuing Education Credits (CEUs). A flier is available as a PDF, and is also displayed below.

Very interesting, JD. Thank you for the information, I'm going to check out their website.

Drex and Tera -- can't you two get a room? We're trying to be mature adults here. Would anyone like to offer some actual useful information here? Volunteer to help? Comment with a commitment to spread the word on your blog? Start a blog, if you don't have one? Discuss the actual issue in a thoughtful way? That would be nice...

Nice to see a post a bout a sane and rational domestic violence organisation, rather than one run by extremist feminists.

Might be a good idea to make a list of somewhere of genuinely non- discriminatory, non man hating domestic violence organisations.

For some off reason I cant read their stuff on their site other than the front page.

Are they another family wrecking organisation?

Their front page certainly seems to indicate that they dont like the family!

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For some off reason I cant read their stuff on their site other than the front page.

Are they another family wrecking organisation?

Their front page certainly seems to indicate that they dont like the family!

They do have a couple stereotypical clipart graphics on their home page, and a misleading quote from Murray Straus which could be incorrectly interpreted as though the family promotes violence. If that were true, the parts of the country where broken families are most prevalent would be the most peaceful places there are. We all know that's not the case.

Anyway, they're not a family wrecking organization, if that's what you were sincerely wondering. I've heard the directors speak in person, and their rhetoric is anything but hostile to the family. They're actually concerned about family violence and are trying to do something about it.

The organization also recognizes that there is a growing body of research which illustrates that female perpetration of DV is far more common than conventional wisdom suggests, with reported male victimization approaching (and sometimes even exceeding) 50% in many published and peer-reviewed studies.

Why was Erin Pizzy gagged by "mainstream" womans rights narratives when she
clearly demonstrated this phenomena(look it up) several years ago?

Oh goody, Three cheers for the re-discovery team, now that there's money to be made
in discussing these "revolutionary findings" off campus in Berkeley.

Is Joe Biden expected to attend?
Is Susan Estrich expected to attend?
Will Mandy, and Dr. Schwyzer be attending this revelation by "academics", and actual practitioners of "humanities"?
Remember, it actually requires a personal investment (albeit "professionally" deductable) of some sort.

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there's money to be made in discussing these "revolutionary findings" off campus in Berkeley.

What money? What are you talking about?

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Is Joe Biden expected to attend?
Is Susan Estrich expected to attend?
Will Mandy, and Dr. Schwyzer be attending this revelation by "academics", and actual practitioners of "humanities"?

No, they wouldn't bother attending, because these seminars directly refute what each of those ideologues believe in.

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Remember, it actually requires a personal investment (albeit "professionally" deductable) of some sort.

The investment that these people are making by attending is defined accepting a risk to their professional credibility, since the thrust of the seminars is so non-PC. And if you want to talk about the financial angle, remember that a hit to your career tends to result in a hit to your pocketbook.

I'm sorry, maybe I didn't catch it... Did you have an actual point to make, or are you just assuming that anyone in academia is automatically a feminist ideologue? If so, I would disagree. Several academics have been shunned because of their research (revealing female DV perpetration and male DV victimization), some have had their careers sidelined, some have been threatened with violence, some have had their children threatened with violence, and some have received death threats.

"Money to be made..." By whom?

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They do have a couple stereotypical clipart graphics on their home page, and a misleading quote from Murray Straus which could be incorrectly interpreted as though the family promotes violence. If that were true, the parts of the country where broken families are most prevalent would be the most peaceful places there are. We all know that's not the case.

Anyway, they're not a family wrecking organization, if that's what you were sincerely wondering. I've heard the directors speak in person, and their rhetoric is anything but hostile to the family. They're actually concerned about family violence and are trying to do something about it.

I know a lot about family violence, and have to say most of it comes from those state agents who use it under guise of "help" in order to break up families and feminise them into matriarchal structures.

To effectively deal with "violence" in the family folk involved have to work with the family properly, not just go in and chuck folk in jail etc..

I cant access their site, must be my shitty browser or something, but if you have met the folk i am sure your reccommendation is good john. well done.

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I'm sorry, maybe I didn't catch it... Did you have an actual point to make, or are you just assuming that anyone in academia is automatically a feminist ideologue? If so, I would disagree. Several academics have been shunned because of their research (revealing female DV perpetration and male DV victimization), some have had their careers sidelined, some have been threatened with violence, some have had their children threatened with violence, and some have received death threats.

"Money to be made..." By whom?

The paradox of the DV industry as run by the state feminazi's is that they use threat of greater violence to (hopefully) deal with the minor "violence" that they indentify as being worthy of jail and beatings by the state thugs.

Its a sobering thought to consider that most humans are controllable by threats and violence if all else fails..

All folk who wish to combat violence must themselves totally renounce it in order to have moral credibility.

The definition of domestic violence by fembots has come back to bite them as the social engineers, finally, but mistakenly, asked men the SAME questions. Based on their defintion, almost every married person has experienced DV! Blowback is a biotch!