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    My life was saved by people in this forum.

    Someone chased me down via someone else via someone else. But it takes someone to know how to contact.

    The distinct LACK of connectivity is ironic. Here we are 'connected' at one central place, in anonymity, with little or no knowledge of who is actually who, where they are or how to speak to them, personally, off the net.

    IT HAS TO BE OVERCOME.

    I am really worried about Davyone. Yet no-one seems to know how to contact him, 'offline'.

    Why is that?

    Davy is a STAR in the MRM.

    I know of only one or two other MRAs that I can call and talk to. I can sit and chat with Cj, in person, over a coffee or a scotch when I shift my arse a couple of hundred kilometres, and on the phone, or mobile or skype at the drop of a fart. I know his address. We are mates. he's on the same island.

    I know Karl's details. I can talk to him and he me as frequently as we choose. He is half-way around the world.

    But others?

    I don't know how to contact them if anything 'goes wrong'.

    We must DO SOMETHING about that.

    Suggestions??????????
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    Hmm, well, the reason you feel comfortable with those guys and they you is because you're mates, correct?

    I suppose, there are some activities we could do as a group in order to encourage that feeling of comradeship. Just have to find them.
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    Re: AM Member Connections

    I quite agree Percy, as the issue with Daveyone appears to bring that into the fore. It would be a matter of making personal information available somehow without the possibility of our enemies accessing that, who would stop at nothing in order to make us disappear. I think that assumption is correct. The only other alternative would for everyone to supply the information direct to admin to be kept offline and referenced when required or maybe a precondition for every member to be available on Skype, could be another answer. That's about all I can think of at the moment..

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    Re: AM Member Connections

    It's difficult, while many members are passionate about their right to not be unduly imposed upon (including myself), it sometimes has to be balanced against scenarios where members are calling out for help.

    Similar to what Christian suggested, we could have an opt-in facility among members where we give a landline/mobile/skype connection and the details are held by admin. And hey, it need not only be for emergencies, it can can be used for those wishing to communicate generally etc.
    Last edited by Celtic Druid; 4th-March-2012 at 08:10 AM.
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    Re: AM Member Connections

    Quote Quote from Celtic Druid View Post
    ...Similar to what Christian suggested, we could have an opt-in facility among members where we give a landline/mobile/skype connection and the details are held by admin. And hey, it need not only be for emergencies, it can can be used for those wishing to communicate generally etc.
    Exactly. I think members should certainly exchange emails and skype to begin with and as well feel more connected, add mobile and or landline numbers. We need to think how to do this.
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    Now, after reading Davyones somewhat ominous last blog entry, I had spent the last two days phoning a number of people in the FRM in the hope of trying to get his landline or address. It has not proved successful, although a number of people have yet to get back whilst my further calls to them just go on to message. So Iím not yet ready to conclude thereís nothing more I can do, but the chances of getting his address are looking slim.

    And thatís all that I need Ė THE ADDRESS. If heís feeling suicidal the chances are he wonít respond to any other form of communication except to palm you off. You physically have to get there! Or if theyíre out of geographic range, you have to get emergency services there because usually nothing short of knowing his location will do. I know this because the second to last person I pulled out of a suicidal commitment was stopped by me going over there and effectively playing Russian roulette with his suicidal mechanism. It may not be the recommended council culture way, and if you knew the details you would probably condemn me as mad, but heís still breathing today, because I did a mad thing.

    And the last person, well you only know too well Percy, after contacting a number of mutual friends I had to brow beat your Rumanian prodigy with a torrent of angry abuse before I got your address out of her and got those Ausy medics to get into your house. Emails, mobiles, Skype and all those other forms of contact are simply no good in a situation like this; Iíve seen enough suicidal fathers in the last decade to know this, and some didnít make it.

    What will become of Davyone, I do not know, frankly he may already be gone; or hopefully in a drunken stupor curled up in the corner of the room. But about the only thing that works in these situations is for someone to bash down his door and give him some other perspectives. I have meet him once but regretfully I didnít take his details, although heís somewhere in the south east of England, possibly Slough. If any of the people Iíve tried to contact comes back with the vital address, I will go there without calling through other media and offer him a room at my place knowing he was distressed about his home being repossessed. Take the treat of homelessness away and give him space to reflect.

    Whether heíll ever surface again, is now pretty much a matter of chance, but as far as the theme of this string is concerned, it need not be left to chance so often in the future. So this is where my rudeness comes back to the surface, because I donít like endless intellectual masturbation and naturally relate to the world in a more black and white way than non autistic people do.

    If you all want to debate about it, then Iíve got no time for that. This is what you do:

    I donít care what it will be called, but in the absence of a name, Iíll unoriginally call it lifeline.

    Lifeline is administered by Marx who as site owner gives a written promise that the addresses that make up its database are to strictly remain private. The only exception is to make contact in situations of suicidal possibility, and absolutely no other reason.

    The primary data is the address, without which lifeline is pointless.

    Other contact details are held, and only when they fail in circumstances of suicidal possibility, should the individuals abode be physically visited.

    Percy, you should apply your reputation on this forum to market the need for members to register with lifeline. You have ample poetical diplomacy for this and itís clearly not something that applies with my temperament. You donít like it when this sort of ominous shit happens, well you can give a fraction of the time you spent posting on the Ďa friend in need stringí, to avoid situations like this in future.

    One or two trusted longstanding members should have access to the lifeline data in case of Marxís unavailability, such as Percy or CD with written undertakings to stand by the strict privacy of the data.

    And thatís it. Marx and Percy Skype each other and sort it out with my address details to start off with. Iím not going to engage any intellectual masturbation over something thatís potentially straight forward, because itís simply a do or donít black and white thing.
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    Re: AM Member Connections

    My own searches have proven fruitless.
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    Re: AM Member Connections

    [QUOTE=Popadibs;286594]Hmm, well, the reason you feel comfortable with those guys and they you is because you're mates, correct?

    QUOTE]

    Not just that Pops. They have trusted me with their address and phone numbers and they have mine in turn. Yes, they are mates that I have known a long time (althogh I have not shaken hands with Karl as yet)

    I have a loose idea where a few other guys live (town, suburb) but little else.

    A 'central' place or person might do. Trust between this individual and that, especially if they are in the same region, could see real names and phone numbers exchanged too. Or even a 'tree' system could be devised.
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    Love the Sinner but not the Sin.
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    Go your Own Way, offer kindness but keep your sword drawn.





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    How would y'all feel about if we had certain movie days? We'd just had a time where we'd all join in to watch movies and such. What about gaming days? Book days (because knowledge is power)?
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    Lifeline is administered by Marx who as site owner gives a written promise that the addresses that make up its database are to strictly remain private. The only exception is to make contact in situations of suicidal possibility, and absolutely no other reason.


    I like this TFB. Take the UK alone, we must have members in just about every corner and any wishing to give their details to the database could be called upon to assist in an emergency within a reasonable distance of their location, in the big countries with time zones all over the place it's maybe more difficult but in the UK It's a real possibility.

    I'd be happy to give my details for the Midlands.

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    Re: AM Member Connections

    There you go Marx.

    I’ve Skyped Percy and asked him to get going on this with you and additionally given him my address to prime this database. Now you can have Nivek’s too and the idea hasn’t even been officially promoted yet.

    Is there any reason why it shouldn't be set up and actively promoted to all members?

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    I'll get on creating something for this purpose.
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    I'm all for this as well.
    After we lost my brother Mark a few years ago due to suicide, I just wanted to help out suicide help groups.
    Personal details no, but maybe a Skype thing would be cool.
    On the same side of the coin, look if anyone here is having insur-mountable problems that they can't fathom, get a hold of me here (via PM) or call me via Skype, if it is indeed that bad, we can work it out together.
    Nothing is worse than ending your life before it has run it's course.

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    I'm sorry about your brother. My family had a scare back in December.
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    Re: AM Member Connections

    May I say Poda, if he thought about another Robert if he thought about it Karl, Percy, Richard and a few others have enough information about me to reach me, I have been around for a couple of weeks, I have not always agreed with everyone, not everyone always agrees with me: no one at all has ever abused any personal information about me. 'Tis about Brotherhood, and Brothers we are indeed.
    as for this:
    Lifeline is administered by Marx who as site owner gives a written promise that the addresses that make up its database are to strictly remain private. The only exception is to make contact in situations of suicidal possibility, and absolutely no other reason.


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    I like perhaps the thought of a promise? I reflect that perhaps you would establish levels of trust over time perhaps, if I had just found this place I would be wary of disclosing personally identifiable information. I really think this discussion should be moved to a less frequented aspect (Mod Place or something) written documents suggest lots of stuff and assuming that transoceanic communications is not and has not been monitored may even be silly.
    Thank you to the K dude for offering to get going on such things.


 

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