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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    Julie,

    What are you doing in NZ, any IMD plans?

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

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    Tyrael,

    Thanks for your previous post. To be honest Im speechless when people take something like IMD, which has taken years to build and get some consensus about, as an event they can just veto or change the date. IMD will get along fine without these loners, and they will be left in that proverbial "cold" in more ways than one.

    As you say anything constructive is welcome. On that note I have to thank you for the practical suggestion about involving sports clubs, an excellent idea. I'm involved in a football team and a kayaking club, and will do as you suggest and recommend some kind of lunch or other observation.

    Cheers,

    Passerby
    The event would have more chance of success if it was on an INTERNATIONALLY mutually agreable date. Common sense?

    Isolationist attitudes, rife in the MRM, characterised by "if you dont like it, off you fuck.." are what holds back unity and co-operation.

    There is no recognised IMD, if there is, why does noone seem to know about it?

    Whatever, hope you will have luck finding folk who can do water sports in freezing winter water!!

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    Many countries around the world agreed to November 19. Malta, Trinidad and Tobago, Singapore, Australia, India, United Kingdom, Jamaica.......

    So what are you talking about? If you are suggesting a new day, then its new news.

    More to the point, nobody runs IMD and it can't be stopped even if you wanted to (just to repeat myself) so its up to individuals and MRM's to get on board or create an alternative. By all means go ahead and get a consensus on a new date if you wish, there's nothing stopping you.

    Later (much)

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

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    Many countries around the world agreed to November 19. Malta, Trinidad and Tobago, Singapore, Australia, India, United Kingdom, Jamaica.......

    So what are you talking about? If you are suggesting a new day, then its new news.

    More to the point, nobody runs IMD and it can't be stopped even if you wanted to (just to repeat myself) so its up to individuals and MRM's to get on board or create an alternative. By all means go ahead and get a consensus on a new date if you wish, there's nothing stopping you.

    Later (much)

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    Malta, apparently, had its mens day on a different date (prior to changing to meet IMD).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men's_Day


    The history of this event is here.

    I have looked in my diary, oddly enough, it is not listed on the "notable dates" so is still something that is in its earliest developmental stages!

    Like many things to do with the MRM, one bloke decides to start an "international" thing and oddly expects the world to rally to it?

    I wish people would stop putting grandiose labels on little things, when folk realise the reality ( a few isolated folk having a chit-chat in a room in a handful of places ) is the sum extent of it it just looks dickish to suggest that things are big when they are not..

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    I have looked into the links, the speaker on the initial link spoke volumes, it is not what it seems, he mentioned that it has been celebrated on "7 different days".. Also, it has NOT be celebrated that much really!

    if "no one owns" the day why are folk creating websites and forums etc promoting themselves as it? And why is there SO LITTLE on there?

    There looks to be very little interest in this in reality.

    The smaller the mens movement gets, the more they seem to delude themselves!!

    International Fantasy is no replacement for work at the local level, more like escapism!

    Work harder and smarter and listen to good advice and you may make some progress on this matter!

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    I get the feeling you've been left out in the cold. Fire is on when you want to join in.

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

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    I get the feeling you've been left out in the cold. Fire is on when you want to join in.
    Grow up.

    You will get nowhere with that attitude.

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

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    Julie,

    What are you doing in NZ, any IMD plans?

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    Hi Passerby,

    I think I have already touched base with you or someone with you in Australia.

    Yes, I am doing something. I am supportive of the guys in New Zealand.

    ........

    I didn't realise it had taken some time for you to do this nor had I realised exactly what it is about until I read Tyrael's comment.
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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

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    The event would have more chance of success if it was on an INTERNATIONALLY mutually agreable date. Common sense?

    Isolationist attitudes, rife in the MRM, characterised by "if you dont like it, off you fuck.." are what holds back unity and co-operation.

    There is no recognised IMD, if there is, why does noone seem to know about it?

    Whatever, hope you will have luck finding folk who can do water sports in freezing winter water!!
    We have this in Romania too, but it's in May, I think. Anyway, more damaging than this non-unity on the date issue is non-unity in the ideas.

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    I'd like to see a source for the thing you think might happen in Romania. Always interested in learning more.

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

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    I'd like to see a source for the thing you think might happen in Romania. Always interested in learning more.

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    I wouldn't be able to find anything in English, but it wasn't taken really seriously. Here the media doesn't bash men and we don't have affirmative action for women so men aren't really butt hurt about it.

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    Thats ok. Non English will be fine, I have a translator. I have looked for events in Romania in the past using the Romanian language but found no International Men's Day. Often Fathers Day, Name-saint days, or war-rememberance days, or acknowledgement of a particular male cultural hero gets wrongly conflated with International Men's Day. There is also a Men's World Day in some countries neighbouring Romania which many confuse with IMD, but this is an awards ceremony (which I'm not even sure is still held after 2006).

    Looking forward to any info you provide,

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    We don't have a fathers day nor a mothers day.

    http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential...ori-legale.htm
    They raised 400 000 signatures for it. And I see that they want to make 8th march to be mothers day too and 5th of may fathers day.

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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    I am just writing this here because others might have the same question.

    How do you become a member of the IMD site?

    Also....

    Why does the IMD site have International Women's Day news on it?
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    Re: Activism alert: International Men's Day. November 19th

    There are a few IMD sites, so not sure which you are trying to join:



    I don't know about how one joins and other query about Women's Day, as i don't own any of the sites. Maybe there are instructions there?? Dunno

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    Last edited by Passerby; 17th-March-2009 at 01:05 PM.


 

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