Thread: Can I ever be the same again?

Quote from bowspearer

Yesterday I read the thread on male circumcision and I honestly feel like Neo after he threw up in the first Matrix movie.

Part of me wishes I never read what I read that i could go back to "blissful ignorance", but I know I can't.

I was circumcised as a baby. When I was a kid i asked why. Mum told me that it was to prevent infections in the foreskin.

I don't remember getting it done, but i can only imagine the pain from it that I've blocked out.

Yet here I am now, knowing that I'm a mutilated man- that which biologically makes me a man has been butchered. I will never know what sexual pleasure should be, nor will I ever experience sex as it should be.

I honestly don't even know how to process this. Usually I work from a place of trying to find a reason, a purpose- some way to turn negatives into positives, curses into blessings. On this one I'm stumped though- it was pointless and I honestly don't see what good could possibly come out of it, and I keep coming up empty.

I mean how the hell to I start to come to terms with this, much less be at peace about it?

I should add that I don't blame my parents. Their only crime was trusting the doctors who I was in the care of at the time. However I'm not sure how I feel about them. Right now I can't even muster anger against them.

I can never relate to what you have been through, and I hope my comment on the "Circumcism (Circumcision) Galore" thread didn't offend you, even though somehow I think it did. It is a shame that doctors perform these kinds of things on babies, because somehow it will help prevent infection. That is utter bullshit, and no one has the right to inflict harm on innocent people regardless of age, gender, race, or religion. Circumcisions would be banned if we were living in a better world, and more and more parents should speak out against this barbaric act.

Redpill, nothing anyone said in that thread offended me. As painful as it is to find out and come to the realisation of, I'd rather know the truth that be blinded by a lie. You and everyone sle in that thread did me a favour, as while this was something that I probably didn't want to hear, it was something I needed to. No apology necessary mate.

Circumcision is a barbarous act performed on male children at the behest of the medical community. Is the reason to prevent infection or to remove a flap of tissue women consider offensive?

I think too much can be made of circumcision.

By all means use it as a comparison to FGM but let us not get hysterical about it.

Yet here I am now, knowing that I'm a mutilated man- that which biologically makes me a man has been butchered. I will never know what sexual pleasure should be,nor will I ever experience sex as it should be.

No, you haven't been 'butchered' and sexual pleasure is varied a lot more by mood, the other partner's responses and by the skill of both than by not having a foreskin. So don't be overly upset or we might think you have caught a whinging bug from the feminists.

Yet here I am now, knowing that I'm a mutilated man- that which biologically makes me a man has been butchered. I will never know what sexual pleasure should be, nor will I ever experience sex as it should be.

Altered, yes, and deprived of some function, and that you must suffer any deprivation for no reason is a gross injustice, and a crime against your sovereignty over your own body, but nevertheless you can have sex. You can enjoy sex, and find pleasure in it. What biologically makes you a man is your brain, and the hormonal differences between the male body and the female and these have not been altered. Your essential maleness comes from within. You are a functional male still and capable of doing everything worth doing. There are ways to restore your foreskin if you're interested (non-surgical, and inexpensive) they will not replace everything, but will make a difference.

Don't let this hurt you more than it must, and try to channel what it does make you feel into preventing it from happening to others. First and foremost try to keep in mind that what you're missing you've never known. There are probably many good things in this world you'll never know (you'll probably never know what it's like to own a yacht with a helipad on it, and I'm sure that feeling is a pretty amazing one) but you don't mourn all of those things. You'll never know what it's like to be six inches taller. You'll never know what it's like to represent your country playing a sport. You'll never know what it's like to see the planet from space. All these things you don't worry about. To worry about them is wasteful when you could be improving the life you do have. Try to relegate this into one of those categories (unless you're going to go for restoration, but even then some differences will remain) but remember always why you will never know. Oppose those forces which brought this about; I'm sure you already do.

But don't feel bad if it takes you a while you calm down, and adopt a more positive outlook. It's a nasty thing, and a lot of emmotion is invested in this area. Patience might serve you well.

DO look into restoration though. Men speak well of it who have done it. Many men do not though even those who feel as you do - men often feel guilty about looking after themselves, and our society seems to think men should not value their bodies, or their sexuality. Do not let such misandric drivel effect your decision to do what thousands of men have to improve their lives emmotionally and physically.

If our society classes chopping off the extremities of one little-finger of girls at birth, would we call it barbaric or mutilation? Of course we would.

Could she still use her hand for it's intended purpose? Hey, it's only a nail-sized portion of her smallest finger - kinda useless, eh!

Same applies for the foreskin.

Taking it away based on prehistoric religious 'values' or cultural norms still makes the act barbaric and it is mutilation of what should be a full finger.