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Rise of the Zeta Male

Before There Was Men’s Rights, There was Glam Metal

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I know it seems like a strange thing to say, but when you think about it there is some truth to it. Before the concept of zeta masculinity was around, deconstructing and challenging the idea of what men should do there were others doing it before us.

They wore lots of makeup, lace, and had long poofy 80s hair. Yup, glam metal bands were some of the first semi-organized MRAs.

Through the incredibly feminine clothing style, loud music and insane antics, they were the strange of the strange to normal society. Metal wasn’t what society was supposed to have as music, and the way the men in glam metal bands dressed wasn’t what headbangers expected their musicians to be like.

And if you weren’t ok with that? Well then that was your problem. Hanoi Rocks, Twisted Sister, and Sweet were way ahead of us. They challenged gender roles in the male dominated world of heavy metal, by doing every that metal bands weren’t supposed to do and kicking ass as they did it.

They punched the entire culture in the gut, and the culture loved them for it. They were different enough to get attention and criticism, but still similar enough to not be ostracized and not considered “real metal”. They were tough, they rocked and they pushed the boundaries of gender roles among fellow men.

They were the true pioneers of zeta masculinity and fighting against traditional masculinity.

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  1. BobV01's Avatar
    They were the true pioneers of zeta masculinity and fighting against traditional masculinity.
    Anti masculinity sounds like misandry. So sad there are feminists and manguinas who wish to define "traditional masculinity", to strip "traditional men" of their virtues. Traditional men I should think, can go to the office and crunch numbers only to go home after work and pour a concrete sidewalk and when they are through with that and after nurturing their children they might sit back with a volume of Shakespeare.
    There are sad shallow bloakes and shallower still harpies, unable to understand the depth and complexity of a "traditional man" paint them only as knuckle draggers, because the "traditional male" will not capitulate to their demands.
    Much like the never ending whines of the old ball and chain, there are those, who perhaps uncomfortable that others act not like them, have never ending whines of their own, "act like me, make me more comfortable." Not content to be accepted, nor to accept others who differ from them, harpies and their counter part manguinas, besmirch their brothers in pursuit of their own happiness.
    Attempting to paint others in their self same self image, there is a lack of perception. Not all men are Fathers, but all men have them.
    Heavy Metal as MRAs, i doubt that was their intention or true. The point of attack, in order to destroy patriarchy, are feminists denigrating Fathers, taking the children to raise as they would in an attempt to socialize them to accept matriarchy.
    The data is the data and it is that simple, savings diminished along with children's test scores while obesity and societal debt increased: children need their Fathers.
    When our effeminate Brothers attempt to denigrate their more masculine Brothers by painting them as inept in compassion or empathy, creativity or intuition trying to tell us tat knuckle draggers have no compassion, they do us all a disservice.
    Think of the Concrete Mason, who places wet concrete to sculpt into a shape: apparently a knuckle dragger as the Mason wrestles weighty mass into place, what then does he resemble as the edges are carefully formed into copes and curves or the flats are worked to perfection?
    We know androgyny is a failed social experiment, frilly clothes cost more than jeans and a tee shirt, which women and men both wear these days, yet should we applaud the frugal man who works to earn a living, and attempt to set aside a bit to pass to his son's, for their future (which is what patriarchy is - from fathers to sons), why then would we criticize the self same frugal man for avoiding the marketers peal to purchase unnecessary swag?
    The attempts here at AM seem aplenty to keep the front page visible with thoughts of queer, transgender, effeminism, deviance, mental disorder...if it is true that first impressions are loudest, and the evidence of Fathers criticalness is within AM, and if Fathers and Mothers, there are women dissatisfied with the new religion of feminism, come to AM, only to see cries of change to sexual deviance or amorality (which is simply feminism in disguise), how then would we present AM as a wholesome place, where parents might find means to end oppression of Fathers, Men and Children?
  2. Patrice Stanton's Avatar
    The author says, "They were the true pioneers of zeta masculinity and fighting against traditional masculinity."

    I agree with BobV01: this post seems oddly out of place on this website. I'm fairly certain those 'glam' bands with the hair-up-to-there & the lace & frills on collars/cuffs were never looked upon by young women as the new kind of men they were looking to 'settle down' with (being that I'm a women of that era).

    I'm pretty sure it was (simply) a pure-genius marketing ploy - not to mention likely a lot of fun for the exhibitionist/theatrical types that go into 'performing arts' - and it worked like a charm.

    But about "pushing the gender roles", zeta, you're forgetting all the 'feminized' men & fashions for men (say THAT fast, five times) over the centuries. Certain men have been 'pushing' for 100's, yeah 1000's, of years. [Fop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] Here, as I looked up the word "fop" on Wikipedia ("...a pejorative term for a foolish man over-concerned with his appearance and clothes in 17th century England..."), note that one of your referenced bands shows up at the bottom of the page!
  3. zetamale's Avatar
    Its not just women that need to see men as different, its men as well. Zeta masculinity has a lot less to do with who is going to be settling down, and media aspects have more to do with forcing people to think (which some aspects of glam metal did very well, which was my point) and changing the norm. It's not one group of people that needs to change their views, everyone needs to be conronted.

    Part of it is a marketing ploy, but glam also got people thinking, which was part of my point. Also, if we denounced everything in history that changed the world culturally that was initially a marketing ploy we would be at it for years. Just because profit was a motive, perhaps the initial motive does not mean there were secondary or unplanned consequences.

    Did not notice the band mentioned at the bottom of the page.

    Different fashion trends is also different than challenging the notions of masculinity. What makes glam stick out is that it was directed at men, and not women, and its "in your face" attitude that came with the almost entirely male dominated world of metal.