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If you go through men’s rights reddit you will find some articles from Jezebel magazine. Its strange that a feminist magazine seems to have some pro-male articles re-published and on there.. Ive talked about Jezebel once before, during the Jon Stewart scandal. I was rather offended when I saw the picture on the side of a man gagged up bent over in pain. Either they have changed it or it was part of an ad, whatever the reason may be its not there anymore.
Now we all know that there is a feminist bogging down of MR reddit. So we have to take this with a grain of salt. Perhaps it’s the feminists putting them up there (actually I don’t have much doubt in my mind most of the time it’s the feminists sharing) But they seem to have support of people who are regulars and a decent amount of upvotes, not so high they are loved by all, but not so low that its only feminists praising them. I spent about an hour backtracking reddit articles, looking for things people have posted from Jezebel. Ive kept track for a while, and heres what I have come up with.
See what ive come up with here...
Few phrases in the world make an MRAs want to rip our their spines and beat people to a bloody pulp with them. “Man Up” has to be one of them.
The term “Man Up” is used in often used in intense, stressful situations.
When there are things that you don’t want to do that can or cannot avoid being done and you have hesitance you are told to man up.
When you aren’t sure about something you are told to man up.
When you have emotional problems and want to cry, want to express your feelings or show any sign of weakness you are told to man up.
When you are falling behind and struggling you are told to man up. more here
Seems like a “well duh” sort of statement but sadly its not. Every so often you see or hear something like “only men can stop rape” or “men against rape” it ignores female responsibility as both the people who rape and takes responsibility off them to be careful, you are vulnerable when you drink, don’t drink too much, etc.
You would think that its only a few small groups of people involved in this but nope it’s a bit more extreme than that. We have all seen the “all sex is rape” quotes from some of the stronger, more extreme (and also leading) feminists. There is even a guide for men on how not to rape (specifying footballers even furthers the stereotyping…) Clearly there is something there. more here...
We have all seen the manhood101 people pop up from time to time and make their trolling posts talking about how the modern man is a mangina, and railing against all sorts of different groups and different people. They were a key player in pansygate earlier this year. So how many of you bothered to read the book? Probably not a lot, they haven’t done a good job selling the product from a PR standpoint. I had an afternoon break and started to read it. And now you don’t have to waste your time, sadly I will never get mine back.
(at this point I can hear keyboards typing “faggot” and leaving posts on my blog and I will be inserted into their list of enemies. I am fine with that-just remember every time you click on my page you increase my traffic :P)
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Abortion is a tough topic to talk about. There really are no easy answers, when is it close enough to being a human to qualify as murder? Is it ethical to use stem cells afterwards? And so on.
Here is one thing I am positive of. If we make abortion illegal altogether, they will be done underground. There will be more negative health effects for women, and more damage will be done to adults. The only people who will be able to do it safely are those that are wealthy, and those are the ones who can afford contraception (with health insurance skyrocketing, the pill will probably be dropped from coverage) So its not just women who will suffer, its women in the lower socio-economic classes that will suffer the most. I am not going to call it a war on the lower/working class but it will hit them significantly larger.
Of course this is nothing new, things normally hit the lower classes harder due to a lack of resources, and when things are illegal people do them more often and in more dangerous ways (I think this may not happen more often but it will definitely be more dangerous).
But these hurt men as well. see how here...
Ok time for a quick sociology lesson. When dealing with macro sociology there are two major theories conflict and functionalist. Conflict theory generally divides people into two or more groups and has them pitted against each other for power. This is the essential build of society. Normally its two groups as Karl Marx (possibly the best known conflict theorist) divided society into the haves and the have nots. Functionalism looks at society like a body. Each group represents an organ/bone/tissue/etc. and they all work together (and sometimes against each other or the body itself) to make up society.
So why am I ranting about this? What does this have to do with feminism? Well obviously both MRAs and Feminists tend to like conflict theory. (MRAs tend to flip back and forth there is nothing wrong with that in itself but I still dislike conflict theory) Feminists versus Men/“The Patriarchy”; MRAs vs Feminists and so on. Its not that uncommon to see and its not a hard concept to grasp. (in case you haven’t figured it out yet I am a fan of functionalism) That’s not to say that the people who apply it are stupid, or that it doesn’t need complex thought. But it breaks down society in an inefficient manner often ending in seeing the world in a manner of “Us verses Them”
Theories like this are how we make sexism and racism easy to justify. more here...
Today we are going to play the “what if” game, and deal with a troubling hypothetical question.
Normally feminism isn’t our friend-id say it never is but then we get to a social dilemma. What happens when feminists are genuinely fighting for something we want?
I am going to use an example from something that came up recently in a discussion on AM. Post-divorce parenting and joint custody. Men genuinely want to see their kids more often then they do. Then there are the ultra radical feminists who find children a hindrance to a woman’s freedom so they want the father to spend more time with the kid when it comes to joint custody.
Another example is false rape accusations Women might protest because it increases skepticism of actual rapes (which it does) rather than the bigger issue: it destroys mens lives.
A feminist recently said she was concerned about men’s portrayal in the media, not just because she has men in her life but also because it would help women.
An article recently came up claiming that redefining masculinity is the only way to prevent rape. Taking a noble cause that I am concerned with and spitting all over it, but still in an attempt to change things
Clearly we could end up fighting for things for rather different reasons. In fact a lot of things we are fighting for, they will fight for. But only for their own personal gain. more here
Lets look at some of the ways “The Patriarchy” screws over women, and compare it to what it does to men
When setting out a life plan/Modern daily life:
Women are: Forced to choose career or family and strained to balance things out
Men are: forced to go into the career aspect, given no choice
Women are: Fighting the right to have an abortion (which is a huge problem)
Men are: basically put into the hands of women to determine what happens regarding future kin, with the exception of abstinence or vasectomy.
Women are: Insulted and degraded by being protected (chivalry)
Men are: given the burden of protecting the women, jeopardizing their lives
When picking a job:
Women are: Seen as champions if they are in male dominated fields
Men are: seen as creepy if they are in a female dominated field more here...
Feminism has become a disgusting, anti-male, sexist discriminatory monster. Its policies are counterproductive and bring nothing but trouble. It makes perfect sense that its an enemy of men and a major part of men’s rights.
However in the destructive process it has done a few things which I will give it credit for
-giving women the right to vote
-helping women get into the workplace/giving them the choice to stay at home or work (how they portray the two is a totally different story)
However the cost often was not worth it (in some ways) it portrayed men as evil oppressors and the massive amounts of violence in the UK for the right to vote and the concept of “who needs a man” moved to “who needs a father” diminishing the value of the father in society. Anti DV laws portrayed men negatively as abusers and helped with the whole PC-movement. The list goes on and on of things that feminism has done that have either had a negative effect on men as a backlash or was intentional (depending on who you want to listen to)
The internal criticism is here
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