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You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
I have heard many women talk about how they just want to feel safe. With a man that makes them feel safe, in a neighborhood that feels safe, in an employment and financial condition that feels like being safe, whatever.
What a luxury that would be. Personally I have never felt safe, not among people. All my life I have seen that the only thing that gets me a place in a group is to act and talk and think and dress like them so that they feel safe from me, but what has anyone ever done to make me feel safe?
Fuck-all, that's what.
I wasn't safe from teachers who lied to me and indoctrinated me and tried to abuse me sexually (kept myself safe on that one).
I wasn't safe from employers who defrauded the government to avoid making payroll tax payments while I created the means for their personal fortune as they prepared to be rid of me.
I wasn't safe from a police state that has grown organically throughout my half century of life, nor from the collaborators who can't resist buying every new digitoy that gives more and more access to individual data to the state and the advertisers.
I wasn't safe from a media that told me we have to destroy a country in order to save it and that people who disagreed were psychotic and treasonous.
I wasn't safe from women and their self-delusions of victimized superiority, nor having been properly feminized myself by the system, from the suspicions and treachery of people close to me when I began to see that men were on the losing side of their revolution.
I could go on (and on and on) but the point is, I don't have any sympathy or help to offer women for not feeling safe. If they didn't believe their own hysterical vanity and self-importance made them the center of the universe they'd see that there are few real threats to their interests, which are proceeding to take over the world with frightening efficiency.
On the verge of hitting the road and dropping out for good, I expect finally to feel a little more safe under a bridge than I ever did under a roof or in the company of whores and collaborators who have no values at all beyond their own bottom line.skype: techno.skept
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Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
Safety is an illusion. Women want to be safe from men: emotionally safe, financially safe, physically safe, spiritually safe. Feminism has pushed the concept that all men given a chance would rip the clothing off the nearest woman and rape her. The concept of safety sells merchandise and services. Women only floors at Hotels, Women only days at the YMCA, and much more.
Women want me to protect them as long as there is no social contract that requires reciprocation on the womans part. Women want safety at work and employment and of course it's men that are the predators that need to be monitored and controlled.
As long as there is money to be made off of demonizing men, it will continue and the cries for safer environments for women will continue.
Society does NOTHING to ensure the safety of men as we are considered to be a disposable gender with our only value being our utility to society and women. When that utility is gone, or the money is gone, men are discarded. When you look at the situation, there is no real safe harbor for men, there never has been, nor will there be until men wake up and realize that as individuals their worth need not be based on being a utility to society and women. Existence in it's own right for men is something that society and women hate because it forces them to consider men as just men, not sperm dispensing ATM's.
Women want safety in their lives, so do men.
The problem is that the issue of safety is played as a zero sum game when women are concerned. To make women have a safer existence, the amount of perceived safety and dignity is taken from men as men are always perceived as the aggressors out to destroy women's ability to be safe.Last edited by The Possible Human; 5th-August-2012 at 05:42 PM. Reason: subject verb agreement
- 5th-August-2012 #3
Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
I write from Italy,so my english is not so good,but,I totally agree with you,and every time I hear a woman,that want to feel safe,I am disapponted,and I want to say,what do you think?That only you want to be safe?
Do you think the rest of the world have some fun,to be in risk?
Do you think that exist only you?
This thing of safety,is a mask that they use when they select a partner,ONLY,for money,to hidden what it is,a form of prostitution.
This is the real truth.
Homewer I have no moral condemnation of this behaviour,the importance,is not be hypocritical.
- 5th-August-2012 #4
Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
Hello Gringo.
Your English is fine my friend. How did you find this site?
We already have a great contributing Italian member, Fabrizio Napoleoni, who probably has the funkiest hairstyle here.
I'd definitely like to see more Italians inputting here, and let us know what's going on in your country regarding the concerns of men.The wicked flee when none pursueth. Proverbs 28:1
'Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number - Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you - Ye are many - they are few.'
Percy Bysshe Shelley
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "
Thomas Jefferson
The internet has been a lifeboat for men's opposition to the floodings of feminism.
Celtic Druid
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Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
Safety is an obsession with Americans. I'm not quite sure why but I think Americans are the most insecure people on earth.
We were afraid of Saddam Hussein, for Christ's sake. We were even afraid of that punk bin Laden, a guy who lived in a cave and made cheap DVDs about hating us. We put thousands of our own young people's lives at risk and conducted two long, destructive and ultimately inconclusive wars just to eliminate the threat from two men.
Funny thing is, what made both of them a threat was that it was our own CIA that set them both up in the first place.
Now, official policy is not to arrest criminals like these but to "take them out", presumably so the CIA would be safe from the things they could have revealed in a courtroom.
There is this movie, or feature-length commercial, you tell me, called "Act of Valor". Wanna talk about something that scares the shit out of me? This is a story of a bunch of guys who take their orders from cell phones and go off with their destructive supertoys to wherever they're told, and "take out" whatever target they're told to.
What, exactly, stops the shadowy cult that pulls the strings here from ordering the SEALS to "take out" one of us, right in our beds or when we're walking the dog?
The scariest thing is, the more dangerous to our own interests our government acts, the more these deluded idiots here feel safe when all the murder and mayhem and espionage on our own people is wrapped up in the flag and called being "safe".
We were not safe when our own leaders ordered the 9/11 attacks. We were not safe when the official reaction was to start two wars for no good reason, and create a "Homeland Security Department" that right away was so busy spying on us they couldn't get on top of basic disaster response when the city of New Orleans needed all our help, and all they could manage was to send mercenaries to loot and terrorize innocent people.
In America you can fool yourself into feeling safe from your own government if you will swear on cue that two plus two equals five, that Ronald Reagan was an enlightened patriot, that answering to government for your every financial move is legal and necessary, that your children belong to the state, and that the CIA, the military and Homeland Security are on our side.
Otherwise it's just a matter of time and luck for every citizen before they make their move on you.
Whose safety, really, is the real objective here? Is having hundreds of cameras aimed at me, from outer space to the nearest ATM, somehow supposed to protect me? Or is it to protect someone who feels that any one of us might be a threat to their greedy, sinister interests?
Then, here's a really scary thought: the right-wing security state being run by radical feminists. That's the idea. It has nothing to do with politics or even women's rights. It is a merging, long in the making, of the rhetorical mantras of both patriotism and feminism, painted all over with the stars and stripes, into a state-mandated mindset having no connection with making anyone safe unless they salute the flag and think what they're told to think. Already these stupid wars have been repackaged as something to benefit women, like bombing hospitals and keeping the public utilities off for years makes women safer because we disapprove of how Islam structures marriage and protects women?Last edited by Rof L Mao Esq; 5th-August-2012 at 03:31 PM.
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- 5th-August-2012 #6
Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
I second that. Please register and join us Gringo.
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Phew!!!Then, here's a really scary thought: the right-wing security state being run by radical feminists. That's the idea. It has nothing to do with politics or even women's rights. It is a merging, long in the making, of the rhetorical mantras of both patriotism and feminism, painted all over with the stars and stripes, into a state-mandated mindset having no connection with making anyone safe unless they salute the flag and think what they're told to think. Already these stupid wars have been repackaged as something to benefit women, like bombing hospitals and keeping the public utilities off for years makes women safer because we disapprove of how Islam structures marriage and protects women?
When you say, "here's a really scary thought" - do you mean 'just imagine it' - or 'that's what we already have'?Last edited by Yan Yan; 5th-August-2012 at 05:49 PM. Reason: content auto merged
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Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
"When you say, "here's a really scary thought" - do you mean 'just imagine it' - or 'that's what we already have'?"
Somewhere in between, I think. The problem with liberals is when they get in power they think they have to act real tough and make all kinds of radical foreign policy moves so the next group of swing voters won't think they're soft on: drugs, crime, communism, terrorism, what have you.
This creates a power vacuum that feminism has made its bread and butter in national politics. I guarantee you little Hilary was down at the park forty years ago with her little candle and her little beads and singing, "all we are saying is give peace a chance." But put a creature like that in power, and hope she doesn't break a nail from keeping her finger poised on the panic button and push that bastard by accident...
Besides there is a whole new order of meanness in young American women that even has their elder co-gendrists shocked. Psychotic acts almost unheard of not so long ago are common now, and these younger women who never had to fight for anything except some other girl's boyfriend have been told all their lives that they are superior for being female, and that sex is an absolutely justifiable way to get whatever they want, and barring that, violence is just as good or better. Sooner or later GenX is going to ascend to the throne, and a woman from that generation with real power might make Margaret Thatcher look like the chairwoman of the garden club.
Of course they'll be using feminist rhetoric to get there. Of all the things you were taught to repeat as truth throughout your childhood, how many of them did you question, especially if they named you as the natural ruler of all you survey?skype: techno.skept
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Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
as men go they make their world a lot safer by not signing any sort of a contract with new age gals who use them for bum fodder
- 9th-August-2012 #9
Re: You want to feel safe? What is that, anyway?
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